Marijuana and kids

[disykat]

I don't know why people are so surprised that some people smell like smoke and others don't. I've know people that smoked cigarettes that never smell and others who smell horribly. Why wouldn't it be the same with marijuana? It depends on their habits. How often, where, what kind of ventilation, etc. etc. etc.

 

[luvsJack]

I don't know why people are so surprised that some people smell like smoke and others don't. I've know people that smoked cigarettes that never smell and others who smell horribly. Why wouldn't it be the same with marijuana? It depends on their habits. How often, where, what kind of ventilation, etc. etc. etc.

Most people that smoke pot do not smoke anywhere near as much as someone smoking cigarettes. Cigarette smokers smoke, on average, a pack a day (no I haven’t researched it, just seems to be about what smokers smoke) Pot smokers smoke a whole lot less than that. I mean dd’s friend whose mother smokes pot daily smokes a joint each day after work like others may have a drink. So a whole lot less. Of course there are those who smoke a whole lot more and a lot more that smoke a whole lot less.

A lot of marijuana smokers (recreational) also smoke cigarettes. I do wonder if what some people are describing is a possible combination of the two.

I have been around marijuana smokers since high school. I have never noticed a lingering smell. And no I haven’t been around them so much that I have grown accustomed to the smell either.

 

[Colleen27]

Like I said, there is a pill. However, it's basically synthetic THC and inert ingredients. If there's anything more complex in marijuana that alleviates symptoms then the pill isn't going to provide it.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/does-the-pot-pill-work/

"Marinol provides standardized THC concentrations, does not contain the other 400 uncharacterized substances found in smoked marijuana, such as carcinogens or fungal spores, and is not associated with the quick high of smoked marijuana," said Neil Hirsch, a spokesman for Marinol manufacturer Solvay Pharmaceuticals.

But Marinol is not the same thing as traditional, smokable marijuana. It is a less complex substance lacking both some of the good components found in traditional marijuana (such as cannabidiol, which has been found to have anti-seizure effects) and the bad or not-yet-fully-understood components (among them potential carcinogens) that can also come with the drug.​

Drugs.com has this to say about marinol:

The cost for Marinol oral capsule 2.5 mg is around $692 for a supply of 60 capsules, depending on the pharmacy you visit.

Which is what I was saying about it not being a viable/marketable alternative. Most of the people I know using medicinal pot are spending $20-30/wk on it. In states where it is legal with a med card, they aren't likely to have people lining up to pay $500/mo *more* for a synthetic product, even if it was 100% just as effective in every way. Without the "protection" of medicinal pot being illegal, investment in pill-form synthetic or extracted marijuana meds is pretty risky territory for a drug company.

 

[disykat]

This whole post started because an 11 year old girl noticed and was commenting on the smell of marijuana, yet everyone keeps insisting it doesn't smell. I don't get it. The exact level of it's smelliness doesn't matter. The girl in question noticed it and that's why this thread was started.

The only reason the smell even matters is that it is the reason the girl will know about the marijuana usage in this case.

 

[tinatark]

I agree with that, but is it really any different than if she's taking vicodin or whatever pain killer. I don't know if that is a good enough argument

Yes - those are legally prescribed. What she is doing is not.

 

[moon]

Researchers are working on a pill, but before marketing it they have to verify that the pill would work as well as the smoked version, is no less safe, etc. All of that development and the clinical trials take a lot of time and money. I've read about one promising clinical trial for a pill, but it only had 30 participants. So a marijuana pill is not impossible but is also not going to be on the market anytime soon.

The fact that the substance's legality has been so hotly contested nationwide has made it hard to fundraise a ton of research money for it...

And it's going to be great when people have to pay a ton of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to get the pill, for the benefit of the pharmaceutical companies

 

[barkley]

I sound like I’m a total pothead. I’m not, but I have indulged a few times to see if it would help with pain. It did, but it made my heart race too much. It’s going to be legal in Canada by August I believe so I may look for some edibles

depending on the type of pain you have, when it becomes legal where you are-research topicals and tinctures w/the lowest thc/highest cbd ratios. these provide the pain management/relief attributes but little to none of the 'high' or anxiety/heart racing that some experience.

i'm very thankful that my state has legalized marijuana across the board. with all the issues with traditional pain pills it's been wonderful to see friends and neighbors able to reduce and in some cases totally eliminate their needs for prescription pain meds by simply utilizing a relatively low cost non addictive non impairing salve or tincture.

