Marathon Weekend 2018

[Keels]

@croach - are you still willing to do a Character Alert text group?

 

[GollyGadget]

In addition to the things I had in last year's Marathon Weekend DIS List spreadsheet:

-Name (optional)
-DIS name
-Costume
-Corral
-Front/Middle/Back of corral
-Expected Pace
-Expected Start Time
-Milestone Timing

I've added a few new functionalities:
-Plan to attend pre-race meet-up (although if you say no, and then morning of decide to come you're always still welcome)
-For 10k, HM, and M - I added the Timing Mats that have been used in previous races. This would allow a spectator to calibrate my timing predictions live. If someone crossed a timing mat 10 minutes later than expected, then adjust all future predictions by 10 min. While runner tracking isn't perfect (sometimes there's a lag), it could be helpful info on day of.
-5K
--Highlighted finish if estimated to finish before 6:30am. Buses don't start running again until after 6:30am.

-10k
--Highlighted finish if estimated to finish before 7:00am. Buses don't start running again until after 7:00am.
--Highlighted finish if estimated to finish before 7:35am. Based on my personal experience, if a runner wishes to have spectators view them at the finish, and they are estimated to finish before 7:35am, then their spectators need to either get on the last spectator bus (5:00am) before they start re-running (7:00am) or have other transportation plans.

-HM
--Highlighted "Spaceship Earth" if estimated to hit this milestone after 9:00am. The park opens at 9:00am and would allow spectators with a valid park ticket to view you inside EPCOT.
--Highlighted finish if estimated to finish before 7:35am. Based on my personal experience, if a runner wishes to have spectators view them at the finish, and they are estimated to finish before 7:35am, then their spectators need to either get on the last spectator bus (5:00am) before they start re-running (7:00am) or have other transportation plans.

-M
--10.5 mile out and 11.5 mile back. During these two timing points you may cross paths with other DIS runners. Keep an eye for similar timing at this point in the race.
--Highlighted "EVEREST" if estimated to hit this milestone after 9:00am. The park opens at 9:00am and would allow spectators with a valid park ticket to view you inside AK. You also have the opportunity to ride Everest as it is close to the race course.
--17.3-17.7 enter WWOS and 20.5-21.2 exit WWOS. During these two timing points you may cross paths with other DIS runners. Keep an eye for similar timing at this point in the race.
--Highlighted "Enter TOT DHS" if estimated to hit this milestone after 9:00am. The park opens at 9:00am and would allow spectators with a valid park ticket to view you inside DHS. You also have the opportunity to ride either TOT or RnR as they are both close to the race course.
--Highlighted "EPCOT" if estimated to hit this milestone after 9:00am. The park opens at 9:00am and would allow spectators with a valid park ticket to view you inside EPCOT.

Are there any other timing milestones someone would want highlighted beyond these?

Thanks for coordinating all of this! DHS is scheduled to have EMH on Sunday; any onsite spectators could arrive early as 8. I'm not sure if the rides are an option for runners at that time or not.

 

[CherieFran]

Arrived in the mail this afternoon. Happy Hanukkah to me!

 

[croach]

Yep be happy to. Can use text or @FFigawi mentioned WhatsApp in case we had any international folks interested.

 

[Keels]

Yep be happy to. Can use text or @FFigawi mentioned WhatsApp in case we had any international folks interested.

Sweet! Now you definitely have to get to the races on time!

 

[croach]

Sweet! Now you definitely have to get to the races on time!

Oh boy. Set all the alarms!!

 

[courtneybeth]

5k and 10K corrals are A-F. Half and Full are A-H.

How do they typically move people around for Dopey with the 5K and 10K? I know it'll be difficult to be slotted because there's 5K and 10K registered only and they can estimate their times (hi, Mr CourtneyBeth), but how will we fit around them?


Edit: Now fixed - can't forget our friends in H, Sorry!

 

[rteetz]

5k and 10K corrals are A-F. Half and Full are A-G.

How do they typically move people around for Dopey with the 5K and 10K? I know it'll be difficult to be slotted because there's 5K and 10K registered only and they can estimate their times (hi, Mr CourtneyBeth), but how will we fit around them?

A-H

They fit based on our submitted times. There is a “dopey effect” though. @Keels and @DopeyBadger probably are better at that.

For example this past year I was E for 5K and 10K and then L for the half and full.

 

[DopeyBadger]

Thanks for coordinating all of this! DHS is scheduled to have EMH on Sunday; any onsite spectators could arrive early as 8. I'm not sure if the rides are an option for runners at that time or not.

Nice catch! Does anyone have reason to believe that a runner couldn't access the rides during early morning EMH? I know evening they tend to hand out wristbands (do they still do that?). But morning, I feel like if you're in the park, then you have access to EMH. But I'm willing to listen to otherwise.

5k and 10K corrals are A-F. Half and Full are A-G.

How do they typically move people around for Dopey with the 5K and 10K? I know it'll be difficult to be slotted because there's 5K and 10K registered only and they can estimate their times (hi, Mr CourtneyBeth), but how will we fit around them?

