Max Occupancy in DVC Resorts

[rinkwide]

...Reminds me of my sister who stopped at a fast food restaurant on a trip and bought a drink...

You know, those DVC refillable mugs make the perfect gift.

Sorry, wrong hot-button topic.

 

[Sammie]

We read the contract. Bought points based on our needs as a family and what MS allows. Again, same few posters "chiming in" about the rules. By the way, we own a mini-van, an SUV and a sports car, based on our families needs not yours. Just to make you all happy, I will not post on this thread any longer(well at least not until someone needs help knowing what is allowed) and ignore the snide comments about cars and the like. Sorry to get you all in a huff.

Not in a huff, sorry if you are. I don't consider my remark about cars to be snide, just fact that most people buy to fit their needs. Obviously you did that in car purchases, but maybe not in your DVC purchase. Or we would not be having this discussion.

As to the same few posters chiming in about the Rules, you have the same few chiming in about stretching them.

 

[NJOYURLIFE]

DVC's agreement with II states specifically that the occupancy limits are a MAXIMUM. There are not sleep 6 1 BR as you know.

Yep, I know. That is why I found it so interesting. It was the only one there and is long gone now. There is just no place to put 6 people in those.

 

[Dean]

Yep, I know. That is why I found it so interesting. It was the only one there and is long gone now. There is just no place to put 6 people in those.

The exchange occupancy for DVC is 2/4/6/8 studio to 3 BR.

 

[DisFlan]

Back from the world. Back to DIS world!

-Tony

And how many people did you stuff in your studio? Hmm??

Didja have fun?! Whadja do? Wheredja go?


DisFlan

 

[jennypenny]

This thread always seems so silly to me. I know the contract says 4 in a one bedroom. And when we asked our guide about that before we signed, he said many members sleep 5 in a one bedroom and member services has no problem with that--they just won't provide any bedding. So we signed. And we stay 5 in a one bedroom. In the past one of our kids has been under 3 but not so now. We booked this summer's trip, told them we had three kids with us and their ages, and she said "no problem, they just won't give you extra linens."

Here's my point: If members are doing what they are told is ok by their guide and/or MS, then why do you have any issue with them? Your issue should be with DVC and getting THEM to enforce the occupancy rules.

I've never had anyone at disney tell me that I can't have 5 in a one bedroom (MS, guide, front desk staff, etc). Only here. I don't see why people get flamed for doing what disney says is "no problem."

Jenny

 

[greenban]

And how many people did you stuff in your studio? Hmm??

Didja have fun?! Whadja do? Wheredja go?


DisFlan

What an insult!

Studio? STUDIO? STUDIO?

Let me tell you something dearie, with our points the greenbans don't stay in no stinking studio!

Ohhhh, to answer the question, I stuffed 5 terminal missionaries in our studio last week!

Love Ya!

-Tony

 

[greenban]

This thread always seems so silly to me. I know the contract says 4 in a one bedroom. And when we asked our guide about that before we signed, he said many members sleep 5 in a one bedroom and member services has no problem with that--they just won't provide any bedding. So we signed. And we stay 5 in a one bedroom. In the past one of our kids has been under 3 but not so now. We booked this summer's trip, told them we had three kids with us and their ages, and she said "no problem, they just won't give you extra linens."

Here's my point: If members are doing what they are told is ok by their guide and/or MS, then why do you have any issue with them? Your issue should be with DVC and getting THEM to enforce the occupancy rules.

I've never had anyone at disney tell me that I can't have 5 in a one bedroom (MS, guide, front desk staff, etc). Only here. I don't see why people get flamed for doing what disney says is "no problem."

Jenny

Jenny,

I don't see anyone flamming anyone about 5 in a 1 bedroom.

Now 5 in a studio, that's a different horse entirely, as is 'sneaking' un-registered guests in any room to beat the occupancy limits.

I too was told by my guide 5 in a 1 bedroom, and have done it many times without a problem, and without sneaking # 5 in.

However, the rules can be inforced at anytime, and I believe the 'rule quoters' are just pointing that fact out. The DVC givith, and the DVC can taketh away, case in point, free annual passes!

CIAO,

-Tony

 

[bpmorley]

We read the contract. Bought points based on our needs as a family and what MS allows. Again, same few posters "chiming in" about the rules. By the way, we own a mini-van, an SUV and a sports car, based on our families needs not yours. Just to make you all happy, I will not post on this thread any longer(well at least not until someone needs help knowing what is allowed) and ignore the snide comments about cars and the like. Sorry to get you all in a huff.

I know you didn't get me in a huff. I don't care what people do. I had 5 in a studion once. And if the same circumstances come up again, I'll do it again. If MS says I can't, then so be it. I'll make other arrangements then.

 

[DrTomorrow]

Yes, I have broken the speed limit before. I know that it is against the law, but until the police stop me, I'll keep breaking the speed limit whenever I feel like it.


Yes, I have exceeded DVC Max Occupancy before. I know that it is violating the contract I signed, but until MS or DVC stop me, I'll keep exceeding DVC Max Occupancy whenever I feel like it.

