Max Occupancy in DVC Resorts

[Dean]

The objective facts:

As per the contract, a 1 Br unit 'sleeps' four (plus a child under 3 in a crib).
MS has taken reservations for more than 4 people in a 1 Br.

What do those objective facts mean?

Who knows. I think it's a pretty good bet that you'll always be able to secure a reservation for 5 in a 1 Br. I have no idea if MS will take a reservation for 6.

Actually the legal paperwork says 4, period. The plus one other 3 was added by MS after the fact.

FYI...I was checking into what was available for New Years Eve as we (2 adults, 14dd, 11dd, and 4dd) are scheduled to check-in at OKW Jan. 1st with a 2BR villa. MS told me 1 BR's were available, she could make the reservation, but upon check-in we could be denied. Maybe 2BR's were not available for Dec. 31st, because she was talking about the 1BR and then the cash rate for a 2BR? What surprised me was that she said that we may not be allowed to check-in with 5 people. I never heard of that before.

It's been said before but I don't know of anyone who was not allowed to checkin. MS has at times not allowed a reservation to be made for over the stated allotment.

 

[CarolMN]

I am very seriously considering purchasing DVC (about 200 points at SSR) and the answer to this question won't affect my decision in any way, so don't worry about "scaring me off".

I hope it's o.k. to ask this . . . does Disney stick to their guns in regard to # of guests per room? We have a family of six, but our children are small. I honestly think we would be fine in a one bedroom villa. We wouldn't always want to do this, but for a short trip when we knew we wouldn't be spending much time in the room, I think this would be a good option. And it sure would save on points.

I'm sure I'm not the first person who has asked this (and some of you may have even done this). Please give any insight you have. Thanks!

One thing to carefully consider with 6 in a 1 bedroom (or even 5) is bedding & sleeping arrangements.

Al of the DVC 1 bedroom units have a King size bed in the bedroom and a queen sleep sofa in the living room. There is also a portable crib (Pac 'n Play brand) sutiable for an infant. DVC does not provide rollaways, cots or even extra bedding to accomodate more than the stated maximum - 4 persons plus an infant. You'd be on your own if you needed more than what is in the unit. Traveling with 4 small children is tough enough without having to bring along extra bedding - especiaily if you are flying.

Best wishes -

 

[DVCconvert]

There is no "maximum"...you can stack 'em like like firewood at any DVC resort or room!

 

[jlw9]

I recently made DVC reservations for 1 adult and 4 young children
(ages 8,6,4, & 3 ).
I was told that the studio was NOT an option, that 5 people mandated a one bedroom.
Florida law might be a factor.

 

[dianeschlicht]

I recently made DVC reservations for 1 adult and 4 young children
(ages 8,6,4, & 3 ).
I was told that the studio was NOT an option, that 5 people mandated a one bedroom.
Florida law might be a factor.

MS has recently been cracking down on not allowing 5 in a studio. I can understand why too. Studios (especially those with one bed and one pull out) are not at all appropriate fro 5 people, even when 4 of them are children.

 

[idratherbeinwdw]

Studios (especially those with one bed and one pull out) are not at all appropriate fro 5 people, even when 4 of them are children.

You state this as a fact, when in actuality it is an opinion. Most deluxe resorts, including the GF and the Poly allow 5 in a room. They have two Queen sized beds and a day bed. DVC studios are larger than those rooms.

Whether or not you or I would feel comfortable with 5 is just that--our feelings. To say it is a studio is "not appropriate" may apply to you, but not to everyone.

Whether it is allowed or not is one thing, but "appropriate" IMO, is frequently in the eye of the beholder.

 

[CarolMN]

You state this as a fact, when in actuality it is an opinion. Most deluxe resorts, including the GF and the Poly allow 5 in a room. They have two Queen sized beds and a day bed. DVC studios are larger than those rooms.

Whether or not you or I would feel comfortable with 5 is just that--our feelings. To say it is a studio is "not appropriate" may apply to you, but not to everyone.

Whether it is allowed or not is one thing, but "appropriate" IMO, is frequently in the eye of the beholder.

