LOVE or HATE FP+ Anyone's mind been changed ??

[Cee]

I never used FP before. The past three trips we've done FP+. Love. It.

 

[cakebaker]

Not saying that at all. I am saying that I could replicate your "awesome" day, quite easily in fact. Maybe the times woul match. Maybe they wouldn't. But that is not relevant. There is nothing that you could do on your awesome day that I would have been precluded from doing. And then, after your awesome day was over, I would invite you to take your smartphone with you and join me at Epcot for my awesome day. And I would get a FP for both Soarin' and Test Track. And I would watch as you struggle to accomplish the same thing.

Maybe not relevant to you, but it certainly is to me. If I want to tour the parks the way I think works best for us, then the time of day I can access a fp for them means everything. A FP that can be pulled at a time I will not be there is the same thing as not having one. And when the fp ran out before the time I wanted to be at a park, then I'm locked out of riding that other than in a late day standby line. Not exactly awesome.

You said you could replicate- you can't. You could not get me fp's anywhere in the block of time I needed them to be.

I don't want to pull a fp at 10am and stay in the park for 4 hrs waiting to ride it.

 

[dayvewc]

Just tried again:

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Certainly seems odd that on a Wednesday in late February both TSMM and ToT would no longer be available the day before for 3. So much for any FP's being "held back".


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totally off topic

what kind of monitor are you using (or settings) that you can get that height? I'm about to upgrade from my CRT, and definitely want something better. That screen grab looks like it might be a useful size.

 

[Laketravis]

I don't want to pull a fp at 10am and stay in the park for 4 hrs waiting to ride it.

Yet that might be preferable to some who can't get an FP at all the day before (see previous post).



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[Lisa loves Pooh]

That is a terrible system. I have one day at one park in which I only want one fast pass for one ride and two other ones show up. I would much rather get the one fast pass and then get others while at the park. Very bad system in which you have to take two fast passes for rides you can either walk up to or won't ride at all and you only get one more the rest of the day. I think I will just wing it when I get there. What is the difference between having no fast passes and two you won't use?

I am so sorry this will not work for you.

We have simply moved FP to other attractions when we discovered it was not needed at all.

I was under the assumption you wanted just ONE fast pass at all.

If you find no line when you arrive, simply change your fast pass to something else.
We have done this without issue.
(Or in some cases, we moved the time for rides the family wanted to ride a second time. If to continued to not be necessary, we change the ride.)

I am not sure there is a difference except that it seems you would rather "hold" your two choices on re you get there. To that I would ask how that is any different from switching them on the go.

And you are only limited to additional fast passes as capacity allows. There are reports of folks who have gotten 5th, and 6th fast passes.

But again, I am sorry if you find this terrible. Our family likes the flexibility that comes with the discovery of no line.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Yet that might be preferable to some who can't get an FP at all the day before (see previous post).



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In your situation for a crowd 2 day--I would show up and be done in an hour. Win win!

 

[JimmyV]

Maybe not relevant to you, but it certainly is to me.

How was your day in the Magic Kingdom?

Terrible. I got to ride all the rides I wanted, but not in the order that I wanted to......
said no one ever!

 

[Laketravis]

totally off topic

what kind of monitor are you using (or settings) that you can get that height? I'm about to upgrade from my CRT, and definitely want something better. That screen grab looks like it might be a useful size.

I'm using a 32" monitor but that's not what allowed me to do that - I had to reduce browser zoom to 50%.



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[MrInfinity]

Not saying that at all. I am saying that I could replicate your "awesome" day, quite easily in fact. Maybe the times woul match. Maybe they wouldn't. But that is not relevant. There is nothing that you could do on your awesome day that I would have been precluded from doing.

Ok, go for it. I said this before, you changed the subject, here again you say you "could" (but you won't?) yeah okay then.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

How was your day in the Magic Kingdom?

Terrible. I got to ride all the rides I wanted, but not in the order that I wanted to......
said no one ever!

I was not aware that Cakebaker was beholden to a set specific order.

Had anyone ever said they were ecstatic to wait 4 hours to exercise a paper FP for the only ride they wanted to ride that day?

 

[cakebaker]

But the number was "3" - "3" was the number. There are "3" of us, thus the number "3".

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Then you look for overlaps. I'm getting morning hours for TOT, quite possible that there are overlapping times available. Plus, all of us going in and testing it might just have something to do with it at this point.

