Mexico is "Enraged" with the proposed U.S wall.

DawnCt1

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Tonight's local paper, but its an AP report, and you can find it anywhere.

"The Mexican government, angered by a a U.S. proposal to extend a wall along the border to keep out migrants, pledged Tuesday to block the plan and organize an international campaign against it. Facing a growing tide of antiimmigrant sentiment north of the boarder, the government has taken out ads urging Mexican workers to denounce rights violations in the United States". Fox's foreign secretary, Derbez, echoed his complaints; "Mexico is not going to bear, is not going to permit it and it will not allow a stupid thing like this wall".

Well you all get the picture. Mexico is unhappy. Frankly, I am astounded that they "AREN'T GOING TO PERMIT IT". Whose country is it anyway. They are doing nothing to stem the flow of illegals and there is no other reasonable response. That attitude makes me want to bring some bricks and start stacking!
Any opinions?
 
President Fox is over-stepping his bounds. Maybe instead of boycotting Aruba, we should all boycott Mexico as a vacation destination.
 
If the circumstances/roles/situations were reversed - say the "poor" Americans trying to get into "rich" Mexico - I wonder if Mexico would be building/extending a wall to keep the unwanted "poor" Americans out!?!?
 
Daxx said:
If the circumstances/roles/situations were reversed - say the "poor" Americans trying to get into "rich" Mexico - I wonder if Mexico would be building/extending a wall to keep the unwanted "poor" Americans out!?!?

I think it would be fair if they did. It's their country, we should have no say in any wall they want to build.
 

Daxx asks a good question IMO. Honestly, how would we react?

Also OT a bit, who's going to pay for this wall? The US government is already spending like a shopaholic during Black Friday so where will the funds come from. I hope that it's not from the bordering states.
 
WTH? HOW is he not going to allow it? This is still our land is it not? We can build 500 stinking walls if the people of the US agree to it. Who gives a rip if Mexico likes the decision or not?
 
Planogirl said:
Daxx asks a good question IMO. Honestly, how would we react?

Also OT a bit, who's going to pay for this wall? The US government is already spending like a shopaholic during Black Friday so where will the funds come from. I hope that it's not from the bordering states.


I would guess that the wall would pay for itself within a very short time given the social, medical and legal costs of illegal immigration. I would assume that it would be a federal project.
 
I think it's a GREAT idea!! I cannot think of a better way to keep the illegal immigrants out of this country. I think the expense of the wall would pay for itself within weeks!

Please don't flame me, but the illegal immigration issue is truly at a climax!! When the majority of my son's school is spanish speaking (79%), I cannot go anywhere without seeing signs in both spanish and english (spanish sometimes 1st!!) and no one speaking english, it drives me insane!!!

Why should I have to learn how to speak spanish??? I should not! LEGAL immigrants should be forced to speak english, just MHO.

The lawmakers in our state are actually trying to propose a bill to offer medicaid and federal aid to illegal immigrant WTH??????

Do you think we can help AMERICAN citizens first before illegals??

Just had to vent, it makes me want to scream!! Flame away :firefight
 
Planogirl said:
Daxx asks a good question IMO. Honestly, how would we react?

Also OT a bit, who's going to pay for this wall? The US government is already spending like a shopaholic during Black Friday so where will the funds come from. I hope that it's not from the bordering states.


This is one of the best things I have read all week!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: Great analogy!
 
disneymom3 said:
WTH? HOW is he not going to allow it? This is still our land is it not? We can build 500 stinking walls if the people of the US agree to it. Who gives a rip if Mexico likes the decision or not?


My thoughts exactly. Is he going to have a temper tantrum or run to Kofi Annan...or perhaps both.?
 
thelionqueen said:
Do you think we can help AMERICAN citizens first before illegals??

Just had to vent, it makes me want to scream!! Flame away :firefight


I just want the same rights that illegal aliens have!
 
DawnCt1 said:
Tonight's local paper, but its an AP report, and you can find it anywhere.

"The Mexican government, angered by a a U.S. proposal to extend a wall along the border to keep out migrants, pledged Tuesday to block the plan and organize an international campaign against it. Facing a growing tide of antiimmigrant sentiment north of the boarder, the government has taken out ads urging Mexican workers to denounce rights violations in the United States". Fox's foreign secretary, Derbez, echoed his complaints; "Mexico is not going to bear, is not going to permit it and it will not allow a stupid thing like this wall".

Well you all get the picture. Mexico is unhappy. Frankly, I am astounded that they "AREN'T GOING TO PERMIT IT". Whose country is it anyway. They are doing nothing to stem the flow of illegals and there is no other reasonable response. That attitude makes me want to bring some bricks and start stacking!
Any opinions?

Dawn,

Write this on the calendar. I agree with you :sunny:
 
DawnCt1 said:
My thoughts exactly. Is he going to have a temper tantrum or run to Kofi Annan...or perhaps both.?
I thought that President Bush was real intent on getting along with Mexico? I wouldn't think that he'd be in favor of this wall.
 
I count myself lucky that I live in a country surrounded entirely by water - the inmigration problem in America must be horrendous!



Rich::
 
makes me want to become a citizen of mexico and escape here so i can get everything free.
 