Respectfully, my opinion is the same as Diane's. The DVC studios may be larger than the deluxe rooms (not sure that is 100% true, either), but they do not have bedding/accomodations for 5. The only exception is the dedicated studio units at the BWVs - and those have a small hard daybed that is not even close to the twin-sized daybeds provided in the deluxe rooms that allow 5.

Best wishes -

 

[RichieGraciemom]

I am assuming that the rules for the studio are the same, two adults two children and they told me a child under three who will sleep in a pak and play. I have ressies for this and they took them and sent me a confirmation stating that.

 

[idratherbeinwdw]

I realize the rooms at DVC and Deluxe WDW resorts are not set up the same way CarolMN. My only point was that the size of the rooms is close enough to be comparable. You are certainly entitled to express your opinion.

Maybe it's just semantics, but my objection to the post by DianeSchlict was the way it was stated as a fact, not an opinion. Some families are more than happy to have 5 in a studio. I don't care how they work the sleeping arrangements, if they are OK with it, it's "appropriate" for them (unless MS won't allow it, which is another argument entirely, not one I am touching on here).

It was the word inappropriate that got under my skin. Not your cup of tea? Fine. Not something YOU find appropriate for your family, fine. But just plain "inappropriate" as a generalization for all families, there I disagree.

P.S. In case anyone is wondering my post is self-serving, I have never myself done 5 in a studio. I would find it too crowded for my personal tastes.

 

[dianeschlicht]

You state this as a fact, when in actuality it is an opinion. Most deluxe resorts, including the GF and the Poly allow 5 in a room. They have two Queen sized beds and a day bed. DVC studios are larger than those rooms.

Whether or not you or I would feel comfortable with 5 is just that--our feelings. To say it is a studio is "not appropriate" may apply to you, but not to everyone.

Whether it is allowed or not is one thing, but "appropriate" IMO, is frequently in the eye of the beholder.

Not an opinion but FACT if you call MS. If you are honest and try to make a reservation for 5 in a studio, they will tell you "NO". I realize this has been a rather recent development, but I specifically asked last time, because we thought we might be able to get by with 5 for one night (NYE, which happens to be a Saturday in prime season), and I was told in no uncertain terms that I MUST make it for a 1 or 2 bedroom instead. As it turned out, we made that one night for a 1 bedroom and are switching to a 2 bedroom the next day.

 

[dianeschlicht]

I am assuming that the rules for the studio are the same, two adults two children and they told me a child under three who will sleep in a pak and play. I have ressies for this and they took them and sent me a confirmation stating that.

That is the only type of ressie MS will accept for 5 in a studio. One must be under the age of 3.

 

[idratherbeinwdw]

Not an opinion but FACT if you call MS. If you are honest and try to make a reservation for 5 in a studio, they will tell you "NO". I realize this has been a rather recent development, but I specifically asked last time, because we thought we might be able to get by with 5 for one night (NYE, which happens to be a Saturday in prime season), and I was told in no uncertain terms that I MUST make it for a 1 or 2 bedroom instead. As it turned out, we made that one night for a 1 bedroom and are switching to a 2 bedroom the next day.

Yes, now we agree, in the post quoted above you are stating facts.

But I still say the "inappropriate" comment in the post I was responding to originally was not a fact but an opinion. I believe my response was clear--I wasn't arguing about what MS will or will not do.

 

[CharlesTD]

Well in May MS made our ressie with 5 in the room my DW and I and our 3 kids none of which sleep in the pack & Play my guess is that it is all in who you get onthe phone at MS. Now if they take a hardline stance on it that is fine and would be prefered moreso than the wishy washy some will some won't as far as I am concerned. I mean if I knew they were going to say no every time I would not even botehr asking but when you ask 5 different people and get 3 different answers who can blame people for running around the rules that do not get enforced.

 

[CapeCodFam]

This thread is, as always, very amusing! It really doesn't matter what any of us think is OK. Whatever MS allows you to do is the real authority. Disney, IMO, has a reputation for being extremely accomodating. Ie. We see lots of posts where members are successful in booking more in a room/DVC guides stating the same capability. Now, if MS won't book your ressie.... I hope members wouldn't lower themselves to sneaking in more.

