Magic wearing off?

My first trip to WDW was in 1991 and I wan't impressed. Everything was run down and seemed old. It was when they had the sky ride through the park! In 2004 my dd 5 at the time I stayed at ASMo and we had a blast. Things seemed to be better maintained. We have gone in February. We went this year also and things seemed ok. We were at CBR in Barbados.

The trip we took in 2004 I was on another board and most of the post put down ASMo so bad, but we had no troubles. Sometimes I think it is the attitude we go into things with, that effects the quality of our vacation.

The biggest turn off for me is other rude guests that have the attitude that it's their vacation and they will do whatever they want regardless of others.
 
Not that it's a big deal, but:

You said: *Lack of magic or buyer's remorse...sticker shock after a trip has been known to lessen the overall appeal (think those CC bills in January ).

Our trip was very, very reasonable because of free dining - I can't think of anywhere else we could have gone with everything that was included for the price we paid. And, it was paid in advance. Absolutely NO credit cards to open for this one.

And:

You said: Must say I'm puzzled when someone complains about the lousy location they got @ a WDW resort, that's why they have "preferred" views/rooms prices...someone has to get the less desireable location - luck of the draw. We manage to have a great time whether we're @ the Values or Deluxe rooms, cannot expect a 5 star experience in a budget offering - even if it is Disney.


If you know anything about the CBR, you know that there are LOTS of rooms that are not preferred, but are NOT in Trinidad South. There were plenty of other places we could have been that would have made me very happy. As I've said earlier, this was our third trip to CBR and I've never paid for a preferred location and never been unhappy.

Once again, it's my OPINION that things have changed at WDW - and not really for the better. I'm not really angry about it. I'm disappointed. I don't understand why people reply in somewhat snide ways to explain to me all the reasons why I shouldn't blame Disney for anything that went wrong. Gosh - I'm glad you didn't want to "diminish" how I feel.
 
Man - Williamsfamily7 is really getting a bum rap! She very easily explained why she felt the way she did and for some unknown reason those that do not agree seem to want to make it her problem and should provide the extra "magic" because Disney can't do it all (or insert any other excuse you should provide for Disney right here). I agree that DISNEY has let DISNEY standards DROP!!! Disney hasn't done anything to affect how any other park is run - they can only run their own parks - DISNEY has let their park standard go down.
 
Sorry you had a less then magical trip. :sad2: When I go next time (hopefully in August of next year), I will go with little expectations. That way I cannot be disappointed. The more expectations people have, the more chances you have at becoming disappointed.

This quote from disneyfanfamily pretty much sums up what I consider the problem with most folks outlook on DW. I believe that folks spend so much time on these boards psyching themselves up with unreasonable and , frankly, unbelievable expectations they can only be disappointed when things don't work out as they envisioned. I'm sorry the OP had a less than perfect experience but some of the BS that is posted on these boards is obviously a stretch at best. The folks that claim they have been upgraded from AS sports to a suite at the GF or CR are just crazy. I'm sure this may have happened sometime in the history of DW but for people to expect this stuff is crazy. I realize that the majority understand this stuff just doesn't happen but, to the uninformed who swallow all of this it just makes them arrive with outrageous expectations.

Relax folks, you are on vacation. Smile and enjoy your family and friends and go with the flow. I believe Disney will become as magical or unmagical as you allow it.

Cheers,

Schuey
 

OP, sorry you had such a bad time. As for my husband and myself, we have never had a bad trip to WDW. We know we are blessed to get to go on vacation at all and don't let minor irritants ruin our trip. The only complaints I have about our Disney trips have nothing to do with WDW, just other guests.

If WDW is that much of a dissapointment to you then by all means never go back. Pick somewhere else to vacation.
 
schumacher said:
Sorry you had a less then magical trip. :sad2: When I go next time (hopefully in August of next year), I will go with little expectations. That way I cannot be disappointed. The more expectations people have, the more chances you have at becoming disappointed.

