Marathon Weekend 2022

[Herding_Cats]

THERE'S SPECTATOR VIEWING INFO/LOCATIONS FOR THE HALF! And it's not just "this is the start and this is the finish." There's nothing in it about the full though, and the virtual goody bag still references W&D, so this is clearly a work in progress still.

 

[SheHulk]

So the "start area" maps look like there will be 6 start groups for the half and full? Regretting putting in an honest finish time projection for Goofy. Hopefully we get out quickly.

 

[lukemorenus]

So the "start area" maps look like there will be 6 start groups for the half and full? Regretting putting in an honest finish time projection for Goofy. Hopefully we get out quickly.

Very interesting. Wine & Dine had 4 groups, as I recall.

 

[SheHulk]

Am I reading this full marathon map wrong, or are we *only* going through the parking lot for Blizzard Beach this time, and not actually the park itself? I'm attaching a map from 2020 and they detailed the run thru the park last time, not this time.

 

[gosalyn_mallard]

Yey for course maps ealier than expected! What a fun Monday morning surprise.

My random comments:
- I like that the 10k has a tiny bit more of Sunset Blvd in HS than the W&D course.
- The 10k enters HS in a different location that I've not run in the past, which is cool.
- I wish that the marathon course went under the train station in MK, but glad the half does.
- From finish area map, looks like the 'I did it' photo op is the same setup as W&D. Hope they add more backdrops.

 

[lukemorenus]

Am I reading this full marathon map wrong, or are we *only* going through the parking lot for Blizzard Beach this time, and not actually the park itself? I'm attaching a map from 2020 and they detailed the run thru the park last time, not this time.View attachment 628514

Looks like it ... that parking lot better be dang entertaining! ;-)

 

[MissLiss279]

Am I reading this full marathon map wrong, or are we *only* going through the parking lot for Blizzard Beach this time, and not actually the park itself? I'm attaching a map from 2020 and they detailed the run thru the park last time, not this time.View attachment 628514

That’s how I am reading it - it looks like an out and back on the road just outside BB, and then a loop through the parking lot.

ETA: link to better quality picture map https://guide.rundisney.events/wp-content/uploads/2021-wdwm/fullcourse.pdf

 

[SheHulk]

Looks like it ... that parking lot better be dang entertaining! ;-)

That’s how I am reading it - it looks like an out and back on the road just outside BB, and then a loop through the parking lot.

ETA: link to better quality picture map https://guide.rundisney.events/wp-content/uploads/2021-wdwm/fullcourse.pdf

That's too bad... I actually liked running through BB. It's the only "park" in FL that I hadn't been to before. And yes looking at all that nice cool water was kind of a torture in the heat, but still nice "extra" park time.

 

[ZellyB]

SAFD: A few new things this time we want to do:
Taking the train in AK out to do Animation Academy experience (or whatever they call it out there)
Trying Steakhouse 71. We've eaten at the Wave several times but looking forward to trying this
Hopefully riding Remy if we can get a BG

The last few trips we've tried to find at least a few things in the park we haven't done before to try each time.

 

[MissLiss279]

Link to Google Maps maps.
https://goo.gl/maps/DrfF5ByRHinUkbjT6

And zoomed in area for BB area:

 

[lhermiston]

10k also goes through HS! I don’t think MW has done that before.

#RogueTwo went to DHS during the 2020 10k, though that wasn’t part of the course.

 

[MissLiss279]

#RogueTwo went to DHS during the 2020 10k, though that wasn’t part of the course.

I remember that story! What’s another 1-2 miles added to a 10k??

 

[1lilspark]

Was looking forward to a full-ish WS loop but some different scenery in studios is a nice trade off 6 sg’s for the 10k too maybe I’ll be middle of the pack again instead of having to get in when they opened and stand around to be up front in the last group

 

[DopeyBadger]

Starts

All four races are showing 6 starting groups. That means for the most part that the 5k/10k start group assignment is simply your estimated pace with an extra group in there for some sort of spreading. Under 8 min pace = s1, 8-10 = s2, 10-12 = s3, 12-14 = s4, 14-16 = s5



The HM/M are similar.





