Looking for info: family of 5, military discount, how many days?

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We are a west coast 'Disneyland family' but will be going to visit our son at Fort Benning, GA in early June. DH, myself, 2 teen daughters, and our active duty son. We are debating about taking a trip with him down to Orlando. We'd love to see Universal Orlando for something completely different. We are DVC owners (VGC), and there are some rooms open at SSR and VB, or we could book a room at Universal with a military discount. I see that there are military discounted park tickets, but I can't find prices.

I'd love input as to where best to stay (for 5 people), how many days, and any other suggestions. How busy are crowds in early June?

This is all new territory (literally and figuratively) for us, so I'd appreciate any suggestions/recommendations! :thanks:
 
You can try a military discounted room at Universal, but my experience with that has not been good. What they have quoted me on the phone has been much higher than what I could book on my own using an APH rate. You can also try putting in "mil" in the promo section when you search for a Universal hotel which will pull up the military rates if there are any. I've had better luck with that. Calling they always want to quote me some ridiculous military package price that is twice what I could price out on my own getting everything separate.

As far as tickets, you can view pricing on the Shades of Green webpage for Universal Military tickets. Your best bet is having your son check the local base in GA for discounted tickets. The local bases in the south will usually have a few deals specific to the region. I know right now when I called our local base (TN), they told me the best deal is a 3 day ticket for I think it was $180. I was told you could buy up to 6 tickets, and only the purchaser has to qualify for the military rate, not all 6 people who will be using them.

As far as where to stay, if you stay in one of the three deluxe hotels, you get EP added into every day of the stay. This lets you, in Disney terms, use the FP line, for every ride. Depending on your tolerance for waiting in line, you'll probably want this in June. You get the EP for the day you check in and the day you check out, so one night will give you 2 days worth of EP passes.

It is definitely possible to just stay at Disney and go back and forth each day. I don't recommend it for longer stays, but if you only plan to go over for a day or so, that might be a good option. With planning, Universal can be done without an EP, it just isn't as relaxed of a trip.

As far as crowds in June, my experience has been that Universal is slightly less busy than however busy Disney is. For instance, if the crowd calendar says 7 for Disney, it is probably 5 or 6 for Universal. Universal does get crowded, and some rides do get long lines (over an hour), but it never seems quite as bad as Disney. Now the HP sections are the exception to the rule. They are always crowded and busy. Go the opposite way with them. However, crowded the park and Disney are, jump up a few levels on the crowd calendar for the HP lands. Just like Disney, there are crowd calendars available for Universal which will tell you the specific wait times of each attraction for each day of the year. I'd look up one of those and see for yourself if you are ok with the waits it lists. Keep in mind, you can usually ride early morning without waiting, and Universal has single rider lines for most of the rides, so you can use those features to avoid a lot of waiting if you don't want to pay for EP.
 
Nighttowll did a great job explaining everything. I have seen some good deals with the "mil" code in promotions -- if there's any left for this June. I will be there in late may/early June. Volcano Bay will be open then too. We are staying May 29-June 2 and I wish we had one or two more days really (but we love Harry Potter and really love to be lazy). We stay at Royal Pacific, which is usually the cheapest of the deluxe resorts with the free express passes. It's also an easy walk to the parks. YOu will be AMAZED how much easier it is to do than Disney. I would HIGHLY recommend trying to stay at Royal Pacific or Hard Rock as it's an easy walk from either for them (or you can take the boat) and you get express pass.

I also second getting passes from the base. They are usually slightly cheaper than Shades of Green -- but you can look at Shadesofgreen.org to get an idea how much tickets would cost. I believe there is a deal now on the 3 park-to-park tickets. Have fun!!!
 

Please thank you son for his service. He, and all who serve, are greatly appreciated.
 
Thank you, everyone! How many days would you recommend we plan? We probably wouldn't get down there until at least afternoon of day 1, so I don't know if we would use that day.
 
You can try a military discounted room at Universal, but my experience with that has not been good. What they have quoted me on the phone has been much higher than what I could book on my own using an APH rate. You can also try putting in "mil" in the promo section when you search for a Universal hotel which will pull up the military rates if there are any. I've had better luck with that. Calling they always want to quote me some ridiculous military package price that is twice what I could price out on my own getting everything separate.

As far as tickets, you can view pricing on the Shades of Green webpage for Universal Military tickets. Your best bet is having your son check the local base in GA for discounted tickets. The local bases in the south will usually have a few deals specific to the region. I know right now when I called our local base (TN), they told me the best deal is a 3 day ticket for I think it was $180. I was told you could buy up to 6 tickets, and only the purchaser has to qualify for the military rate, not all 6 people who will be using them.

As far as where to stay, if you stay in one of the three deluxe hotels, you get EP added into every day of the stay. This lets you, in Disney terms, use the FP line, for every ride. Depending on your tolerance for waiting in line, you'll probably want this in June. You get the EP for the day you check in and the day you check out, so one night will give you 2 days worth of EP passes.

