Meadow Snack Bar

[AURAVAD]

Does anyone know what kind of CS food do they have there?
I can't seem to find a menu anywhere.

Thanks.

 

[BigDaddyRog]

I think they may have a sandwich or two..but for the most part its like nachos and frozen pizza...it is by every sense of the term, "snack food"!

 

[bigdisneydaddy]

As I recall it was packaged sandwiches, popcorn, chips, salads and fruit cups, Nothing too elaborate.

 

[AURAVAD]

So is there really any CS at the Fort?

 

[BigDaddyRog]

um....sadly...not really. you may be able to use some CS points at the snack bar and at the gift store....but nothing worth going out of your way for.

 

[bigdisneydaddy]

You can get a few menu items "to go" from Trails end but nothing like typical counter service.

 

[BradyBz12]

And the last time we were on DDP (2007) none of the take out at TE counted for CS.

The very nice CM did give us the DDE (now TiW) discount though, and saved us 20%, so that's something at least.

From AllEars...

"Trail's to Go"
available from Noon to 2:00 P.M. daily
4:30 P.M. - 9:30 P.M. Sunday through Thursday
4:30 P.M. - 10:00 P.M. Friday and Saturday
No Delivery

16" Thin Crust Cheese Pizza $13.99
16" Thin Crust Cheese Pepperoni Pizza $14.99
$1 for each additional topping
Pepperoni, Onions, Sausage, Black Olives, Fresh Mushrooms, Green Bell Peppers, Extra Cheese

Chicken Wings - Served with Blue Cheese and Celery Sticks, and your choice of Buffalo, Honey BBQ, or Pineapple Teriyaki Sauce $7.49

Nacho Chips - with Beef Chili, Cheddar Cheese, Sour Cream, Jalapenos, and Salsa $7.99

Side Salad with your choice of dressing $2.59

The Lone Rider $6.99
Two pieces of our famous fried chicken, fries, cole slaw, and a biscuit
White Meat Only $8.99

Giddyup and Go - $19.99
10 pieces of chicken, fries, cole slaw and biscuits for 4
White Meat only $24.99

 

[LarryJ]

And the last time we were on DDP (2007) none of the take out at TE counted for CS.

The very nice CM did give us the DDE (now TiW) discount though, and saved us 20%, so that's something at least.

From AllEars...

That is correct TE take out accepts the DDE and you also don't pay a tip so it's truly a 20% savings. IIRC the buffet also takes the DDE, but they add the 18% tip so it's awash. We have used it now three times in two trips over the last year. $5 or so off the Getty Up and Go is more money to spend elsewhere.

Larry

 

[bigdisneydaddy]

That is correct TE take out accepts the DDE and you also don't pay a tip so it's truly a 20% savings. IIRC the buffet also takes the DDE, but they add the 18% tip so it's awash. We have used it now three times in two trips over the last year. $5 or so off the Getty Up and Go is more money to spend elsewhere.

Larry

Its hard to beat Trails end fried chicken.

 

[LarryJ]

Its hard to beat Trails end fried chicken.

Especially the left over cold chicken, a biscuit and some of them fries heated up in the oven the next day or two.

Larry

 

[We4mickey]

The meadows snack bar is only open during peak times of the year also.

 

[BradyBz12]

IIRC the buffet also takes the DDE, but they add the 18% tip so it's awash.

Yup - we did this last month too.

Count me in on the cold fried chicken. I also think the TE pizza is actually better cold the next day too.

 

[KeepSwimmingDory]

We have only eaten at Trail's End for breakfast (which we did enjoy) but I think you just convinced me to try the dinner buffet.

 

[Shan-man]

... IIRC the buffet also takes the DDE, but they add the 18% tip so it's awash.

Larry

LOL, Dude! It's only a wash if you intended to stiff your waiter!!! Surely that's not what you meant!

 

[LarryJ]

LOL, Dude! It's only a wash if you intended to stiff your waiter!!! Surely that's not what you meant!

Not at all, I was comparing the Buffet and the Take out savings difference when using the DDE. I won't get into the difference levels of tipping between CS, Buffet, and TS.

You might be interested to know that the automatic tip that is already in the stated cost of a meal like at Spriit of Aloha, CRT, and probably HDDR are less than that 18% that is automatically added on to the cost of the meal when using the DDE. Our net savings for the two of us where the bill before using the DDE was 119.98 (Spirit of Aloha) and 99.84 (CRT) and we received a refund (i.e. net savings) of 21.11 for Spirit and 13.50 for CRT. The full bill for each of those included the cost of the meal, the gratuity, and tax plus the cost of the photo and tax in the case of CRT. One reason the CRT was less is that part of the 49.84 cost is like $10 or so for that pic they take before you go in and you don't get 20% off that charge.

The net savings on a normal meal costing around $120 including tax (6%) where you get 20% off the cost of the food and are charged 18% gratuity of the cost of food results in around a $2 net savings.

Larry

 

[Shan-man]

The net savings on a normal meal costing around $120 including tax (6%) where you get 20% off the cost of the food and are charged 18% gratuity of the cost of food results in around a $2 net savings.

