Math?!?

[ocdb8r]

OK, this may have been covered in the past but I was just doing a little calculating for my next trip and I tried a little experiment.

If you rented a 2 bedroom at VWL during adventure season it would cost 270 points for the week. If one memeber rented a one bedroom and another rented a studio (essentially a two bedroom) it would total 304 points for the week. I'm sure this is not news to anyone......

So my question is how do they determine how many points are available to be sold for any given resort. Given that if you treat all the units as 2 bedrroms there are 34 less points required then if you treated them as only 1 bedrroms and studios.

Granted I know there are some 2 bedrooms that may not lock-off into a 1 bedroom/Studio, but because they CAN and DO combine 1 bedrooms with a connecting studio to make a two bedroom there is going to be some descrpency in the points those units draw year over year..........anyone see what I am asking? Anyone know what formula they use to determine the total points sold for the resort?

I'm sure this is in my documents but I find it's better to ask on this board before squinting through the fine print......

 

[drusba]

For the purpose of determining total points that can be sold all lock-off units are treated as 2BR's. Thus, they will not sell more points than it takes to reserve that unit as a 2BR for a year.

Looking at it theorectically and simply. Suppose there was only one 2BR lock-off and nothing else and it took 15,000 points to reserve for the year. They would sell only 15,000 points (actually a lttle less as they have to base total sold on a 51 week year. If the owners of those points then reserved it all year as a 1BR and studio using only current years points, they would use up all their points and still leave the unit open for a number of weeks.

 

[TnRobin]

That is a good questions. Are lock-offs considers a 2BR or a 1BR and Studio for the purpose of calculating the max points available at a DVC resort. I don't know the answer, but I would guess that they would call it a 2BR. I will look at my BWV information tongiht and see if I can find something out.

 

[ocdb8r]

My question is this then......if all lock-offs are calculated as 2 bedrooms, what do they do with the extra points (which translates into extra nights eventually) that they get if the lock off is rented as a studio and a 1-bedroom?

 

[Ralph&Pam]

Don't those extra nights then become available for cash ressies? The resulting cash offsets some of the maintenance cost keeping our dues lower.

Ralph

 

[drusba]

Not sure I understand question. Disney does nothing with the points. You have numerous units and numerous members. If someone uses points for a 1BR (and it was part of a lock-off) they are used points and Disney as a result does not have any points that it can use. If a lot of people reserve 2BR lock-offs as 1BR and studios that would provide some extra capacity which most likely will be used up by other members (such as those from other resorts reserving within the 7 month window). If the rooms have not been reserved by members by 60 days before an available date then Disney can rent them but most of the income generated thereby goes to off-set our annual dues.

 

[ocdb8r]

I'm really just trying to understand how it all works. I completely understand that unused inventory is rented 60 days out and then used to keep our dues lower....I'm more curious as to why DVC would make points to reserve a 2 bedroom different than the total points to reserve a 1 bedroom and a studio. Anyone have any insight?

I also wanted to know b/c it seems to me if I wanted to rent a one bedroom for a week in premier season, I could save 34 points by finding another member who wanted to rent a studio and us combining points and renting a 2 bedroom lock-off. Granted I could only request a lock-off, but 34 points for each member to save is quite a bit, even in Adventure season it would save each member 17 points......what do you all think?

 

[drusba]

I do not think Disney has ever explained why it made the 2BR fewer points than the combination of a studio and 1BR. A possible explanation is that the "home-away-from-home" concept was established to encourage owners to use larger units and to buy more points so they can do so--thus they made the 2BR look like a bargain even though it takes a lot of points. OKW, as established, officially has only 2BR units (and total points sold are based on that). When you see reports or ads that say it has 531 rooms that is counting all the rooms only as 2BR's; likewise the published 383 room count for BWV counts all lock-offs as 2BR units. Another explanation is that it does help to provide continuing availability for members as a whole when many members reserve the units as studios and separate 1BR's.

You are correct that you could hook up with another member and jointly acquire a 2BR at the fewer total points. You would have some issues to sort out if you found another member to do that such as who gets which room, how do you divide the points, is everyone comfortable with having room keys that open both units, and how do you deal with credit privileges on room keys.