This quote from disneyfanfamily pretty much sums up what I consider the problem with most folks outlook on DW. I believe that folks spend so much time on these boards psyching themselves up with unreasonable and , frankly, unbelievable expectations they can only be disappointed when things don't work out as they envisioned. I'm sorry the OP had a less than perfect experience but some of the BS that is posted on these boards is obviously a stretch at best. The folks that claim they have been upgraded from AS sports to a suite at the GF or CR are just crazy. I'm sure this may have happened sometime in the history of DW but for people to expect this stuff is crazy. I realize that the majority understand this stuff just doesn't happen but, to the uninformed who swallow all of this it just makes them arrive with outrageous expectations.

Relax folks, you are on vacation. Smile and enjoy your family and friends and go with the flow. I believe Disney will become as magical or unmagical as you allow it.
Cheers,

Schuey


I have to agree with your post and especially the part about unbelievable expectations. I have seen way too many times people ask about free upgrades, towel animals, and assorted other perks. I once fell into that trap when I used to just lurk on these boards and before I became a member. I had some good service but when you go to WDW and expect "Pixie dust" at every moment, you're going to be disapointed. Now that I think of it, I never did get a towel animal in all of my visits, hmmm...... :teeth:

When it comes to WDW, there's no doubt that it's a great place for a family to go to and there's no other place quite like it. It does have it's limitations though and for some the magic can wear off quicker than others. I also don't look at WDW in the same light as I did when I got back from my first trip in 89, but still have no desire to take my family anyplace else. When you look at the other theme parks in the USA, they just don't hold up too well when compared to Disney World.

I do think that price is a big factor for some and it's only going to get worse as time goes by. With the way WDW is raising ticket prices, I wonder how much it will be in 10 years from now? I bet that Disney will still pack them in though.
 
monorailsilver said:
Then we had a life guard problem. After 3 or 4 days of swimming the lifeguard told me my ds (who was just under 2) could not swim with a tube & swimmies. But that is how he felt comfortable in the pool & I was right there with him. It wasn't like I was just letting him toodle (OH TOOTLES, my kids watch The Mickey Mouse Clubhouse) away on his own. And she should have been greatful that I was doing all I could to protect my child from drowning on her watch. Plus there were no signs stateing I couldn't use both.

Then when we were in the MK, my ds who is a bit timid wanted to sit on my lap (not to mention he was barely 20 lbs at 22 months old, basically tiny & short) on the Tomorrowland Speedway. So they let me go with him on my lap & then I got stopped by a CM & I refused to move if I put him on the seat.

Needless to say those few things ruined the 'magic' in my eyes. I had a letter I was going to write & never finished it.


(Bolding by me, not op)

It would be very hard for WDW to keep visitors coming if everyone let small things like this "ruin the 'magic'"! It sounds like the CMs were just trying to enforce the rules :confused3
 
PamNC said:
it comes and goes. We've been going since 1994, at least once a year. We've had trips that were totally magical and some trips where we have noticed a decline in the Disney-ish service. For instance, in the summer of 2005 we were quite amazed at the decline in the service at the restaurants. Had a horrible experience at Citricos, treated like a second class citizen to eat mediocre food. It was horrific. We noticed some not so stellar CM's during this trip. Didn't ruin the trip at all, we just noticed it. Then, we went to POR and WOW! the CM's there were amazing. One day as we were walking to the main area a CM was apparently checking the rooms. He spotted us and said, "good morning, thank you so much for staying with us at Port Orleans!" We also stayed at the Dolphin later in 2005, and the "staff" (can't call them CMs now can we?!) was fantastic. Better than many CM's.

So, in short, I think if you tend to go often you will eventually have a "not-so-perfect" trip. I think we're our own worst enemies sometimes and without really knowing it, we look for problems. Myself included. Expectations are so high for a Disney vacation. As with everything in life, it is what you make it. HOWEVER, I'm not excusing rude CM's or bad service by any means.