But I have no problems saying that 24 hours out that you "may" have some trouble booking the most popular rides, some you can be assured are probably not available (TSMM, SDMT), but you can also be assured there will be many, many rides open to book. Certainly nothing close to "none left" as this discussion started with.

 

[erc]

How was your day in the Magic Kingdom?

Terrible. I got to ride all the rides I wanted, but not in the order that I wanted to......
said no one ever!

Well, I would have said that if I pulled a 4:10 PM Buzz Lightyear when I had a 4:15 ADR at LTT.

 

[jade1]

Just tried again:

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Certainly seems odd that on a Wednesday in late February both TSMM and ToT would no longer be available the day before for 3. So much for any FP's being "held back".


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HaHa, think about that-quite the swing from "you have to book at midnight at 60 days" and "only scraps left at 30 days" to now "its odd the day before".

 

[staceyeileen]

I hate it because if you decide on Wednesday that you would rather go to a different park the following day then where you have your FP, you have to cancel what you have, and try to get new ones...and I will say at that point there are none left.

That's just...

I hardly ever plan my FP+ more than 4-5 days in advance. And very frequently, I plan them the night before. I've never felt like there are "none" left. Take this past Saturday for example. Easywdw had it at a 9 and it sure felt like it. We made the decision we were going to MK at about 1pm, booked our FP+ at about 2pm. We entered the park at about 3:45pm. We had FP+ for Tomorrowland Speedway (5yo DS loves it), Splash Mountain, and BTMRR all from about 5pm-9pm.

 

[MrInfinity]

But the number was "3" - "3" was the number. There are "3" of us, thus the number "3".

In no case shall the number be two, excepting that thou then proceed to three...

 

[JimmyV]

Well, I would have said that if I pulled a 4:10 PM Buzz Lightyear when I had a 4:15 ADR at LTT.

Question: When the big sign on top of the machine said: "Return Time: 4:10-5:10" and you had a 4:15 ADR, why would you have put your ticket into the machine? The machine didn't spit out random times. You knew what you would get before you pulled the trigger. There is no circumstance by which you would have done what you suggest unless you were prepared to:

• Ride at 4:10 and show up a few minutes late for your ADR
• Skip your ADR
• Eat fast and use your FP at 5:10.

Otherwise, you would have come back at a different time.

 

[cakebaker]

How was your day in the Magic Kingdom?

Terrible. I got to ride all the rides I wanted, but not in the order that I wanted to......
said no one ever!

And I wouldn't say that either!

Here's what I'd say- It was awful. Our plan was to go to the MK by opening and leave by 11am. We missed riding SDMT because the FP return time was past noon. So we left as planned, went to our resort for a break, ate lunch, swam, let the baby have his nap and went to Epcot at 4 as planned. Soarin was out of fp's and the line was 90 minutes long all evening so we missed that as well. Unfortunately, the return time for TT was too late and we'd miss our dinner ressie so we had to skip that as well.

It has nothing to do with the order in which I ride- you don't seem to get it. I won't be in the park all day. I won't be at rope drop at one park. I can't get a fp that doesn't exist or exists at a time I won't be there.

Just wait till I tell you how our day went when we made Epcot our morning park and HS our afternoon park.

 

[Laketravis]

HaHa, think about that-quite the swing from "you have to book at midnight at 60 days" and "only scraps left at 30 days"

I've never said that.



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[Laketravis]

Then you look for overlaps. I'm getting morning hours for TOT, quite possible that there are overlapping times available. Plus, all of us going in and testing it might just have something to do with it at this point.

But I have no problems saying that 24 hours out that you "may" have some trouble booking the most popular rides, some you can be assured are probably not available (TSMM, SDMT), but you can also be assured there will be many, many rides open to book. Certainly nothing close to "none left" as this discussion started with.

That may work but sure seems like work and I wonder how many users would even know to try that.




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[JimmyV]

Ok, go for it. I said this before, you changed the subject, here again you say you "could" (but you won't?) yeah okay then.

But I haven't. Day One at Park One and Day Two at Park Two are inextricably intertwined. By referencing this, I am not changing the subject but instead fleshing out the entire scenario. You cannot have your "awesome day" at one park and ignore its ramifications at a second park. It is you who just refuses to accept this. The whole system works in concert, not in isolated abstract.