It is definitely possible to just stay at Disney and go back and forth each day. I don't recommend it for longer stays, but if you only plan to go over for a day or so, that might be a good option. With planning, Universal can be done without an EP, it just isn't as relaxed of a trip.

As far as crowds in June, my experience has been that Universal is slightly less busy than however busy Disney is. For instance, if the crowd calendar says 7 for Disney, it is probably 5 or 6 for Universal. Universal does get crowded, and some rides do get long lines (over an hour), but it never seems quite as bad as Disney. Now the HP sections are the exception to the rule. They are always crowded and busy. Go the opposite way with them. However, crowded the park and Disney are, jump up a few levels on the crowd calendar for the HP lands. Just like Disney, there are crowd calendars available for Universal which will tell you the specific wait times of each attraction for each day of the year. I'd look up one of those and see for yourself if you are ok with the waits it lists. Keep in mind, you can usually ride early morning without waiting, and Universal has single rider lines for most of the rides, so you can use those features to avoid a lot of waiting if you don't want to pay for EP.
Thank you so much! How many days would you recommend? Also, do any of the 3 deluxe hotels have rooms for 5? I was on the website last night, and it seemed like they were all for 4 except for the really expensive rooms.
 
Nighttowll did a great job explaining everything. I have seen some good deals with the "mil" code in promotions -- if there's any left for this June. I will be there in late may/early June. Volcano Bay will be open then too. We are staying May 29-June 2 and I wish we had one or two more days really (but we love Harry Potter and really love to be lazy). We stay at Royal Pacific, which is usually the cheapest of the deluxe resorts with the free express passes. It's also an easy walk to the parks. YOu will be AMAZED how much easier it is to do than Disney. I would HIGHLY recommend trying to stay at Royal Pacific or Hard Rock as it's an easy walk from either for them (or you can take the boat) and you get express pass.

I also second getting passes from the base. They are usually slightly cheaper than Shades of Green -- but you can look at Shadesofgreen.org to get an idea how much tickets would cost. I believe there is a deal now on the 3 park-to-park tickets. Have fun!!!
Thank you! Do either of those hotels have rooms for 5 that aren't the super expensive options? I was on the website last night and it was very confusing. The offered me a regular room (I put in 3 adults and 2 kids), but it looked like they only slept 4. Thanks!
 
Thank you! Do either of those hotels have rooms for 5 that aren't the super expensive options? I was on the website last night and it was very confusing. The offered me a regular room (I put in 3 adults and 2 kids), but it looked like they only slept 4. Thanks!

3 adults and 2 kids...one room... should work just fine.
 
Do they provide an extra bed for the 5th person, or does one kid have to sleep on the floor?

Rollaway provided. Do you know approximate dates? There are some Military rates at Portofino (mid $300s) in early June. That may sound like a lot, but that gets you EPs for everyone for the entire stay (2 night stay get 3 days worth of EPs...which would cost $1500+ just for EPs).
 
Rollaway provided. Do you know approximate dates? There are some Military rates at Portofino (mid $300s) in early June. That may sound like a lot, but that gets you EPs for everyone for the entire stay (2 night stay get 3 days worth of EPs...which would cost $1500+ just for EPs).
Somewhere around June 5-9. We wouldn't be able to get there until afternoon of day 1, though, because we'd be driving from Fort Benning. Thank you!
 
I'd do a 3 day ticket. If you like the water parks, then I'd get a 3 park one. If you like it enough, turn it into an AP before you leave a park. Islands tends to stay open longer than the Studios, so go to the Studios the afternoon you arrive, ride the train over to Islands, and exit when closing or finished for that day. Great places to eat at CityWalk or in the hotels. Either way, if you want to park hop, which most of us do, they are not that far apart from each other, make sure you get at least a 2 park pass.

Yep, my MWR sells them, and most of the time, cheaper, but really more convenient. I've also stopped at the ITT office that's about a 7 minute drive from the Orlando Airport and have also used SOG. I'd do whatever is most easiest for you to do. You get your express pass with your hotel key, right in the lobby. Easy. I always look bad in those pictures. LOL

And while I don't have 5, I have teen girl and boy, so we bring a twin air mattress, which each take turns on. The hotels charge 25 dollars, plus tax for a roll away. Call housekeeping, and they will bring you extra bedding. We've never had an issue asking for extra bedding. If you don't want to bring an air mattress, then just ask for more bedding, and make a bed on the floor. We've done that, but the kids like the air mattress better, so we've learned to leave it in our luggage.

Have an awesome time. It's a great time to go, as when it's hot, the pools are nice (you can pool hop with your room key), and the water rides (all in Islands) are more fun.

Oh, and my DH was commissioned at Benning.
 
My experience was that the $25 up-charge was for the extra person, which came with a rollaway and EP.
 