And, I don't buy into the argument of "go to your local amusement park and see if that doesn't restore your faith in Disney." You're comparing apples to oranges there. I wouldn't expect Carowinds to live up to Disney expectations. By the same token, I expect Disney to far far far surpass Carowinds. And, honestly, it usually does.

I also agree that guests, if you let them, can ruin the magic. Most of the time guests are the source of my frustration...not CMs. I feel sorry for the CMs having to put up with some of the world's pathetic people.

In the end, I'm still a Disney-holic. And I'm sure I'll encounter another rude CM and another bad restaurant. It sure sounds like Tokyo Disney is superb, but I have no desire to fly to Tokyo right now. So, I'll find the magic when I go until there is no magic left to be found.

Heck, every day of my life is MAGIC.

PamNC

I couldn't have said it better. :)
 
You don't come off as a cranky complainer. You are showing us what you were displeased with. As a paying guest you have every right to expect certain levels of comfort and service.

I've never been to WDW and my first trip is late october. I don't plan on staying in the luxury resorts. I will be at FW. My expectatations are going to much less than yours because I've never brought kids to the park multiple times or seen the services drop as you have. I'm going with a open mindset concerning crowds, lines and services. I don't expect much as to food service, especially if I were there during a time they were giving free dining to resort guest. If I were a waiter or waitress I might tire of the free dining.

Cranky complainer no but everyone has different expectations and they aren't all like yours.

Jim
 
Sammie said:
I am sorry, but read these forums long enough and you will see a glimpse of what they have to deal with.


:thumbsup2 Amen to that! I treat every CM I encounter the same way I would like to be treated myself. I have never had a bad CM experience, either in the parks or the resorts. A smile goes a long way! :)


As to the general condition and cleanliness of the property. I have seen a difference. Is it enough to affect my good time? No, at least not yet. I do worry a bit about the future CM shortage, but I have faith that things will never be allowed to deteriorate to a point where it will have a major impact on the guests.
 
Williamsfamily7 said:
Not that it's a big deal, but:

You said: *Lack of magic or buyer's remorse...sticker shock after a trip has been known to lessen the overall appeal (think those CC bills in January ).

Our trip was very, very reasonable because of free dining - I can't think of anywhere else we could have gone with everything that was included for the price we paid. And, it was paid in advance. Absolutely NO credit cards to open for this one.

And:

You said: Must say I'm puzzled when someone complains about the lousy location they got @ a WDW resort, that's why they have "preferred" views/rooms prices...someone has to get the less desireable location - luck of the draw. We manage to have a great time whether we're @ the Values or Deluxe rooms, cannot expect a 5 star experience in a budget offering - even if it is Disney.

If you know anything about the CBR, you know that there are LOTS of rooms that are not preferred, but are NOT in Trinidad South. There were plenty of other places we could have been that would have made me very happy. As I've said earlier, this was our third trip to CBR and I've never paid for a preferred location and never been unhappy.

Once again, it's my OPINION that things have changed at WDW - and not really for the better. I'm not really angry about it. I'm disappointed. I don't understand why people reply in somewhat snide ways to explain to me all the reasons why I shouldn't blame Disney for anything that went wrong. Gosh - I'm glad you didn't want to "diminish" how I feel.

I was very clear in stating that I, in no way, meant to belittle your "feelings", they're yours - you own them:thumbsup2 .

Congrats on the great deal including "free" dining you snagged, should have helped make the whole trip a little sweeter IMO.:) BTW, lots of folks have reported being able to afford a pref. room upcharge or even a different class of resort w/the savings from the DP.

As for your encounter with less desireable rooms on your 3rd trip to CBR, I suggest you peruse the Unofficial Guide, they have a resort specific list of buildings/rooms to avoid. Each resort, even the deluxes, have rooms that are less than desireable in many guests' minds (views, distance from bus stops, etc.). There are resources out there that can be a wealth of info for planning...which is great insurance to remove any hidden variables (crowds, less-than-stellar dining venues, etc.) that might lessen the enjoyment factor of any given trip.