 

[LongLiveRafiki]

Certainly, different people's smoking habits can effect whether it's smelled on their clothes, in their house, vehicle, whatever. As can other people's sense of smell. Some of you may not smell it on those around you, but there are likely others who can. The smell can linger. I used to be a contractor repairing repossessed houses. Many of them smelled of pot. The worst was actually a house that had been vacant for 2 weeks and had no furniture inside for the smell to linger on. We replaced the carpet and linoleum, cleaned, febreezed, and used odoban (a strong deodorizer). You could still smell it. Our rep finally had us paint the entire house and we were able to get rid of the smell. As a PP noted, an 11 year old child noticed the smell in her grandmother's home while the grandmother was not actively smoking. The smell does linger, and especially so in places without a lot of ventilation, like a house.

Also the effects of breathing in the second-hand smoke have been compared in several studies to that of cigarettes. It continues to baffle me that while so many people are taking a stance against smoking cigarettes in public places due to the effects on non-smokers breathing it in, so many people are all about legalizing recreational use of pot, which can then be smoked in public as well. Breathing in any kind of second-hand smoke, cigarettes or pot, is not good for anyone. Some studies have found pot present in non-smokers who are around those who smoke, and if those around them are smoking a good bit of pot, the second-hand smoke has been shown to cause mild impairments in motor tasks... And this is just from a contact high, without even smoking it.

 

[mjkacmom]

This whole post started because an 11 year old girl noticed and was commenting on the smell of marijuana, yet everyone keeps insisting it doesn't smell. I don't get it. The exact level of it's smelliness doesn't matter. The girl in question noticed it and that's why this thread was started.

The only reason the smell even matters is that it is the reason the girl will know about the marijuana usage in this case.

No, the OP was worried that eventually her Dd would smell it. I’m in my 50’s, by the age of 11 I knew what pot smelled like, and had been offered it. My 12 year olds knew their grandma smoked it to deal with the effects of chemo, and thought that was funny, although they never smelled it (my mom would go into her bathroom by the window, one or two hits, before trying to eat).

 

[luvsJack]

Certainly, different people's smoking habits can effect whether it's smelled on their clothes, in their house, vehicle, whatever. As can other people's sense of smell. Some of you may not smell it on those around you, but there are likely others who can. The smell can linger. I used to be a contractor repairing repossessed houses. Many of them smelled of pot. The worst was actually a house that had been vacant for 2 weeks and had no furniture inside for the smell to linger on. We replaced the carpet and linoleum, cleaned, febreezed, and used odoban (a strong deodorizer). You could still smell it. Our rep finally had us paint the entire house and we were able to get rid of the smell. As a PP noted, an 11 year old child noticed the smell in her grandmother's home while the grandmother was not actively smoking. The smell does linger, and especially so in places without a lot of ventilation, like a house.

Also the effects of breathing in the second-hand smoke have been compared in several studies to that of cigarettes. It continues to baffle me that while so many people are taking a stance against smoking cigarettes in public places due to the effects on non-smokers breathing it in, so many people are all about legalizing recreational use of pot, which can then be smoked in public as well. Breathing in any kind of second-hand smoke, cigarettes or pot, is not good for anyone. Some studies have found pot present in non-smokers who are around those who smoke, and if those around them are smoking a good bit of pot, the second-hand smoke has been shown to cause mild impairments in motor tasks... And this is just from a contact high, without even smoking it.

That’s not entirely true. It is possible to get a contact high but it has to be very specific circumstances that most of the time isn’t going to happen.

For instance if it’s legal and someone is smoking in an open air area—it ain’t going to happen. In a house with normal ventilation it isn’t going to happen. Maybe in a car but if you are sitting there trying to breathe it in or trying not to breathe it in, it’s likely that your “high” is coming from your lack of oxygen.

As many studies that are said the “prove” contact highs, there are just as many disproving it.

