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maxx25

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With two of best movies ever made (STAR WARS, INDIANA JONES) they can only come up with a stunt show and Star Tours. What a waste, you can do so much more with these movies.
 
Actually there's a really cool Indiana Jones ride in DL, might be California Adventures. It's kind of like DINOSAUR in AK...
 
maxx25 said:
With two of best movies ever made (STAR WARS, INDIANA JONES) they can only come up with a stunt show and Star Tours. What a waste, you can do so much more with these movies.
"Only?" First off, "two of the best movies ever made" is a stretch, atlhough I will give you that they're probably two of the best action films ever made. Secondly, what do you think would have been better? Think about the time in which they were developed and built (pre-TOT, pre-R&RC, pre-Spiderman at Universal, pre-Mummy, etc). Put yourself into the Studio Attractions and Entertainment planning teams and give us a better idea. Don't just say "it's a waste" -- tell us what you think would be better.

:earsboy:
 

First....Star Wars...(How about a indoor roller cooster that simulates the bike sceens in Return of the Jedi) Indiana Jones ( How about a indoor ride that simulates the Temple of Doom....the mining cart sceen.) Is that to much to ask for, go ride the Mummy and you will see how its done the right way.
 
I like how both came out.Sure, star tours is a little too short, but any star wars fan would appreciate the fact that there is actually a ride.the IJ stunt show is great and I love it.
 
I'm not saying that the rides are no good, but just seem a bit dated. With todays technology.....you can come up with something better.
 
Remember, that when Dis/MGM studios was developed it was to be a working studio, not "just" a theme park. The stunt show was designed to demonstrate how stunts and effects are created for the movies...and when Star Tours was developed it was "state of the art" for simulator type rides.

Also, it goes without saying that Disney parks are more "Infotainment" oriented than "thrill ride" oriented. Not all ages and family members can enjoy "coaster" or "thrill" type attractions. Disney and Universal have different target audiences.
 
Yes, but you can have both........Thrill rides and family rides in the same park.....
 
QuickGold said:
Patience is a virtue ;)

hmmm....that's a very intriguing comment. My curiosity flag has just been raised! :magnify:
 
Yes, but you can have both........Thrill rides and family rides in the same park.....



And they do. Disney has Tower of Terror and RnR for thrill rides. Few, if any parks, have more than one attraction with the same theme.
 
it is rumored that star tours will be revamped as soon as george lucas finishes the next movie.
 
Patience is a virtue?????Some of the Disney rides are 20 yrs old.....I think its time..do you think.....new rides please.....
 
maxx25 said:
First....Star Wars...(How about a indoor roller cooster that simulates the bike sceens in Return of the Jedi) Indiana Jones ( How about a indoor ride that simulates the Temple of Doom....the mining cart sceen.) Is that to much to ask for, go ride the Mummy and you will see how its done the right way.
OK ... you need to re-read my note. When both Star Tours and the Indy stunt show were developed, the technology for the Mummy ride was years away. So to say that Mummy "did it the right way" isn't fair. If Mummy had come out in 1987, then yeah -- compare them. But Indy and Star Tours were late 1980s. Mummy was 2004. Big difference.

FYI ... a roller coaster based on the bike scenes from Jedi was proposed, but was deemed impractical from the standpoint of the video technology required. (Remember, the ride opened in 1987, which means it was being developed in the mid-80s. Big technological differences between then and now.) The simulator ride was a compromise that put film with technology in a way that could be done with the best "wow factor" of the time. And it was done at Lucas' urging. He wanted something that would put the guest "in the middle of the action." That's what he got.

As far as Indy goes, an indoor ride that simulated the Temple of Doom would have been too much like Star Tours and Body Wars and would have been nixed for being "just another dark ride." Not to mention that Indy was always looked at as a stunt show -- a way to show guests how the big stunts of the movie were done. That was where the fun was. MGM opened as a "working studio," remember -- a place where guests could see inside the movies and get a look at how things worked behind the cameras. Hence the backlot tour and the big water effects tank and Superstar TV and all of the other things that were there in the beginning. The park wasn't just about roller coasters and dark rides.

So ... as I said ... go back to the mid-1980s and think about the limitations that you have technically, and the fact that the park's backstory is to show the other side of the movies, not just plop a movie-based ride down. THEN tell me what would have been better. You're looking at it as though Disney was Six Flags or Cedar Point and was only interested in bigger, faster, higher and didn't care about theme or design. It's not. You have to think beyond that.

:earsboy:
 
i'd like to had by 2 cents of thought... personally i cant ride star tours, it makes me ill. secondly i like indiana jones, if they made it into a roller coaster there would be alot of people that couldnt ride it. my mother is one of them. and while i might ride a roller coaster type ride. i dont want to spend the whole day leaving my mom at the exit of the ride. i also dont like riding rides alone. so its good that disney keeps nice shows that everyone in the family including grandma can do. if disney removed every attraction that became slightly outdated then it would remind me of universal studios... and i know alot of people like universal but it seems that everytime i look at a guide book they have removed yet another classic attraction that i like. also splash mountain is outdated, it after all is based on a movie (song of south) which hasn't been released since 1986 and they dont seem to ever intend to ever release again in this country. they can keep indiana jones until i'm 100, i love the attraction and i doubt i'll ever be tired of it. although i think at some point it was longer and the last time i was there they didnt do the beginning but there was and extended ending that i remember seeing at one time but not in the last few years
 
maxx25 said:
Patience is a virtue?????Some of the Disney rides are 20 yrs old.....I think its time..do you think.....new rides please.....


I like the old rides some of the old rides are the best ones in the park. Disney World is not a "thrill" park. You want thrill rides go to Universal. I'll stick with "dated" Disney.
 
Both of these attractions are licensed by George Lucas, the world's most self-important micro-manager. That about sums it up, I should think.

(... And yes, even Eisner isn't this anal about his babies.)
 

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