Feel free to blame who-ever you choose for whatever:confused3 I have always expected a very high level of magic for the premium price I pay to visit WDW & always have received what I feel to be a great return for my vacation $...from the values to the deluxe resorts (albiet more up-scale experience as to amenities @ the more pricey digs).
 
Ok I must say that after only visiting Disney for the last couple of years they have it hands down in comparison to other parks. Just visited one of those Six Flags and let me tell you. Disney on its worst day is 100 times better. I found that all the employees were rude. One cleaning lady knocked our fries on the ground and told us to go get some new ones our self for free of course but she didnt have time to interupt her cleaning duties. Of tables people were eating at. Bathrooms smelled like a disaster zone. Overflowing with trash and dirty baby diapers. Line cutters that were cursing. Just an overall bad day and waste of $100 bucks. Not to mention the $32 bucks spent on lunch for 2 adults and a toddler. We are talking burgers and fries here. Believe me nothing in Disney could ever be this bad. My eyes are definately opened a bit. I am not defending Disney because in reality yes things have slipped a little but it is a drop in the bucket compared to other places.
 
I can't speak for anyone else, but the only stuff taking away "magic" from our last trip were some other guests, not Disney.

I wrote about it in a trip report but I can't believe how many people will leave/throw down their trash and cigaratte butts, and use four letter words in the happiest place on earth. I don't blame Disney when the resort is a capacity and it's hard to keep up with those inconsiderate guests.

If I could've gotten rid of the lazy, foul mouthed people our magic would've been perfect :thumbsup2 Still, we had a great time and I did my best to ignore "those" people.
 
IWISHFORDISNEY said:
Ok I must say that after only visiting Disney for the last couple of years they have it hands down in comparison to other parks. Just visited one of those Six Flags and let me tell you. Disney on its worst day is 100 times better.

It's interesting that forum posters seem to point to the condition of other amusement parks ,to justify the current condition of Disney. When I'm on vacation, the other parks and places don't matter. The here and now is relevant on vacation. I don't care about Universal, Hershey Park, Sesame Place, Dorney Park and Great Flags when I'm at Disney. I'll be comparing my future Disney trip to our 2004 experience but I won't be comparing Disney to the other parks I mentioned.

If Disney standards in service and cleanliness continue to go downhill, it won't be too long before this will be pointed out by travel critics such as Frommers and Conde Naste. That negative buzz will hurt Disney's image and may effect their bottom line.I hope that never get to that point. I think Disney is a savvy enough corporation where the bumps in their roads will be fixed ,before the travel critics point it out to them on TV and in print. Disney also raised their park rates a few weeks ago . Hopefully they will start picking up the trash more often and fix the nooks and crannies.Disney Corp is getting the big bucks every day with their theme parks, merchandising, movies and TV channels .
 
lyzziesmom said:
You want to recapture the Disney magic? Take a few trips to other local amusement parks. I don't mean the big ones like Universal or Six Flags, I'm talking the little local places that every state has. It will really make you appreciate how much Disney DOES do.

I don't pay a fortune to get into those little parks and base a 10 day vacation around them so I am expecting a whole lot more.
 
Williamsfamily7 said:
Is it me, or does anyone else feel like the magic might be wearing off a little at WDW?

I've been on these boards twice since our return (8/13 - 8/20) and both times have been to complain. Once about our horrible location at CBR (Trinidad SOuth = BAD), and once about how stinky I think the EMH's are. At this point, I really can't imagine going back for our next visit for a long, long time (Read that as when my kids - currently 15 and 16 years old - are grown, gone, and have kids of their own that we can bring!!)

This was our fifth trip in about the past 12 years. I'm sorry, but the Disney experience just is NOT what it used to be. I'm not talking about getting goosebumps from watching the fireworks, or still loving "It's a Small World." We really enjoyed Soarin' and the daredevils loved Exp. Everest. All that stuff is still A1.