Planogirl said:
I thought that President Bush was real intent on getting along with Mexico? I wouldn't think that he'd be in favor of this wall.

Chertoff said that he was going to stop illegal immigration. I would guess that he isn't speaking off the cuff.
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051221/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/mexico_border_wall

MEXICO CITY - The Mexican government, angered by a U.S. proposal to extend a wall along the border to keep out migrants, pledged Tuesday to block the plan and organize an international campaign against it.


Facing a growing tide of anti-immigrant sentiment north of the border, the government has taken out ads urging Mexican workers to denounce rights violations in the United States. It also is hiring an American public relations firm to improve its image and counter growing U.S. concerns about immigration.

Mexican President Vicente Fox denounced the U.S. measures, passed by the House of Representatives Friday, as "shameful." His foreign secretary, Luis Ernesto Derbez, echoed his complaints on Tuesday.

"Mexico is not going to bear, it is not going to permit, and it will not allow a stupid thing like this wall," Derbez said.

"What has to be done is to raise a storm of criticism, as is already happening, against this," he said, promising to turn the international community against the plan.

At least 10 million Mexican citizens are believed to be living in the United States. U.S. authorities believe about half of them do not have papers.

In 2004, Mexican migrants north of the Rio Grande sent home more than $16 billion in remittances, according to Mexico's central bank, giving the nation its second biggest source of foreign currency after oil exports.

Some stretches of the U.S.-Mexico border are already marked by fences, but in some heavily trafficked sections walls have already been erected by the United States, often using 10-foot-high sections of military surplus steel. Those sections, which typically run several miles, can be found in southern Arizona and California.

It's hard to underestimate the ill-feeling the proposal has generated in Mexico, where editorial pages are dominated by cartoons of Uncle Sam putting up walls bearing anti-Mexican messages.

Many Mexicans, especially those who have spent time working in the U.S., feel the proposal is a slap in the face to those who work hard and contribute to the U.S. economy.

Fernando Robledo, 42, of the western state of Zacatecas, says the proposals could stem migration and disrupt families by breaking cross-border ties.

"When people heard this, it worried everybody, because this will affect everybody in some way, and their families," Robledo said. "They were incredulous. How could they do this, propose something like this?"

Robledo, whose son and mother are U.S. citizens, predicted the measure "would unleash conflict within the United States" as small businesses fail for lack of workers.

He said many Mexicans felt betrayed by the anti-immigrant sentiment.

"We learned to believe in the United States. We have a binational life," he said of Zacatecas, a state that has been sending migrants north for more than a century. "It isn't just a feeling of rejection. It's against what we see as part of our life, our culture, our territory."

The government is scrambling to fight on two fronts. On Monday, it announced it had hired Allyn & Company, a Dallas-based public relations company to help improve Mexico's image and stem the immigration backlash.

"If people in the U.S. and Canada had an accurate view of the success of democracy, political stability and economic prosperity in Mexico, it would improve their views on specific bilateral issues like immigration and border security," Rob Allyn, president of the PR firm, told The Associated Press Tuesday.

Jose Luis Soberanes, head of the government's National Human Rights Commission, suggested Mexico go further.

"I would expect more energetic reactions from our authorities," Soberanes told local media. "It's preferable to have a more demanding government, more confrontation with the United States."

Mexico has also said it is recruiting U.S. church, community and business groups to oppose the proposal.

And the government has stepped up its defense of migrants, airing a series of radio spots here aimed at migrants returning home for the holidays.

"Had a labor accident in the United States? You have rights ... Call," reads the ad, sponsored by Mexico's Foreign Relations Department, which has helped migrants bring compensation suits in the United States.

The sense of dread connected with the measures is hardly restricted to Mexico. Immigrant advocacy and aid groups in the United States are worried about provisions of the House bill that upgrade unlawful presence in the United States from a civil offense to a felony.

"It would have a horrific impact on immigrants right organizing and immigrant communities" in the United States, said Jennifer Allen of the Tucson, Ariz.-based Red de Accion Fronteriza.

The mistaken belief that the proposals are a done deal — they must still be submitted to the Senate — have caused "just complete fear and shock" among some activists and immigrants, Allen said.

The House bill, passed on a 239-182 vote, includes a proposal to build 700 miles of additional fence through parts of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. It would also enlist military and local law enforcement to help stop illegal entrants and require employers to verify the legal status of their workers.

Mexicans are outraged by the proposed measures, especially the extension of the border wall, which many liken to the Berlin Wall. Some are urging their government to fight it fiercely.

"Our president should oppose that wall and make them stop it, at all costs," said Martin Vazquez, 26, at the Mexico City airport as he returned from his job as a hotel worker in Las Vegas. "More than just insulting, it's terrible."

I'd like to know where the money will come from.

The House bill, passed on a 239-182 vote, includes a proposal to build 700 miles of additional fence through parts of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. It would also enlist military and local law enforcement to help stop illegal entrants and require employers to verify the legal status of their workers.
This ought to be interesting.
 
Mexicans said:
Mexicans are outraged by the proposed measures, especially the extension of the border wall, which many liken to the Berlin Wall. Some are urging their government to fight it fiercely.
hardly. They have no legal right to be here. we will let them in if they apply and wait like everyone else.
 


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