 

[Deb & Bill]

You state this as a fact, when in actuality it is an opinion. Most deluxe resorts, including the GF and the Poly allow 5 in a room. They have two Queen sized beds and a day bed. DVC studios are larger than those rooms.

This is where your opinion is in error. Occupancy codes are not based on the amount of space in a room. It's based on the exit access of the total number of rooms in the building. They take the door widths, the number of doors, the width of the stairs, etc. into account to calculate the occupancy of a building.

Each DVC resort has a Public Offering Statement issued when the property goes on sale. Each DVC resort has a sleeping capacity noted within the POS for each type of lodging. That is where the 4, 4, 8, and 12 comes from.

 

[idratherbeinwdw]

This is where your opinion is in error. Occupancy codes are not based on the amount of space in a room. It's based on the exit access of the total number of rooms in the building. They take the door widths, the number of doors, the width of the stairs, etc. into account to calculate the occupancy of a building.

Each DVC resort has a Public Offering Statement issued when the property goes on sale. Each DVC resort has a sleeping capacity noted within the POS for each type of lodging. That is where the 4, 4, 8, and 12 comes from.

What are you talking about? I was not talking about occupancy codes. I was talking about a family having the right to say what is comfortable for them, and that we cannot dictate how others feel. It's clear MS says yes sometimes, and no others, so they are clearly not following any type of code with regularity.

I was merely saying that what is inappropriate to some is comfortable to others. But I seem to be misunderstood, and frankly this is not that big a deal to me, so I will say adios to this thread for now, not worth the aggravation trying to get my point across.

See ya on other threads, bye to this one for me.

 

[Dean]

This thread is, as always, very amusing! It really doesn't matter what any of us think is OK. Whatever MS allows you to do is the real authority. Disney, IMO, has a reputation for being extremely accomodating. Ie. We see lots of posts where members are successful in booking more in a room/DVC guides stating the same capability. Now, if MS won't book your ressie.... I hope members wouldn't lower themselves to sneaking in more.

In many ways I agree. As for sneaking in, unfortunately your faith is not well founded across the board.

 

[TNKBELL]

This is where your opinion is in error. Occupancy codes are not based on the amount of space in a room. It's based on the exit access of the total number of rooms in the building. They take the door widths, the number of doors, the width of the stairs, etc. into account to calculate the occupancy of a building.

Each DVC resort has a Public Offering Statement issued when the property goes on sale. Each DVC resort has a sleeping capacity noted within the POS for each type of lodging. That is where the 4, 4, 8, and 12 comes from.

That's interesting... I thought it was based on square footage and the firecodes. Are firecodes based on space or on the above? Just curious.
I think it's funny that DVC allows 8 people into a very small 2bdrm DVC unit at BWV,VWL,BCV and SSR but only allow 4 in a 1 bdrm at OKW which has virtually the same square footage? I realize that there are only sleeping arrangements for a set # of people, but as far as square footage, I think it's odd and am disappointed in the size of the newer DVC resorts,after staying at OKW and then switching to SSR, I felt like we were in a maze of doors. OKW will always be our favorite!

 

[DVCconvert]

No One seems to believe me!!!

There is no "maximum"...you can stack 'em like like firewood at any DVC resort or room!

 

[Deb & Bill]

That's interesting... I thought it was based on square footage and the firecodes. Are firecodes based on space or on the above? Just curious.
I think it's funny that DVC allows 8 people into a very small 2bdrm DVC unit at BWV,VWL,BCV and SSR but only allow 4 in a 1 bdrm at OKW which has virtually the same square footage? I realize that there are only sleeping arrangements for a set # of people, but as far as square footage, I think it's odd and am disappointed in the size of the newer DVC resorts,after staying at OKW and then switching to SSR, I felt like we were in a maze of doors. OKW will always be our favorite!

Read NFPA 101, the Life Safety Code. If people can't get out of a space, it really doesn't matter how big it is if you can get out if an emergency.