Larry

Maybe I'm missing something (and I'm honestly not trying to bust chops here), but:

with TiW a $120 total bill + 18% gratuity = $141.60 - 20% (28.32) = $113.28

vs.

sans TiW, a $120 total bill + typical 15% gratuity = $138.00

So, as I figure it, TiW makes for a $24.68 savings. Basically, whatever you would normally tip your waiter, that's your savings as I see it.

 

[LarryJ]

Maybe I'm missing something (and I'm honestly not trying to bust chops here), but:

with TiW a $120 total bill + 18% gratuity = $141.60 - 20% (28.32) = $113.28

vs.

sans TiW, a $120 total bill + typical 15% gratuity = $138.00

So, as I figure it, TiW makes for a $24.68 savings. Basically, whatever you would normally tip your waiter, that's your savings as I see it.

That's not how it's figured in your example but since you would tip anyway as you say you do start to save over what you would normally tip and in your example that would actually be $20.40 over no DDE and a straight 15% tip. You are actually still starting out in the hole since the DDE is not free ... see comments on that below.

In your example you have $120 food bill the 20% is taken off just the non discounted cost of the food not including any tax or gratuity. So in your example that's 120-24 (DDE discount)=96 and then the 18% is charged on the $120 amount (.18x120= $21.60) $96+21.60= 117.60 for a net savings by using the DDE of $4 and that's what I'm calling awash (real savings on the actual total food bill including the 18% tip). My $120 total that was used is for a cost including gratuity and 18% gratuity less 20% DDE. The actual food only cost would be 100$-$20 (DDE)+$18 (gratuity) =$118 for a net savings of $2 when you include the tip which you would normally do anyway.

You also have to include the sunk cost of $65 for the DDE so that's worth $360 at 18% and $433 at 15% of actual food costs before you start saving any money. If you're a real tightwad and only tips say 10% normally then you would have to spend over $720 before the DDE is actually saving you some normal out of pocket expenses. For us we typically eat out maybe 8 to 10 times for a total cost including tips of around $1000 so that's $870 food costs only and with a 15% tip would be equal to the $1000. The total cost with the DDE would be $870 (food) + $157 (18% DDE gratuity) - $174 (20% DDE discount) + $65 (DDE card) = $919 or $49 out of pocket expenses to tip 18% on $870 worth of actual food. This does actually save you $80 in out of pocket expenses w/o the DDE and tipping a straight 15%. and without the DDE you could only tip $49 on $870 worth of actual food costs for the same out of pocket costs which is only a paultry 6% average tip.

Depending on how much actual food you buy the DDE is cost effective once you spend around $400 worth on TS food. We especially like it since we get two long trips totally about 90 days use out of it and now I don't have to worry about tips/etc. and just pay what the final bill is.

Larry

 

[BradyBz12]

And if you do one big honkin' meal for 4 at CG complete with the bottle of wine the waiter recommended ($55!) you practically cover the cost of DDE/TiW in one shot!

Although honestly - great meal (sushi was KILLER), super wine (bought a bottle back home for $30) and the one big splurge on our last trip. And we did split the bill with my aunt and uncle, so didn't completely blow the budget.

We generally tip 20% unless service is sub-par (more if really stellar) so I always tossed an extra couple of dollars in on top of the 18% TiW auto-tip.

 

[Shan-man]

Larry. As best I can tell, you are still comparing using the TiW (DDE) to the cost of a meal where you leave no tip. If you do tip, to $4 difference becomes a $24 difference. And I understand that the initial cash outlay for the card has to be accounted for when considering your savings. But according to your apples-to-oranges comparison, you are saving just $3-4 per hundred you spend, so if you were to buy $1000 in meals you only recouped $30-40 of the $65. Why did you do that?

 

[LarryJ]

Larry. As best I can tell, you are still comparing using the TiW (DDE) to the cost of a meal where you leave no tip. If you do tip, to $4 difference becomes a $24 difference. And I understand that the initial cash outlay for the card has to be accounted for when considering your savings. But according to your apples-to-oranges comparison, you are saving just $3-4 per hundred you spend, so if you were to buy $1000 in meals you only recouped $30-40 of the $65. Why did you do that?

Because it costs me less minimum out of pocket costs that I absolutely have to pay (what I call "net savings") then even if I as you said stiffed the waiter w/o the DDE and it gives the waiter a full 18% tip. In your example on a $120 bill and stiffing the waiter would cost me at least $120 and the $117.60 using the DDE gives me a out of pocket savings (i.e. net savings) of $2.40 and throws in on top of that an 18% tip for the waiter. No way I can pay less than that $120 w/o the DDE and with the DDE I only pay 117.60 for what I call a net savings and those are awash basically.

I guess it's just two ways of looking at it and we seem to be on different plains on how we each look at this and to me the bill w/o the DDE ($120 in your example) is the minimum I have to pay and with the DDE on the same $120 I save $2.40 actual out of pocket costs on that $120 food bill so my "net savings" is that $2.40. Thus my net savings as I said is that $2.40 and I don't have to stiff the waiter so to speak.

Also, I'm not questioning paying for huge parties at places like CG and using the DDE, but it's just the two of us and we would have to eat like 6 to 8 meals between the TE buffet and say WCC skillet thingee just to pay for the cost of the DDE. TE buffet is around $20/person and the Skillet at WCC around $18/person so call that an average of $3 tip per meal per person at 15% and it takes around 10 meals for two just to pay for the DDE.

Larry