Finish Line



5k

New 5k course for Marathon Weekend. It matches the 2021 Wine and Dine 5k course. Now includes Remy and Imagination/Land/Sea. Unlike 2020, you do get to run past the EPCOT ball.


10k

Completely new 10k course. I'm not finding anything similar since at least 2011. Far less EPCOT time compared to the normal 10k course (link). No Boardwalk, only Yacht/Beach Club. But you do get more DHS than you've been getting recently. Since DHS isn't open when the balloon ladies would clear it (6:00am start and 64 min to point = 7:04am). DHS opens at 9am per the Disney website. It seems like a smart idea. There's about 3.5 miles of highway time which is roughly the same as the old course as well.



HM

HM is almost the same as 2020. There is a small change in MK as you go back to the backside of Fantasyland (which 2020 shows you did not). With that being said, none of the mile markers are in different places post that change. So a little suspect. And then in 2022 you go past the EPCOT ball which you didn't do in 2020.


M

Mostly the same course as 2020. 2020 had backside Fantasyland, 2022 does not. BB out and back and then parking lot with no park time in 2022. Quick exit of DHS like in 2020. Closer to EPCOT ball in 2022, than 2020, but not like the classic finish in 2019.


I like the use of the 10k to get more DHS time that the M seems to have to avoid now a days.

 

[SheHulk]

PSA if anybody besides me was struggling to get a Biergarten reservation, my Touring Plans reservation finder started popping off texts for availability opening up. I was able to score any time I wanted on Jan 6. Hurry up if you were looking for them! Maybe other restaurants just opened up too?

 

[gosalyn_mallard]

Mostly the same course as 2020. 2020 had backside Fantasyland, 2022 does not. BB out and back and then parking lot with no park time in 2022. Quick exit of DHS like in 2020. Closer to EPCOT ball in 2022, than 2020, but not like the classic finish in 2019.

I heard so many negative things about the early miles into Epcot in 2020... like impact to transportation and crowding. I'm surprised that they didn't change the course to eliminate it.

 

[DopeyBadger]

I heard so many negative things about the early miles into Epcot in 2020... like impact to transportation and crowding. I'm surprised that they didn't change the course to eliminate it.

I think they're trying to avoid putting us on Osceola Pkwy. So it's hard to add 4.5 miles to the course without going through EPCOT early. Hopefully a few more years time will help them avoid some of the logistical issues they faced in 2020 with transportation. But the course design does make that difficult. They could add the out/back on Western Way, but I think most would trade some crowding in EPCOT over the out/back of Western.

 

[Oswald0827]

Which rides are doable during the marathon in place of Everest? Or do I just need to add another adult bev stop ?

 

[BigEeyore]

Yay for course maps! Overall happy with it - no WWOS and no out and back on Western Way before AK. Decent park time everywhere except HS but given that the park will be open when we go through, and it is so busy there now with Star Wars and TS land it's not a surprise.
Trying not to stress about the start groups - I submitted a decent time but not decent enough to guarantee an early SG. I have always been in either B or C corrals in the past, so we will see what happens!

 

[DopeyBadger]

Which rides are doable during the marathon in place of Everest? Or do I just need to add another adult bev stop ?

TOT and RnR will both be open in DHS when the majority of runners get to the park. DHS opens at 9am. Sadly most years the park opened at 8am for EMH, but that doesn't appear to be the case per the current hours on Disney's site for this year. Looking at my 2020 spreadsheet shows that most of the runners aiming for a 4:20 or slower were the ones hitting DHS after 9am. So if you anticipate running faster than a 4:20 marathon, then you will be unlikely to ride RnR or TOT. When I make the spreadsheet for 2022, it'll give you a reasonably good idea of when you'll hit these milestones based on your estimated start time and estimated pace.