Marathon Weekend 2027

[The Expert]

STILL on the fence about whether to gamble a single race registration or just go for Dopey. These designs are making a hard push for the latter.

 

[fatmanatee]

I am surprised by the artwork release— I wonder if we are getting a post at 10 AM. Have we ever gotten it on a Monday before? I figured we would get it next week because of all the Princess content.

As for the shirts, based on previous years my guess is these will be the colors of the shirts you can purchase and the ones we get will be random and weird.

As far as I can remember it’s been Tuesday and it’s also never been during another race week and it’s never been… 6 am???? I wonder if they wanted to get this out last week but between everything going on it just wasn’t ready.

 

[PrincessV]

SAFD: another one with princess feet - AND I’m a recovering ballerina, which makes me extra picky about shoe fit. I once had a shoe fitter ask me “Dancer or soccer player? I can always tell because the dancers and soccer players need their running shoes to fit perfectly: like a protective sleeve over their feet.” And yep - that totally tracks, lol! I need my shoes to fit so well that I’m totally unaware of their existence while running: no shifting, lifting, bunching, sliding, etc. And that is surprisingly difficult to find with low volume feet that are wide across the metatarsal, but narrow through the midfoot and heel/ankle. Plus I don’t like a bunch of cushion: my feet need to feel the ground or I feel unstable through the rest of my body. But also, my aging joints really do need some cushion from the concrete I mostly run.

For now, I’m wearing Altra Escalante 4s for short runs and I love them. But for longer distances, the laces dig into the top of my feet and skip-lacing makes the fit too sloppy. So I’m suffering with the Torin 8 on long runs, which is more rigid than I like and weirdly pulls my socks too tight over my toes while also allowing my feet to shift forward, making the front of the arch bite into my big toe joint. I’m just hoping Altra fixes the Torin 9 and/or the Flow 3 is better.

 

[PrincessV]

I love the artwork! But… Donald’s race has a history now of anniversaries getting hyped up, then being badly impacted by weather. I’m not sure it’s wise to carry that bad juju over to all the other races.

 

[GuinnessRunner]

I like the artwork but still have PTSD from this years's shirts and look at these and immediately fear characters the size of a basketball plastered to the front of the race shirts.

 

[marty3d]

I really like the artwork - has more of a "back to basics" feel. And given the fact that there isn't a different theme for each race (like this year), I'm really comfortable with my decision to have chosen Goofy for 2027.

STILL on the fence about whether to gamble a single race registration or just go for Dopey. These designs are making a hard push for the latter.

I am wondering if the half will sell out really quickly due to the emphasis on Donald and the anniversary this year. If you don't go for Dopey that might not be the one to gamble on!

I love the artwork! But… Donald’s race has a history now of anniversaries getting hyped up, then being badly impacted by weather. I’m not sure it’s wise to carry that bad juju over to all the other races.

Don't say it! I still have 2017 PTSD!

 

[SheHulk]

Love the artwork, and I agree, I like a back-to-basics look. Donald on all the medals would be fine with me, I love him (and Daisy).

 

[GuinnessRunner]

Looks like they added about a month of additional time for the POT like they did for W&D: January 1, 2024 - August 3, 2026.

 

[jrsharp21]

SAFD: Saucony Endorphin Pro 4 have been my go to race day shoe the past couple of years. Of course, I got bored and tried something new. I picked up a pair of Nike Alpha Fly 3. In a stupid move, I took them out for a 12 mile run out of shoot. At about mile 9, my IT band was barking big time. So they have been benched for now and back to the EP4. I will try the Alpha Fly again after the Iron Man training is over.

For an every day training shoe, I have been using the Adidas EVO SL. Super light and comfortable shoe. I did use to wear Asics Novablast back when they first came out. Had several versions of the first model and Novablast 2. I am contemplating in picking up a pair of Novablast 5 for training runs.

 

[jrsharp21]

Yes to those shirts please runDisney don’t mess them up, these could be keepers

This!!!! If these are the shirts and colors, these could be one of the best shirt designs since I have been doing rD races. Simple and clean.

 

[camaker]

Looks like they added about a month of additional time for the POT like they did for W&D: January 1, 2024 - August 3, 2026.

That's good news. My PoT will remain valid for this year. It was always expected to, but it's good to get confirmation, especially as I'm not in a good place to reestablish it this spring. I'll be shooting for a new PoT in my fall race.

 

[Baloo in MI]

I love the artwork! But… Donald’s race has a history now of anniversaries getting hyped up, then being badly impacted by weather. I’m not sure it’s wise to carry that bad juju over to all the other races.

