Max Occupancy in DVC Resorts

[Dean]

If a tree falls in the woods... is it a rule? DVC made the rules and they can certainly enforce or not as they see fit. At this time, they are seeing fit to allow 5 in a 1-BR. Maybe tomorrow they will see things differently, but for now that's the way it is. No sense in letting it drive us crazy, eh?

It's not driving me crazy, can't speak for anyone else. As for making the rules, DVC made them then contracted with the members. While there is a mechanism to change the rules, it would have to go up for a vote to do so.

 

[Doctor P]

Furthermore, in real estate law and timeshare law, the POS is golden and binding and can be enforced, without recourse, at any time. Furthermore, this point is not only in the POS, it is emphasized in the Product Understanding Checklist. Again, I am not arguing about how the rule is CURRENTLY being enforced, but the legally binding rule is 4 in a studio or 1BR (actually with no provision for a child under 3), 8 in a 2BR, and 12 in a GV. This is fact, not opinion, and since many members of this board have offered the defense that they never signed a contract with Disney, never saw these rules, etc., it is important to keep stating the POS policies so that no one gets mislead or misunderstands in looking only at parts of this lengthy thread.

 

[jarestel]

Furthermore, in real estate law and timeshare law, the POS is golden and binding and can be enforced, without recourse, at any time. Furthermore, this point is not only in the POS, it is emphasized in the Product Understanding Checklist. Again, I am not arguing about how the rule is CURRENTLY being enforced, but the legally binding rule is 4 in a studio or 1BR (actually with no provision for a child under 3), 8 in a 2BR, and 12 in a GV. This is fact, not opinion, and since many members of this board have offered the defense that they never signed a contract with Disney, never saw these rules, etc., it is important to keep stating the POS policies so that no one gets mislead or misunderstands in looking only at parts of this lengthy thread.

Agreed, Dr P. Your interpretation of the occupancy rules are correct as far as I'm concerned, but ( and there's always a but ) DVC is the administrator of the timeshare program and at the moment they are choosing to deviate from the POS. Should they revert to the original language regarding occupancy tomorrow, I don't have a problem with that and will happily comply. But as long as they are currently allowing 5 in a 1-BR, that works for me sometimes, so I plan to take advantage of this when it benefits me to do so.

 

[Dean]

Agreed, Dr P. Your interpretation of the occupancy rules are correct as far as I'm concerned, but ( and there's always a but ) DVC is the administrator of the timeshare program and at the moment they are choosing to deviate from the POS. Should they revert to the original language regarding occupancy tomorrow, I don't have a problem with that and will happily comply. But as long as they are currently allowing 5 in a 1-BR, that works for me sometimes, so I plan to take advantage of this when it benefits me to do so.

As I've always said, anyone who should be upset about this, should be upset with DVC. Not the members, at least not in the context we are discussing it now. Of course anyone who blatantly ignores the rules as enforced by DVC (7 in a studio for example) would be in a different category.

 

[Beach_Bound9]

While I'm not one of those room occupancy fanatics constantly repeating the same aurguments (perhaps since thier own family is not 5)...

In my opinion, believing in following rules and obsessively posting the same aurguments time after time after time in this thread regarding what others have to do for thier family accomodations are not necessarily equivalent behaviors. However, for the information of the poster considering purchasing and the number of points they should get, let me identify to them that I am not in what I consider to be in the "room occupancy fanatic camp", I have a family of 5 (with children of the same gender) and support 5 in a one bedroom (and it appears that DVC also supports this position). However, given that identification of myself and my position on this issue, I still would recommend purchasing enough points for a two bedroom for the future for a family of 5, and have done so myself. Best wishes in your puchasing decision.

 

[Dean]

In my opinion, believing in following rules and obsessively posting the same aurguments time after time after time in this thread regarding what others have to do for thier family accomodations are not necessarily equivalent behaviors.

I would agree. One is expecting DVC to follow the contractual rules as written, the other is practicing situational ethics.

