Mac or PC?

[bicker]

I have no clue what SalesLogix CRM is, if you could explain it to me, I'm sure I could find a Mac alternative.

Uh, what good is an alternative when the company uses that product?

I'm pretty sure Oracle has a version for Mac OS X Server, so yeah, it'll run on a Mac.

Nope. Linux, Windows, AIX, Solaris, and HP-UX.

Nero. Well, there's Toast, iMovie, iDVD, etc.(I could go on and on about these.)

But we use Nero at work.

 

[bicker]

In emulation mode, yes, you are correct. However you can run Windows natively on a Mac if you need that extra speed.

At which point, Macintosh is just another (expensive) vendor of PCs. It would be less expensive to just purchase a PC.

 

[dcentity2000]

At which point, Macintosh is just another (expensive) vendor of PCs. It would be less expensive to just purchase a PC.

Happily, I find no major occasion to use Windows over OSX.

Mind you, I do miss the structure and functionality of both BeOS and RISC OS...



Rich::

 

[bicker]

Sorry for the double post, but many companies are already using OSX, it is a HUGE contender to Microsoft and is growing very rapidly.

That's a little like saying that Luxembourg is growing very rapidly; interesting, but the United States has little to be concerned about from Luxembourg.

91.17% Windows. At the rate Mac is growing, we'll be retired before it has a chance of catching up.

 

[OneDisney]

Uh, what good is an alternative when the company uses that product?

Nope. Linux, Windows, AIX, Solaris, and HP-UX.

But we use Nero at work.

You seem to not be able to grasp this. What I'm trying to say is, they do the same thing, but it's a different application. IF the company were to switch over to macs, they wouldn't have to compromise anything.

Oracle - http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/macos/index.html

Once again, Nero and Toast do the same thing. What's not to get?

That's a little like saying that Luxembourg is growing very rapidly; interesting, but the United States has little to be concerned about from Luxembourg.

91.17% Windows. At the rate Mac is growing, we'll be retired before it has a chance of catching up.

Where'd you get that tiny graphic from? Is that even recent?

 

[dcentity2000]

EDIT - got it wrong



Rich::

 

[bicker]

You seem to not be able to grasp this.

I think you are the one not grasping what I'm saying. The issue is that most software is written for Microsoft Windows. Major applications that are used by people everyday are not available on OSX.

Oracle - http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/macos/index.html

That's Oracle 10. That's the previous generation.

Once again, Nero and Toast do the same thing. What's not to get?

I get that you love Mac. My company isn't going to want to pay twice for software because some people love Mac, though. Since most people have Microsoft Windows at home, that's the software they're going to have in-house, and the software they'll make available for folks at home offices.

Where'd you get that tiny graphic from? Is that even recent?

Fortune Magazine, June 1, 2008.

 

[diznygirl]

Crunching the numbers:

48 are Happy Mac Users. 13 use both but like Mac better, 1 uses a PC but wishes they had a Mac, and 3 might consider switching.

Update: Make that 49 Happy Mac Users.


On the other hand - there are 30 Happy PC Users, 2 that use both and like the PC better, 1 Mac user that wishes they had a PC , and 1 who uses a PC and doesn't like it but doesn't want a Mac.

I'm not counting the Others here.

That is 66 to 34 - Mac in the lead.

 

[OneDisney]

I think you are the one not grasping what I'm saying. The issue is that most software is written for Microsoft Windows. Major applications that are used by people everyday are not available on OSX.
That's Oracle 10. That's the previous generation.

Umm.. you gave me 3 applications. They all have Mac versions, except one of them is behind a version, which I'm sure will be updated some time soon.

I get that you love Mac. My company isn't going to want to pay twice for software because some people love Mac, though. Since most people have Microsoft Windows at home, that's the software they're going to have in-house, and the software they'll make available for folks at home offices.Fortune Magazine, June 1, 2008.

Toast is $10 more than Nero. Not "double the price".
Also, your graph doesn't even have a title. It could be computer repairs.

 

[bicker]

Umm.. you gave me 3 applications.

I gave you three applications chosen at random. I don't think it makes sense to spend a lot of time listing dozens of applications. That's not what I consider an interesting discussion.

They all have Mac versions, except one of them is behind a version, which I'm sure will be updated some time soon.

Your confidence is impressive, but the other two don't have Mac versions. You mentioned completely different applications that people would have to purchase. And in one case, that's not practical, because the application is an enterprise application: You'd have to get everyone in your company, and the company itself, to switch!!!!!! (This shouldn't be that hard to understand...)

Also, your graph doesn't even have a title. It could be computer repairs.

The graph shows OS deployment penetration. OSX is less than 8%.

 

[OneDisney]

I gave you three applications chosen at random. I don't think it makes sense to spend a lot of time listing dozens of applications. That's not what I consider an interesting discussion.

Either way, I found 3 alternatives very quickly.

Your confidence is impressive, but the other two don't have Mac versions. You mentioned completely different applications that people would have to purchase. And in one case, that's not practical, because the application is an enterprise application: You'd have to get everyone in your company, and the company itself, to switch!!!!!! (This shouldn't be that hard to understand...)

Why does it matter if they're the EXACT(I can use font styles too) same? They get the same thing done, and they're almost the same price. There are also other applications out there for Mac that get the same thing done, and have enterprise versions. I won't list them, because I you don't consider that an interesting discussion.

The graph shows OS deployment penetration. OSX is less than 8%.

Yeah, there's no title on that graph. Like I said, for all I know, it could mean computer repairs.

 

[bicker]

It doesn't. It means OS deployment penetration, as I said earlier.

 

[JimFitz]

Want a MAC but have a PC. Won't switch until this PC croaks and I have to get a new one. MAC's are growing in Marketshare but they are not being widely accepted in corporate America.