Wow, that means the cancelled half in 2017 will be 10 years ago!!! I know that was probably very clear to everyone but this made it sink in for me. I do think about the unofficial race that took place all around the resorts, but it feels as if it was just a “few years ago”…. Where the heck does the time go!

 

[Naomeri]

The description of Goofy Challenge on the website indicates Donald will be on the medal with Goofy. Wondering if he's going to be on all of them with the other characters!

Edited to add the text: (unless I'm reading this how I want to read it haha)
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I wonder if Donald will crash all the medals? It would be pretty funny—kinda like all the Lilo & Stitch ads where Stitch crashed different Disney movies.

 

[MissLiss279]

So I know that Dopey and the Fab 5+Daisy don’t exist in the same universe (is that what it’s called??), and that is reflected in the website statement - no mention of Donald in the Dopey Challenge highlight and no Donald swiping the Dopey Challenge in the Instagram reel.

 

[FFigawi]

I like the artwork but still have PTSD from this years's shirts and look at these and immediately fear characters the size of a basketball plastered to the front of the race shirts.

If runDisney and Brooks paid attention to any of the feedback from this year, these could be decent shirts*. Sadly, that's a mighty big if.

*the grey and yellow shirts not withstanding

 

[Dopey 2020]

Given Saucony's recent track record with the Speed 4 being a disaster for most people who ran in the Speed 3, I’d stick with the Elite 2 until you know the Elite 3 is a success.

SAFD: I rotate between the Saucony Speed 5 and Asics Kayano for training, and the Asics Meta Speed and Saucony Pro 4 for racing. I did buy a pair of the Disney Brooks shoes during MW this year to use as park shoes too.

This being a big reason… ordered up another pair, and if they remain stocked when they go on sale with the 3 I may even get another.
The speed 4 wasn’t good for you if I remember? How’s the 5 compare, I’ve been afraid to even look at them

 

[Fenway1970]

Yes to those shirts please runDisney don’t mess them up, these could be keepers

Oh my gosh, I love this artwork!! Please keep these designs and colors for the shirts!!

I really like the artwork - has more of a "back to basics" feel.

Love the artwork, and I agree, I like a back-to-basics look. Donald on all the medals would be fine with me, I love him (and Daisy).

This!!!! If these are the shirts and colors, these could be one of the best shirt designs since I have been doing rD races. Simple and clean.

Gotta agree with all of this! Please let these be the shirts! And may the odds be ever in our favor with some luck o' the Irish on March 17!

 

[fatmanatee]

As far as I can remember it’s been Tuesday and it’s also never been during another race week and it’s never been… 6 am???? I wonder if they wanted to get this out last week but between everything going on it just wasn’t ready.

Looking at IG stories and Teamrundis had something out at FOUR AM? Wild.

 

[Tall Todd]

My good PoTs have fallen off. Should I use a 4:31 full or 2:24 half?

 

[MissLiss279]

My good PoTs have fallen off. Should I use a 4:31 full or 2:24 half?

I’m not sure for which distance race you are asking, but if it is for a Marathon or a Challenge, only the marathon time would qualify. I think a half time of 2:24 would not translate to a 5:00 or faster marathon (so it won’t work for the marathon).
The marathon time would still be best for a Half POT.

ETA:

Hi all,

I figured runners of all the different runDisney races would be interested in the following information. We do now have confirmed cutoffs for the 2024-2025 POT season as it has been set at 2:30 hours for HM POT and 5:00 hours for M POT (presumably).

Based on DL Halloween and W&D, here is an updated POT equivalency chart based on that information:

CURRENT VERSION IS 10.31.24

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OLD VERSIONS BELOW with previous cutoff information

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The pink values are the times runDisney had previously confirmed during the 2021-2022 racing season as the race equivalents of a 4:00 M and 2:00 HM. I have no reason to believe these values will deviate much from our previous confirmation. The orange values were the new cutoffs provided to me as estimates/rounded. They are all reasonably close to what I had calculated prior based on the previous estimated Riegel R values. The biggest difference was the 4:52 marathon equivalent to the 2:15 HM which I had a 4:54 (so still close).

Below was my theoretical version prior to getting more concrete values from runDisney. They're still leaving some wiggle room in their language on the most recent confirmation, so I still think these are probably reasonably close to reality.

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Old values pre-2021/2022 calendar:

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So, if you are looking to have a POT submittable time, then your POT should be faster than what is listed above. So a 1:38:00 10 mile is fast enough to be a POT submittable time for a HM solo event (or Challenge), but not fast enough for a M/Goofy/Dopey POT submission.