 

[Dean]

Here's my point: If members are doing what they are told is ok by their guide and/or MS, then why do you have any issue with them? Your issue should be with DVC and getting THEM to enforce the occupancy rules.

A point I've made many times. The only issue is that what a guide says has ABSOLUTELY NO MEANING from a legal or contractual standpoint. Maybe we should all complain to the state office in Tallahassee that governs Timeshare.

 

[rinkwide]

Yes, I have exceeded DVC Max Occupancy before. I know that it is violating the contract I signed, but until MS or DVC stop me, I'll keep exceeding DVC Max Occupancy whenever I feel like it.

Easy there Doc or we're gonna' have to change your avatar to Veruca.

 

[greenban]

Yes, I have broken the speed limit before. I know that it is against the law, but until the police stop me, I'll keep breaking the speed limit whenever I feel like it.


Yes, I have exceeded DVC Max Occupancy before. I know that it is violating the contract I signed, but until MS or DVC stop me, I'll keep exceeding DVC Max Occupancy whenever I feel like it.

DrT!

Say it isn't so!

Please not et tu Tomorrowus Maximus, then fall greenban!

I hope your analogy does not extend to felonies......

I'll drive DUI until......

I'll keep working as an 'Enforcer' until.....

Alas, another giant falls......

The Pain, The Pain.....

-Tony

 

[DrTomorrow]

Sorry.

It is now officially okey-dokey to exceed Max Occupancy.

Move along, nothing to see here.

<taking my happy place pills now>

 

[Nanajo1]

Yes, I have broken the speed limit before. I know that it is against the law, but until the police stop me, I'll keep breaking the speed limit whenever I feel like it.


Yes, I have exceeded DVC Max Occupancy before. I know that it is violating the contract I signed, but until MS or DVC stop me, I'll keep exceeding DVC Max Occupancy whenever I feel like it.

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you....

 

[pplasky]

Not in a huff, sorry if you are. I don't consider my remark about cars to be snide, just fact that most people buy to fit their needs. Obviously you did that in car purchases, but maybe not in your DVC purchase. Or we would not be having this discussion.
.

That's the point. We DID buy points based on OUR needs. End of discussion.

 

[jackmac]

One point to consider with exceding the maximum occupancy is that it's to Disney's advantage to have as many guests at the resorts as possible. Each additional person is an additional admission, food purchaser and souvenier purchaser. Individually that may not add up to much, but collectively I'm sure it's a hugh profit for Disney. I read that when Disney was building Expedition Everest they did it because surveys showed that Animal Kingdom was a 1/2 day park. Most people would do Animal Kingdom on the day that they left Orlando. By investing $100 million in a ride they would turn Animal Kingdom into a full day park and hopefully have people spend an additional night at Disney. The average family of 4 (5?) would spend enough on that additional night to have the buyback be very short term for Expedition Everest. If having guests spend an extra night can return a $100 million investment for Disney, imaging what having an additional 1-2 people in each of their rooms for the length of the vacation would add to the bottom line.

One of the reasons that I bought into DVC was that Disney is a very good company that consistently provides value for the money spent. I'm sure that if additional wear and tear of their resorts were an issue then more time would be spent enforcing occupancy rules.

My feeling is that as long as MS allows the additional people in the room then we have very little to say. If this is a major issue then maybe someone should go to next years annual meeting and address this there. I'm sure that proxy's could be given to people that represent your view.

 

[DrTomorrow]

One point to consider with exceding the maximum occupancy is that it's to Disney's advantage to have as many guests at the resorts as possible. Each additional person is an additional admission, food purchaser and souvenier purchaser. [...]

Not necessarily, particularly when talking about DVC. Many DVCers purchase food offsite, either at grocery stores for self-prepared meals, or at off-site restaurants. In addition, just because there are more folks in a villa doesn't mean more admissions. Many DVCers have APs - more so now, due to the wonderful discount - and DVC owners are more likely to forego a day or two at the parks to relax, play golf and do non-Disney activities. Finally - and here I speak only for myself, but I suspect for others as well - after all of our DVC trips to WDW, I think that our souvenir spending is pretty much near zero, unless DW needs to replace a worn-out Tink T-shirt.

Also, from the logistics POV that others have mentioned, Disney plans for certain levels of occupancy when looking at parks hours, restaurant capacities, transportation levels, etc. If every villa was at (or over ) capacity (which jackmac suggests is Disney's goal, or at least a desired outcome), it could overwhelm the infrastructure, which would significantly degrade the experience of the guest - something that Disney definitely does NOT want.

 

[Rooster42]

We have already booked 3 studios at OKW because we have 12 people. Now a 13th wants to go and I'm not sure what to do about having the extra person. Any suggestions?

 

[Deb & Bill]

Unless one of the 13 is under the age of three when you arrive at OKW, you could have 13. But if all are over the age of three, you'll need one more studio. Studio has an occupancy of four plus one under the age of three.