Magic Bands and New Annual Passes

. . . . . Every linked MB is linked to ONE person, that person's tickets and that person's finger scan. Even if you buy new tickets it is still linked to that finger scan.
Not arguing, but asking - do we know for sure that the account keeps its finger scan data when old tickets are used up and a new one is added? It seems *likely* that it would, but I can see it going either way.
 
Not arguing, but asking - do we know for sure that the account keeps its finger scan data when old tickets are used up and a new one is added? It seems *likely* that it would, but I can see it going either way.

Am sure someone in tickets could pipe in but ....... I believe the scan is attached to you in MDE, so any media (tickets/MagicBands) attached to you is by default attached to the scan. Especially being that I have heard of no one able to reassign a MB legally or not.
 
Am sure someone in tickets could pipe in but ....... I believe the scan is attached to you in MDE, so any media (tickets/MagicBands) attached to you is by default attached to the scan. Especially being that I have heard of no one able to reassign a MB legally or not.
Mostly I'm wondering what would happen if I bought a ticket for someone else, added it to my own MyDEx, then let them take my band on a trip I was not part of. Anything they did would show up as being "me", but the ticket would be one that legitimately belonged to person number 2.
If there's one thing I've learned about Disney, especially when it comes to IT, it's that just because something makes sense, and there's no reason to expect it wouldn't be done a certain way, doesn't mean I should assume that it actually *IS* done that way. (Wow, gotta parse all the negatives in that sentence carefully!)
 
What I have gathered here is that you plan to go to the ticket counter and purchase FL resident tickets for your out of state relatives and work around the system by putting the tickets on a new magic band assigned to you. I am pretty sure the finger scan is attached to you MDE account, not the band.
 

Mostly I'm wondering what would happen if I bought a ticket for someone else, added it to my own MyDEx, then let them take my band on a trip I was not part of. Anything they did would show up as being "me", but the ticket would be one that legitimately belonged to person number 2.

Are you talking about doing this with FL resident tickets? If so, this would not work since the "someone else" would have to show ID, and the names would not match.

What I have gathered here is that you plan to go to the ticket counter and purchase FL resident tickets for your out of state relatives and work around the system by putting the tickets on a new magic band assigned to you. I am pretty sure the finger scan is attached to you MDE account, not the band.

My understanding was that the finger scan was attached to a ticket, not a band nor an account, but that could be incorrect. And I also think your scenario wouldn't work because to activate those tickets, the holders (no matter whose MagicBand they are holding) would have to show Florida ID with a matching name to the account.
 
Are you talking about doing this with FL resident tickets? If so, this would not work since the "someone else" would have to show ID, and the names would not match.
No - my query is solely related to the question of how finger scans are associated, and whether they are done anew when a band uses a new ticket in replacement for an older, fully-consumed ticket.
 
No - my query is solely related to the question of how finger scans are associated, and whether they are done anew when a band uses a new ticket in replacement for an older, fully-consumed ticket.

The ticket scans are associated with individual ticket media. The first time you enter a park utilizing a particular ticket or pass, the finger scan is associated with that particular ticket or pass. Then the following times you enter a park using that ticket or pass, the finger scan is verified against the record of your original finger scan for that particular ticket or pass. As I understand it, once a ticket or pass expires, the finger scan associated with it is deleted.

The finger scans are not associated with MagicBands directly. They're associated with ticket media that themselves are associated to an individual's MDE account. if you didn't have a ticket or pass in your MDE account, then there would be no finger scan of yours saved in your MDE account, or associated in any way with your MagicBand. Of course, you also wouldn't be able to enter a theme park, either.

But none of that means Disney would not necessarily be able to determine that a MagicBand was being used with two different tickets with two different finger scans. A lot goes on in the background. There are instances where Disney references a group of tickets purchased together with a group of finger scans associated with those tickets.

For example, if a family of four that is linked together in MDE buys four tickets and enters the park with four finger scans, that same family can subsequently enter a park using the same four tickets and the same four finger scans, but each person using another family member's ticket. In other words, meaning on that second entrance, all four tickets and finger scans would be mixed up. Disney's computer system can catch that, and as long as one of the tickets and one of the finger scans from the original park entry is recognized, that person is allowed into the park by the system. So all four of those family members individually would be allowed in. The system does that so that harried parents won't be barred with their children from park entry just because they accidentally give the wrong child the wrong ticket or MagicBand. That's also why Disney allows parents to use their adult finger scan if their child's finger won't work the scanner.

So, pretty much, attempting to flout the system in anyway opens up a whole can of worms regarding how Disney cross-references for use-control purposes finger scans, ticket media, and linked MDE accounts. There's a lot more going on in the background than simply a single ticket or pass indirectly associated with a single MagicBand.