Since we have these, I've used this to help convert what I believe to be very close to the corral cutoffs. Since runDisney has moved away from the "lots of corrals with set number of people model" to a "small number of corral based on a set POT and do mini-wave" system, then these corral cutoffs should presumably be translatable across all the runDisney weekends (Princess, Marathon, Avengers, Star Wars, etc.).

The orange values are the confirmed cutoffs and the rest are just educated guesses based on math.

To read this chart, let's say you wanted to be in Starting Group s2 of Dopey. Then runDisney seems to have placed that at a 3:40-4:00 M race equivalent. So you would need to run at least a POT under 1:24:30 for 10 miler or 1:53:45 for HM.

Let's say you were aiming for Starting Group s1 of the HM solo event. Then you'd need at least a 54:45 10k, 1:31:15 10 miler, or 4:21:45 M.

If you select a non-POT submittable finish, then you'll be asked for an "estimated finish".

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If you choose 2:30-2:45 HM, then you will be placed in the first non-POT starting group (Corral D or its equivalent). If you choose 3:15-3:30 HM, then you will be placed in the last starting group (Corral F or it's equivalent). During the 2022 runDisney season they were changing the number of starting groups each weekend. So while the graphics above say six starting groups, runDisney could do four for Wine and Dine and then six for MW. At this point we haven't nailed down the methodology choices on that, and we may never since it seems to some extent it's based on the estimates runners choose for that particular weekend (leading to the combination of two selectable ranges). The point being, ultimately the faster estimated range you select the earlier start group you'll be in.

2026 DIsneyland is using 10 min interval ranges:

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Same goes for the 5k/10k (either as a solo event or as a challenge). What you choose from the drop-down will determine Corral position for that event (most of the time, we've seen some funny business here off and on).

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I hope this helps and let me know if there is any confusion!

ETA: I updated the race equivalency corral breakdown chart into a more readable format.
ETA (3/4/2019): Based on 2019 Princess, I have amended the estimated cutoffs for a HM POT.
ETA (7/24/2019): Did a search for all POT related discussions with confirmed conversions from runDIsney. Used the average R value from those confirmed conversions to slightly amend the corral estimated cutoffs chart. New version depicted above.

ETA (3/10/2020): After contacting runDisney, I have received confirmation that the 2:30 HM POT cutoff is the new standard moving forward starting with Wine and Dine 2020. They provided me with the conversions necessary for each of the submittable distances as seen in the new updated chart at the beginning.

ETA (4/2/2020): runDisney has updated their website to show the new POT cutoff for the marathon distance is 5 hours. A new updated chart as been added and will be updated with official cutoffs when that information is available.

ETA (5/10/2021): Error was found in 10 miler HM POT calculated values.

ETA (6/30/2021): With the announcement of the 2021/2022 runDisney calendar came a new HM POT cutoff for Wine and Dine 2021 at 2:00 hrs. There is nothing listed for the Marathon at this time. I've included a new theoretical POT cutoff sheet above until we learn more.

ETA (7/7/2021): @Herding_Cats shared an image from an email from runDisney stating the marathon POT cutoff will be 5:00 hrs.

ETA (7/19/2021): Confirmed 2021 Marathon Weekend cutoff of 4 hours or less per runDisney's website.

ETA (7/20/2021): Confirmed cutoffs for 2021-2022 POT from runDisney.

ETA (1/21/2022): Add unofficial cutoffs from 2022 Marathon Weekend design

ETA (4/9/2022): Confirmed cutoffs for HM events moved to 2:15 POT equivalent and for M/Goofy/Dopey to 4:30 POT equivalent.

ETA (5/18/2022): Estimated/rounded cutoffs shared by runDIsney.

ETA (1/12/2023): Cutoffs changed based on how MW 2023 was handled.

ETA (2/20/2024): Based on 2024 Disneyland Halloween Weekend and 2024 Wine and Dine Weekend, the HM POT cutoff has been moved to 2:30 or less. So a new updated table has been made reflecting that change. At this point in time we don't have confirmation that Marathon/Goofy/Dopey is moving to a 5:00hr cutoff, but I will change the table to reflect that possibility.

ETA (10/31/2024): Based on 2024 Wine and Dine Weekend, the Club runDisney Platinum members were placed into Corral B. I've also temporarily removed the DL designation from the current version since 2024 Disneyland Halloween Weekend doesn't appear to have followed the same corral placement method. At a later date, I'll attempt to figure out the methodology.

ETA (4/24/2025): 2026 Disneyland HM is using 10 minute intervals for the HM ranges starting at 2:31.