The fact is there are positives to marijuana. And legalizing it would get some control over it, would make it available to people like the OP’s mother who use it for her quality of life and would give LEO more time to concentrate on the actual dangerous drugs.

I do not smoke pot. Haven’t since a couple of times in the 70’s. But I can see the positive sides to it.

And the child in the op described a smell. The OP’s paranoia of her dh finding out could have made her believe it was the pot. Unless the child said it smelled like marijuana, we don’t know that is what she smelled. And no one has said it doesn’t have a smell. But it isn’t as lingering as cigarettes in MOST cases. People were jumping in saying her dd’s clothes were going to smell like pot but her mother doesn’t smoke around the child-that’s not likely to happen.

 

[phorsenuf]

She's 11. She knows.

 

[Fldisneyfamily4321]

I would definitely speak to your dh and daughter but also I am glad your mother found something that works !
I am 42 and on 6 different pain medications for over 10 yrs , I am in a state that approved it for medical use but have not sat with my PM dr to discuss trying this option ( he is all for the use ) . I still may go that route given my age and I still have a long way to go and all those meds can’t be good for my body . I have never been a pot user but I completely agree that it can be used as a great medication.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Your mom should consider moving to a state where medical marijuana is legal or should petition her state representatives to legalize it.

 

[barkley]

so many people are all about legalizing recreational use of pot, which can then be smoked in public as well.

it's entirely legal to purchase/carry/consume here in washington-but smoking/vaping or use of any type is NOT on the sidewalk, in a city, county, state or federal park, in any other public place or 'in public view', including on private property if it's close enough to a public space where people can view the usage or smell the smoke/vape in use.

i'm not saying it never happens but the laws are enforced so unless someone wants to pay a hundred or so dollars for each infraction they tend to use it in private.

 

[kimblebee]

it's entirely legal to purchase/carry/consume here in washington-but smoking/vaping or use of any type is NOT on the sidewalk, in a city, county, state or federal park, in any other public place or 'in public view', including on private property if it's close enough to a public space where people can view the usage or smell the smoke/vape in use.

i'm not saying it never happens but the laws are enforced so unless someone wants to pay a hundred or so dollars for each infraction they tend to use it in private.

Canada is going to be legal this summer. I expect people will smoke in the street for about six months and then it will go back to normal. Maybe not even that long since winter will be coming lol

 

[Liberty Belle]

Tell your Mom to have some burnt sage in a dish. You can buy stalks of it at various shops to cleanse your home. To me, it smells a lot like MJ, so she could just tell your daughter that's what it was. When your daughter is older and able to keep secrets, you can explain.

 

[barkley]

Canada is going to be legal this summer. I expect people will smoke in the street for about six months and then it will go back to normal. Maybe not even that long since winter will be coming lol

will it be legal to use in public? that was one of the big issues when they were looking at passing the law here. it's not like the law entirely eliminates people from using in public but it's not frequently that I smell any of it while i'm out and about but that might also be b/c with it being legal people are able to buy vapes and cartridges which seem to have become much more popular (and I tend not to smell anything when someone use a vape-despite the substance in it).

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Tell your Mom to have some burnt sage in a dish. You can buy stalks of it at various shops to cleanse your home. To me, it smells a lot like MJ, so she could just tell your daughter that's what it was. When your daughter is older and able to keep secrets, you can explain.

So make sure mom gets salvia officinalis, not salvia divinorum.

 

[kimblebee]

will it be legal to use in public? that was one of the big issues when they were looking at passing the law here. it's not like the law entirely eliminates people from using in public but it's not frequently that I smell any of it while i'm out and about but that might also be b/c with it being legal people are able to buy vapes and cartridges which seem to have become much more popular (and I tend not to smell anything when someone use a vape-despite the substance in it).

It’s going to follow the same rules as smoking so yes, outside is fine.

 

[rigs32]

I don’t know what kind of skunky weed you guys have been around but I’ve never, NEVER, been around someone that smells like second hand smoke..it’s just not a thing. My guess is that this worry is based on assumptions.

I work in the court system and people come to the court house smelling of weed every. single. day and it's not legal here.