However, you have to be aware that Disney's terms of use state that MagicBands are just as nontransferable as ticket media. Disney may not crack down on the practice of sharing MagicBands when people are simply sharing FastPass reservations once they are already in a park, or as stated above allow finger scans and ticket media to be mixed and matched when a linked family is on vacation at the same time (the latter equating to allowing in limited circumstances the mixing and matching of MagicBands since that's how most people enter the parks.) But anything beyond this and you're running a risk of ticket media confiscation and potential penalties for the actual MB owner as well.

The specific reason MagicBands are nontransferable is so that people don't allow other people to enter the parks with them. So it feels to me like this detour that this thread has taken is essentially a discussion of how to bypass Disney's terms of use for MBs and ticket media, or in other words, "How do I break the rules and get away with it?"

FWIW, this is exactly why Disneyland cast members take your picture when you enter the Anaheim parks for the first time on a multi-day ticket or an annual pass. That's rumored to eventually happen for passholders at Walt Disney World.
 
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MagicBands technically can be re-assigned by Guest Relations, but they generally need to have a good reason. Like, I bought a Princess MB for my daughter and a Star Wars MB for my son, and accidentally linked them up wrong. Not, I have this old one and I want to give it to my friend.
 
MagicBands technically can be re-assigned by Guest Relations, but they generally need to have a good reason. Like, I bought a Princess MB for my daughter and a Star Wars MB for my son, and accidentally linked them up wrong. Not, I have this old one and I want to give it to my friend.

So in rare circumstance with compelling and valid reason a Guest Relations person can change the person on the MB.

Does owner of MB have to be there to acknowledge taking their name off of it (if adults, I get parents can do)?

Sounds like PP wants to take his existing MB, add a ticket to it and let someone else go in as him but with their new ticket/finger scan ............

I guess I would ask is why? Is there a benefit here I am missing other than guest not wanting to spend $13 on a MB they don't even need.
 
I guess I would ask is why? Is there a benefit here I am missing other than guest not wanting to spend $13 on a MB they don't even need.

Op has not overtly said this, but from their previous question about letting someone else use their annual pass, the impression some of us are getting is that op intends
To buy a FL resident ticket using his/her FL resident ID. Then op intends to add it to their MDE and let their cousin use op's old
MB to use the FL resident ticket.
 
So, pretty much, attempting to flout the system in anyway opens up a whole can of worms regarding how Disney cross-references for use-control purposes finger scans, ticket media, and linked MDE accounts. There's a lot more going on in the background than simply a single ticket or pass indirectly associated with a single MagicBand.
And this is pretty much the gist of my curiosity - not because I'm planning on doing it, as I don't have any friends who go to WDW, but because I'm really curious about learning the details of how the system works under the hood. We can speculate about what they *can* do, or debate about what they "ought to" do, but I'm curious about what they actually *do*.

There's actually a very simple way to test this question, in a way that involves no gaming of the system whatsoever. For years, I've used my right index finger for my finger scans. On my next trip, in January, using a new ticket, I can do my very first scan with another finger. If the system remembers my old scan, it may or may not raise a red flag, even though I'm using a ticket that has never had a scan associated with it. (I'm assuming I can always ask a CM to do a new scan if I want to return to the index finger.)
 
Op has not overtly said this, but from their previous question about letting someone else use their annual pass, the impression some of us are getting is that op intends
To buy a FL resident ticket using his/her FL resident ID. Then op intends to add it to their MDE and let their cousin use op's old
MB to use the FL resident ticket.

This part of the thread has nothing to do with the OP and their situation. A PP is asking questions specific to letting someone else use their MB and their MDE with a new ticket. You'll have to scroll up for convo.

A Cast Member who works in the area has weighed in on the conversation already so I'll just leave it at that point.
 
There's actually a very simple way to test this question, in a way that involves no gaming of the system whatsoever. For years, I've used my right index finger for my finger scans. On my next trip, in January, using a new ticket, I can do my very first scan with another finger.

I can save you the trouble. I switched fingers last trip, because I had a new Apple Watch, so I started wearing my MagicBand on my other wrist, and changed my finger scan to the other hand. No red flags, no problems getting into any park that trip. (And I use about 4 MagicBands interchangeably on every trip.)
 
they are Fla residents and adults. They are deciding between a one day ticket or the 3 day Fla resident- they aren't Dis people (yet!) so don't know which way to go. I told her decide by the end of the week so I can get them their tickets...so if I order for them do I need the driver's lic numbers or something? Or they will show their id at the turnstile ? Or pick them up at will call and they show id there? The main this is to get them bought online so I can link tix to their name for fast pass.

And---- in Nov my 24 DD and her BF are coming down on Fri Nov 11-- Veteran's day and Jersey week. We will drive from Tampa airport with them around 1230 to the park and go to I think MK...I will get their tix online also (not Fla res) and link so I can make FP. But- how is it going to be that day-- super crowded cause a holiday and Jers Week? and a Fri? We wont be there til closing Im sure, which is at 7 cause there is Xmas party that night...might help with crowd levels?
 

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