Mask mandate doubled down--keep them on while dining?

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This is a commonly held misconception. The direct goal of public health policies in a pandemic is not to completely prevent people from being exposed to the virus. The measures it would take to do that would be prohibitively expensive and largely unnecessary. Anyone who has gone grocery shopping even occasionally over the last 8 months has almost certainly had an active Coronavirus (or a few thousand of them) in their body.

The goal of these policies is to reduce the aggregate viral load of the area in total; inside and outside of people. So a mask mandate (or premises rule, or whatever) that is in effect 100% of the time would be ideal from the perspective of reducing the viral presence of the environment, but we know that the last bit of that benefit comes at rapidly diminishing gains. Letting guests drop the mask for 12% of their day in the park (figuring about 1 hour of total meal time per 8 hours in the park) will reduce the benefit achieved but not by much.

But that's only looking at the direct effects of a strict mask mandate. For WDW, the policy is genius. Keeping people in the parks socially distanced and masked helps prevent the disease, but what helps the most is that such a policy alienates the type of people most likely to bring in the virus. People who travel as if nothing were wrong and hate to wear masks are staying out of Disney World right now and that is the best thing for Disney's bottom line.

You might say that the drop in revenue will destroy them. Or that their choice to disenfranchise super-spreader guests is leading to mass layoffs and damage to the economy, but Disney knows that the situation will resolve and things will return to normal. And while it sucks for the employees laid off, from Disney's perspective its financial goal is to reduce the amount they spend treating CMs who catch Covid from the guests (and paying out death benefits).

I was thinking along these lines back a few months ago. I don't 'like' to wear a mask, and I doubt anyone else who is a law abiding person and who complies for the good of the country actually likes wearing masks.

But I'll do it to keep my fellow citizens as safe as possible. It's such a small price to pay.

Obvious to me that if Disney had to further strengthen the rule that there were a significant number of people that pushed the boundaries. Good for Disney! I can't wait to go on my next trip! It's unfortunate that myself and many others had to cancel because people can't get it together and constantly whine about rules and guidelines.
 
We have been frequenting the parks a couple of times a week for a while now. I don't care if someone is at their table maskless or not, but will adhere to any policy Disney sets. What we have noticed almost every time we are eating though, are people getting out of their seats maskless. At Rainforest cafe a mom continued to get up and walk her children over to view the fish etc without her mask. At QS, people often get up maskless to throw their tray/ food away maskless. Maybe this is just Disney's way of trying to politely remind people to not do this.
 
This is the rule at Downtown Disney in Anaheim. You must keep your mask on until food/drink arrive and put it on after you’re done eating and drinking (in case you end up sitting around for 30 minutes just hanging out and chatting.)

There is precedent for this rule already on Disney property in California. This is the rule there. They don’t have to mask between bites. That’s completely made up.

This rule is in other places as well. I mentioned upthread that we have the same rule in my city. Guess what? A lot of people
are still going out to eat.

This amendment to the rule really isn’t as hard as people are making it out to be. If you’ve got a plate of food in front of you that you’re working on eating, no one is going to make you put a mask on. If you don’t have food in front of you or if you’ve finished your food, you need to put your mask on.
 

Honest question - is this surprising to people?

We have this exact same rule in my entire state. (At least, I’m fairly sure it’s the entire state. At the very least, it’s a rule in my city.) It helps protect the staff, so they’re not approaching tables of unmasked people and so that people aren’t walking around in the restaurant (to the restroom, for example), without a mask on.
It’s surprising to me. Our state has never had a mask mandate. It’s all a matter of perspective and what people are comfortable with.
 
I feel I agree with everyone saying it is a rewording of the current policy. People must be taking advantage and cast members were being tied by the rules. Now they can say something.
 
It’s obvious the forums are not a place to disagree with anything Disney decides. Look over the posts where Disney has cut a ton of thing many found magical and you will find the PR team attacking those who found the services helpful. The “don’t go” or “cancel” mob come out to imply it’s your problem for expecting more or being unsafe. We all know it’s a pandemic and we all know they have the right to do what they want. Why hasn’t Disney requested guests wear two masks at this point?
 