I tried to figure out the method. Now obviously the field of 5k/10k runners matters. So year to year it will vary. I feel as if the solo 5k/10k bibs are slotted into corrals first and then the Dopey bibs are spread from there. So since the corralling for solo 5k/10k runners is based on an estimated pace window like 7:00-8:00 min/mile or 10:00-11:00 min/mile, my guess is the following:

For solo event 5k or 10k bibs
A = 9:00 min/mile or faster
B = 9-10
C = 10-11
D = 11-12
E = 12-14
F = 14-16

Now I used the Dopey bibs from last year to try and assess how many Dopey runners fell into each corral. What I came up with (on very limited data) was it was pretty close to 1400 Dopeys in A, B, C, D, E and 1000 Dopeys in F. I'm not 100% on this method, but at the moment it's my best guess. I'm certainly willing to listen to opinions to the contrary. Something that meshes well with this system is that a person in 5k/10k corral B for Dopey has a POT that's generally pretty close to a 9-10 min/mile on a 5k/10k based on McMillan equivalency. So things seem to make sense.

 

[courtneybeth]

This is very valuable information - thank you @DopeyBadger and @rteetz . I put my husband into the 12-13 minute estimate since he's a little slower for the 5K and 10K (he is about a 13 minute mile), and now I'm wondering if we will be in the same corrals. He said that he'd move to me if I was further back but gave me the thumbs up to stay ahead of him as usual. Awww... such love

 

[Keels]

I'm going with crapshoot, mostly because I think only having up to Corral H for 22,000-26,000 runners for the half and full is just flat-out ridiculous.

 

[bellrae]

I was told first release of waivers by Friday when I was on the phone with Track Shack, so we’ll see!

Fingers crossed. I head to the US on Sunday morning Australian time and I'd love to be able to print it out before I depart!

 

[Sailormoon2]

Corral H for 22,000-26,000 runners for the half and full is just flat-out ridiculous.

Yep! Totally agree!

 

[cavepig]

Nice catch! Does anyone have reason to believe that a runner couldn't access the rides during early morning EMH? I know evening they tend to hand out wristbands (do they still do that?). But morning, I feel like if you're in the park, then you have access to EMH. But I'm willing to listen to otherwise.

For EMH they check that you are a resort guest before entering the tapstiles, so they scan your magic band. So, once in the park at ST they don't check again (unless it's changed recently) so I don't see why they couldn't hop on rides.

 

[VAfamily1998]

When will the last runners need to leave HS in order to stay ahead of the sweepers/finish within the time limits? Just curious when the course would be officially cleared from the park

 

[DopeyBadger]

When will the last runners need to leave HS in order to stay ahead of the sweepers/finish within the time limits? Just curious when the course would be officially cleared from the park

Unofficially and as an estimated guess based on:

-Balloon ladies starting at 6:35am
-Balloon ladies having a pace of 16 min/mile
-The exit of DHS being at ~23.3 miles

Is an estimated exit of DHS at 12:47pm.

 

[Goofy2015]

I like this Character Alert for the course. I am curious what characters to expect on the course. I am hoping for a ton of rare characters. Here is a list of characters that I would like to see (likely hood):

Darkwing Duck (4)
Launchpad McQuack (5)
Rescue Rangers Chip and Dale (3)
Huey, Louie, and Dewey (1)
Jiminy Cricket (5)
Mr Smee (6)
Tweedle Dee and Dum (7)
Big Bad Wolf (8)
Merlin (2)
Robin Hood (5)
Little John (3)
Prince Eric (6)
Cogsworth (6)
Lumiere (6)
Sebastian (4)
Timon (7)
John Smith (5)
Quasimodo (3)
Hercules (5)
Meg (4)
Hades (5)
Jafar (6)
Wreck It Ralph (8)
Flynn Ryder (6)

If anyone knows direct links to trip reports or recaps that cover characters that you see on the course that would be awesome!

 

[Goofy2015]

Also, some of my friends were wondering what food do they have available in the post race area both provided and for purchase. Like for the Half Marathons they give a box of like chips and squeeze stuff, which won't be enough for a post marathon snack. Didn't know if you could buy like a sandwich or something with more substance.

 

[GollyGadget]

Waivers link for Marathon Weekend. **Big Caveat- Info for 2018 is not uploaded yet. So check back.** Putting name and birthdate right now will pull up last year's if you were registered. https://www.trackshackresults.com/…/wa…/wavr18wdw/verify.php

I've been checking this site pretty obsessively, like once an hour, this morning and I just got a new message. Hoping this means they're loading the data!

 

[Ariel484]

Character line-ups can and do change. Of the ones on your list I have seen (personally or through other reports) Darkwing, Launchpad, Jiminy, Smee, Dee/Dum, Big Bad Wolf, Robin Hood, Little John, Sebastian, Timon, Jafar and Wreck-It Ralph during the January races.

I have seen (personally or through other reports) Prince Eric, Cogsworth, Lumiere, John Smith Hades and Meg, but they were at other race weekends.