It's just the way Disney used to treat you, as compared to how they treat you now. Here are my thoughts:

Other than our first night there (when we had an absolutely wonderful waiter named Robert at Boatwrights), our waiters/waitresses were average at best. The one at the Yachtclub was well below average to be honest with you. And the hostess at the Concourse Steakhouse bordered on rude.

Beside my unhappiness with Trinidad South at CBR, I had (unfortunately) 3 other occasions to call for customer service. The first time was because our refrigerator wasn't working. It took 3 calls to get someone there, and then they basically insisted the refrigerator was working. I think they left another one just to humor us. The bottom line is, the original one (which they left)was in our room the entire week and never worked. It just wasn't what I would call great customer service.

Our second problem had to do with 2 people in our party's luggage being delivered via Magical Express. All I'm going to say is that their plane arrived at 4:40 p.m. on Sunday, and were down at the Custom House at 9:30 a.m. the next morning TO PICK IT UP. (OK - maybe I'll mention the numerous phone calls we made all through the night, each time NOT getting a straight answer.) I did convince a manager that we needed some type of "compensation" to make up for our total inconvenience (EVERYTHING was in the checked bags, including medications!). In the end, I'm not crazy about how they handled the situation in general. In my opinion, it's the manager's job to see that you have a positive feeling after a situation like that. I KNOW it's not his fault, but guess what, it's not my fault either. And I'm the one paying lots of money to be on vacation!!!

Lastly, I did laundry one day. The change machine was out of order. Unfortunately, the $10 in quarters I brought from home was not enough. I called to ask about getting change and they promised to send someone over immediately. Again, 3 calls later, they're telling me someone came and there was no one there to give the change to. I had not MOVED from that laundry room. I was actually sitting reading a book in the laundry room for 1/2 hour. That is really NOT what I paid money for. Finally, I spoke to a manager (seems to be the only way to get anything done), and he did send someone down. It seems the first person they sent was new and went twice to Trinidad North by mistake. Now I understand that even Disney has new employees, but really, that's pretty ridiculous.

I found that very often things at the parks seemed a little more disorganized - especially the handing out of bracelets for EMH. How do they "run out" at one location and then just not know what to tell people as far as where to go. They were leading us around the park like a bunch of cattle at one point!! When we were waiting to get into "Honey I Shrunk the Audience" someone had messed with the ropes that keep the lines in order. There was no one from Disney there at all, and people were just milling all over and totally cutting in line. Right before they let us in they sent some tiny little girl to try to get the line in the right direction, but half the people wouldn't even listen to her. Alot of people were pretty annoyed at how it was handled.

Lastly, on two different occassions I saw totally overflowing garbage cans with all sorts of over-flow trash on the ground. Granted, it was close to closing time, but I just never saw things like that during past visits.

I'm sure many people will think I'm being too critical. Maybe each of these things sound trivial on there own, but put them all together and it does add up. I guess what I'm saying is that I've just come to expect a more "magical" vacation when I'm at WDW. I'm sorry, but I DO expect more from them. I think they have let things slide alittle.



Hi,
I just returned (8/20/06-8/30/06) and this was my 18th trip to WDW. I agree that certain things have changed. I did not allow anything get in the way of having a wonderful time on our vacation since I cannot control how people treat me, but I can control how I react to them.

I did notice that the bathrooms in EPCOT world showcase weren't as clean as before -- Germany's was downright deplorable even though there was an attendant on duty. Garbage cans were overflowing in Typhoon Lagoon in the Leaning Palms, and at the Flame Tree in the Animal Kingdom when we were there. We couldn't get my nephew a chocolate milk with counter service, so we just paid for it. The gal said only "white milk" was allowable. That was the first and only time that happened.

We came across quite a few CM's from the "old school" that were just so wonderful, but we equally came across some down right uncaring CM's.