 

[weloveariel]

Are there any 1 br villas that allow 5 in a room??? - we have two adults and 3 children (6,9,12). It appears we will have to pay for a 2BR, but that really is unneccesary for our kids - they love to sleep on the floor. Is 4 the max in all the 1BR or studio villas?????

Also - we are planning on going to WDW in early July 2006 - after reading some posts, I am thinking I'd better get moving and get a place booked. What do experienced Disney travelers suggest for timing?????? Which Villas are most popular - I am considering the Beach Club.

Thank You

 

[DebbieB]

See this longggggggggggg thread:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=901569

Basically, member services will tell you it is allowed in a 1 bedroom but no extra bedding or linens are provided.

 

[weloveariel]

WWWWOOOOOWWWW Thanks! I guess I am ok with 5 in a 1BR. Great, that saves a lot of $$$$$$.

 

[patsal]

Are you an owner, renter of points or just making a reservation through CR? Through DVC MS you'll have no problem putting 5 in the room, but I'm not sure that is true with a reservation through CR.

 

[weloveariel]

I was planning on renting points, but this is all new to me. From what I can tell, going through CR costs more.

 

[Deb & Bill]

Just remember, you'll only get four bath towels, bedding and beds for four. You'll have to provide the extras yourself or pay for the extra towels.

We have three in our family and we've pretty much decided that we might go to two bedrooms from now on because it's just a bit crowded having our son in the living room. If we invite someone, we will for sure get a two bedroom.

We're on the fence between the one and two bedroom right now.

 

[Mary Ellen]

I am considering the Beach Club.

Don't you have to show a BCV room key for everyone in your party to get access to SAB? I don't think you get 5 keys for a max 4 room. Someone may be left out of the pool.

 

[NMW]

Don't you have to show a BCV room key for everyone in your party to get access to SAB? I don't think you get 5 keys for a max 4 room. Someone may be left out of the pool.

MS will put all five on the reservation, so 5 keys.

 

[andrealouise1]

We have neighbors traveling with us in Nov. and they have the opportunity to rent points for a BW Villa. The problem is that they have 3 children. The youngest is 4, but she's tiny. Is there any way that they can stay in a villa?

 

[NMW]

Two adults and 3 children can stay in a studio if one of the children in under 3. If the children are all over 3 years old, they would need to book a 1 bdr villa or a 2 bdr villa. Keep in mind that even though MS will book a family of 5 in a 1 bdr villa, only bedding for 4 is provided. They would need to bring an aerobed, sleeping bag, or have 1 of the children sleep in the king bed with them. I doubt all three kids would fit on the sleeper.

PS-this will probably get moved to the occupancy thread which is very, very long. Some people have strong feelings on this issue (kind of like the pool hopping/resuable mug thing).

 

[spiceycat]

there a studio pluses - that would work

the queen bed, double sleeper sofa and a day bed (not really - smaller than a love seat) - but if she is little it will work.

the problem - MS no longers allows member to request the plus studios.

So I have no idea how your friend could get one.

You can call MS and ask.

 

[CarolMN]

We have neighbors traveling with us in Nov. and they have the opportunity to rent points for a BW Villa. The problem is that they have 3 children. The youngest is 4, but she's tiny. Is there any way that they can stay in a villa?

No legal way. Neither Member Services nor CRO will accept a studio reservation for 5 unless one of the 5 is under 3. A portable Pac 'n Play is provided for the under 3 child to sleep in.

Best wishes -

 

[littlestar]

Member Services let us book the studio plus at BWV for five. They just said to bring extra bedding in case we didn't get it at check-in. The plus studios have a small daybed type bench (we had a 5-year-old sleep on it). It was a dedicated studio.

 

[DrTomorrow]

So, how many are allowed in a 1BR?

Thank you, Oh Keepers of the Occupancy Thread, for making sure that there was something that hadn't changed in the many months since I last posted!