Marathon Weekend 2022

My coworker that is a 2:40 marathoner and his super-fast wife are both running this weekend.
 
Sorry to ask again but this thread moves too fast, thinking about driving to the 5k and heading out of parking asap after. Is it really as easy as it seems from AKL? There’s no road closures for the 5 right?

Right. Just Osceola to World Drive to Epcot Center Drive--the usual way in.
 
Can anyone comment on whether the KT booth was doing any runner taping?
Yes they were. Im thinking about stopping by on Friday to have them tape my outer knee and IT band. I think you have to purchase a roll of tape. At least that’s how it used to be.
 

...aaaaand child care may have just backed out. Panicked scrambling now begins.

My wife and I were going to leave Friday morning and return Sunday morning (running the Half), and our kids (12 & 15) were staying with family. Oh, man, this is going to be a crazy evening...

I happily accept all positive thoughts pointed my way.
 
They have never dinged the Dopey runners with PoT before. We’ve always run right where our PoT placed us. I don’t think they’d start artificially moving people back now. My guess is that they had a target number of runners for S1 and ended up with more qualifying PoTs than anticipated, so they shifted the S1/S2 cutoff rather than have a larger than anticipated S1.

Or they used the old Corral A delineation which was at 1:44:08 or faster for a HM (3:40 marathon equivalent). Can anyone below 1:44:08 POT chime in to say whether they ended up in s1 or s2?

Another 1:49 half POT in S2 with bib 205XX
Not happy about being sent back a corral while the pacers I wanted to follow are up front. Maybe I can catch them
Same boat. I am going to try to catch the pacers if I can get a spot up front of S2.

I ran some math for you. I assume the difference between s1 and s2 will be about 3 minutes. So let's assume you start 1 min, 2 min, or 3 min behind your desired pacer team of 3:45 or 4:00.

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To read this, let's assume you're aiming for the 4 hr pacer and you start 2 min behind them. That would be the right hand chart in color green. I'm assuming a GPS distance of 26.4 miles, so they'll be doing a 9:05 min/mile. If you wanted to catch them within 1 mile, you'd need to do a 7:05 min/mile. If you wanted to catch them at 6 miles, you'd wanted to run an 8:45 min/mile.

Now let's compare those paces to your physiological paces based on the 1:49 HM.

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Your M Tempo under perfect conditions, fully trained, and a top 6% converter is 8:40 pace. Given your HM pace is 8:19, I'd really hesitate to tell you to go any faster than that to catch your pace group. I'd personally recommend not going any faster than 8:40 under ideal conditions. If you're running Dopey, then I'd be careful going much faster than a 8:50-9:00 min/mile to play catch up depending on how you treat the other races.

Just some data to mull over in your decision making process if you do decide to try and catch them.
 
...aaaaand child care may have just backed out. Panicked scrambling now begins.

My wife and I were going to leave Friday morning and return Sunday morning (running the Half), and our kids (12 & 15) were staying with family. Oh, man, this is going to be a crazy evening...

I happily accept all positive thoughts pointed my way.

OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE IT FIGURED OUT. OH, AM I YELLING?
Okay, I think we have it worked out. Kids are staying with their grandparents. They were not originally in the mix, because Grandma got a new knee in December. But it may be for the best, because the kids can help out around the house, and take down all the Christmas decorations.

I can now commence breathing. 🤕
 












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