I think it’s pretty clear that people are probably turning TS meals into their own personal mask relaxation stations. Ripping their masks off the minute they sit down and probably lingering long after the meal for extra mask break time.
Good grief. God forbid anyone want a “break” from not only masks, but heat, crowds, walking 5 miles, etc etc. Yes, my family does sometimes linger at TS restaurants. We enjoy each other’s company and get caught up in conversation. We think about getting dessert or a coffee. We want a few more minutes in the AC or (the horror) a few more minutes breathing without a mask. There are lots of reasons people enjoy TS and it’s not like we’re all trying to come up with the best way to spread Covid to our servers. 🙄
 
Where are you getting twelve times per meal from?
I have read it to mean that you cannot remove your mask until your first drink is served. The mask can stay off until you have finished eating and drinking completely. I guess if others at your table are still eating or drinking, but you have finished you will have to put your mask back on.

I agree completely. This may be to reduce the time guests hang at a table unmasked after their meal is done. Maybe they are having a problem turning tables over? I have eaten indoors once since March in my state. We were required to keep our masks on until our drinks arrived. Then we took them off until our meal/drinks were complete. We put them on if getting up to use the restroom and when leaving after our meal. It was not confusing and it was super easy.
 
It’s surprising to me. Our state has never had a mask mandate. It’s all a matter of perspective and what people are comfortable with.

In many states they are not required from the state level, but your governor has left it up to the local level. A quick google shows that St Louis, Missouri has a mandate. Maybe you were unaware?
 
Good grief. God forbid anyone want a “break” from not only masks, but heat, crowds, walking 5 miles, etc etc. Yes, my family does sometimes linger at TS restaurants. We enjoy each other’s company and get caught up in conversation. We think about getting dessert or a coffee. We want a few more minutes in the AC or (the horror) a few more minutes breathing without a mask. There are lots of reasons people enjoy TS and it’s not like we’re all trying to come up with the best way to spread Covid to our servers. 🙄
Easy way to not have to deal with all this would be to not go when these are the rules. If you want a nice comfy meal take it back to your room or find a nice spot of grass outside a resort. For every person who is respectful there are 5 more who are not. This rule is for the nots. And now the cms can say something.
 
The CDC considers exposure as being in sustained contact at a distance of less than 6 ft with someone who has Covid for 15 mins or more. I’ve been a server for years. I cannot possibly imagine being in that close contact with a customer for 15 mins or more during an hour long meal. Especially as fast as they are moving at Disney. Just my 2 cents.
Unless you’ve got an entitled Karen to deal with throughout the meal
...but to require guests to wear their masks between bites at sit down restaurants? It's excessive.
Not going to happen, will be a tool for them to deal with obstinate guests
think it’s pretty clear that people are probably turning TS meals into their own personal mask relaxation stations. Ripping their masks off the minute they sit down and probably lingering long after the meal for extra mask break time.
My problem with this is, I don’t gobble down my food at home. Nor do I want my entree plopped on the table until i am finished with my appetizer. If I am paying over $100 PP to dine in a signature restaurant with wine service, I am surely not going to rush a three course meal and be out the door in 30 minutes to satisfy their metrics.
 
I wonder if they will have a "manager" walking around so this would not be a issue.
I mean, that would be the best plan. But since that would require additional staffing, my money is on no.
 
Good grief. God forbid anyone want a “break” from not only masks, but heat, crowds, walking 5 miles, etc etc. Yes, my family does sometimes linger at TS restaurants. We enjoy each other’s company and get caught up in conversation. We think about getting dessert or a coffee. We want a few more minutes in the AC or (the horror) a few more minutes breathing without a mask. There are lots of reasons people enjoy TS and it’s not like we’re all trying to come up with the best way to spread Covid to our servers. 🙄

If this small change that helps provide a safer environment for CMs by reducing their overall cumulative exposure when serving guests is that big of a deal, I really have nothing else to say.

Nobody loves wearing masks. I am fully mask compliant and understand the importance of them for minimizing exposure. We have eaten at some outdoor restaurants here at home and this is what is required everywhere we’ve gone. Mask on until you order/receive food or drink, back on when you’re done. Pretty standard protocol around us. Not a big deal.

Masks don’t really bother me, but I don’t **want** to wear them. I understand **why** we do. I can’t wait until we don’t have to wear them. This is not that time yet, though.

Until then, I’m going to wear my mask as often as I can try to keep others as safe as possible.
 
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