In one instance, I was trying to explain to the hotel (POR) concerige that we were charged for five soft drinks (as printed on our receipt) when it should have been included in our table service meal at Alfredo's (I didn't notice it at first because we ordered an extra appetizer--and some of our appetizers never came!). She kept insisting they were "drinks". She didn't understand that they were non-alcoholic and kept insisting "drinks" were not allowable under the dining plan. I kept showing her the receipt that said "soft drinks" and she still didn't understand. I finally gave up. Insult to injury, three of us had water because they were out of iced tea -- so in reality we were charged for water.

We had two rooms and housekeeping was hit and miss, but we generally keep things in order since I can't stand a messy room.

One day, we were sitting at the food court at POR and the gal just came up and started spritzing the table to clean it while we were sitting there. Couldn't figure out what that was about. We were hoping that was only water in her sprayer.

New to us were health issues. The bones in my husband's ankles collapsed and needs an operation. However, that can't happen until the sores on his foot heal. I called before hand and spoke to the special needs department, asking for their assistance, prior to our arrival. They assured me that they would arrange to have us near a bus stop/food court. That never materialized. At the hotel, they asked us to call daily to see if they could accomodate us, but each day I called, they couldn't, so we finally gave up after several days. That was somewhat unsettling because he wasn't going to go along, but I convinced him that Disney is accommodating and I made the arrangements.

We had wonderful meals and service at Narcoose's and the Coral Reef as well as Boatrights. Wolfgang Pucks and Planet Hollywood were also fun and good. Cap N Jacks was good as well. We only had difficulty at Alfredo's. Beside the soft drinks we we charged also for something called "lunch" and I was never able to get that resolved. We were there for dinner. It was an 8:30 reservation and they didn't take us until very late and they were out of a lot of stuff -- including iced tea! They brought us our meals before the appetizers, then insisted we already had the appetizers. I think they were just hurrying because it was late, but I wish they wouldn't have taken us if they couldn't accommodate us. They charged too many table services for our meals (10 instead of 7). It was just one big mess, and even though we were light hearted about it and not complaining, they didn't try to resolve anything so we just took it up with guest services at the hotel later--we just wanted to leave. It was difficult, we didn't get what we ordered but yet they made us feel we did something wrong. And believe me, we are not loud and aggressive and took everything in stride without a negative tone. Perhaps we should be different but it is not our nature. We are an extremely quiet family.

On the positive side, it is Disney, it is fun, and I'm a diehard Disney groupie, but this time around, it was a different feel. We enjoyed ourselves but yet it was stressful compared to past trips. Generally, we go at least every year, but I think I will sit back awhile. As a rule, I miss being there right away, I don't feel like that anymore.
 
Ok no need to get all rude about it. I am just saying we paid more money to get into this place and got horrible service. Not comparing anything here just pointing out things could be worse. Sorry if it came across that way.
 
I have been going every year for the last 12+ years.

While I've bumped into rude CMs or People or whatever, I do not let that ruin it for me.

I don't come back from my trip with a list of items that bothered me. Why focus on things? Sure, sometimes things happen that are annoying, but I just can't let those things "stick" and ruin my trip. There are way more fun and happy things that happen during a trip then the opposite.

As a person said above, I can control how I react to things.

Sometimes coming to the boards and reading people complain can make you focus on these things when you go on your trip. It's easy to get caught up in negativity sometimes.

I'm not saying there isn't room for improvement at Disney, but it's still magical for me.
 
My wife and I try to make at least 2 trips to WDW every year . The magic is just as strong as it was the first time we went. I agree that there are certain things that they could improve on but I just let it go since I am in the happiest place on earth. most of the CM's we have dealt with our always very helpful . WDW is our place. We sayed at the AKL for the first time last year and we had a wonderful time. We always try to find new things to do on each trip also. We will be back again in October for the F&W festival and again in early December for the Christmas season. :)
 


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