My experience was that the $25 up-charge was for the extra person, which came with a rollaway and EP.
It's supposed to be $25 per adult after 2 adults and $25 for the rollaway. That's the official stance last time I checked. However....nothing is set in stone and I'll leave it at that. Most of the rooms sleep 5 per the hotels guidelines. Why a King suite only sleeps 3 at RPR is beyond me and I've never received a straight answer. No one seems to know.
 
It's supposed to be $25 per adult after 2 adults and $25 for the rollaway. That's the official stance last time I checked. However....nothing is set in stone and I'll leave it at that. Most of the rooms sleep 5 per the hotels guidelines. Why a King suite only sleeps 3 at RPR is beyond me and I've never received a straight answer. No one seems to know.

You might be right...my experience was when I showed up with an extra teenager (not an extra adult), one year...they just charged me an extra $25/night, which included the rollaway.

May be worth a quick call to be 100%
 
Personally, I wouldn't waste a ticket on a half day at Universal. When the parks stay open "late", it's only until about 9 or 10. With Disney you can usually get in a good 8 to 12 hrs even arriving after lunch when the parks stay open late which for Disney is past midnight. However, in comparison Universal closes ridiculously early, 6 sometimes. Looks like 9 for both parks for your dates. That would give you maybe 6 hours if you arrived at the park by 3. Not a lot of time.

Instead, I'd take advantage of some other form of entertainment on arrival day, hang by the pool, play mini-golf in Citywalk (Uni's version of Disney Springs, only its in walking distance of the hotels and parks), catch a movie in Citywalk, go bowling at CB (onsite hotel), see the Blueman Group show in Citywalk, eat a fun themed dinner at Toothsome in Citywalk. I've had family members tell me the mini golf at Universal is some of the best themed they've played anywhere.

If you have a car, you can always catch some other attraction on the way down or nearby as well. The Showcase of Citris is a fun place to stop for an hour or so. There are also a number of dinner shows in Orlando.

As far as the number of days to go, I usually recommend 3 days for newbies if you want to see everything. This gives you 1 day per park and then an extra day to go back and catch anything you missed and to reride any favorites. If you are going only for HP, you can see both areas in one day easily.

Some things to note:

Park Hopping:
I don't hop much at Disney. It takes so long to get from one park to another that it isn't really worth it to me. However, at Universal, I find myself hopping back and forth between parks all day long. With the train going between parks at the back and only a quick 10 minute walk from one gate to the other at the front, it is very easy and convenient to switch parks at Universal. It is more like changing lands than changing parks. Sometimes a ride in the other park is actually closer to you than a ride in the park you are in. The ability to change gives us more options for meals, catching shows, riding headliners in both parks at off times, and adapting to bad weather that may force us onto only indoor rides. Also, you must have "hopping" privileges to ride the train. They will not let you use a second day's ticket to enter the other park by train. You must have a Park to Park ticket.

Room Occupancy:
Technically, you can put 5 in most rooms at the deluxe hotels. I wouldn't want to, unless one of them is a very small child. To me, the rooms feel crowded enough already with 4 people, but we are use to renting condos and houses when we travel. You can request the rollaway if you need it. Either way, you will need to make them aware that there is a 5th person in the room, so you can get the EP for that person.

Deluxe Hotels:
There are 3 deluxe hotels. These give you EP passes in addition to access to HP one hour early. All Universal hotels give you early entry, but only these 3 give the passes.

Royal Pacific
South Pacific theme (Fiji / Hawaii)
2nd closet walk to the parks about 10 minutes
Closest to Island of Adventure Park
Room size: 335 sq ft, smallest rooms
Usually the cheapest option of the 3 resorts


Portifino Bay
Italian theme, Cinque Terre inspired
Farthest of the deluxe hotels, about 15 to 20 minute walk
Closest to Universal Studios Park
Largest rooms at 450 sq ft, if I was adding a 5th person, it would be at this hotel where the rooms don't make me feel like I'm crammed into a sardine can
More expensive rack rate than RP, but sometimes there are discounted rooms for better rates than the discounted rooms at RP


Hard Rock
Rock and roll theme on inside, Spanish colonial on outside
Closest hotel to the parks, with reports of pool gate to park gate taking 4 minutes to walk
Closest to Universal Studios Park
Room size: 375 sq ft, slightly larger than RP
More expensive than RP, sometimes more than PB as well, I haven't seen as good of discounts here as with the other two hotels, but that may just be me not paying enough attention as the hotel theming doesn't appeal to me at all. We are staying here in a few weeks, and I'm trying to be happy about it, but after walking around the hotel a couple weeks ago, I'm not impressed.


*All 3 hotels also offer boat service to the park which runs much more frequently than Disney transportation and only takes about 10 to 15 minutes one way. Each hotel has its own designated boat.


Thrill Rides / Motion Sickness:
Even though Universal doesn't have a ton of coasters (only 3 outdoor, 1 indoor, and 2 kiddy), most of what it does have could be classified more as a thrill ride than anything else. I made the mistake of going with a friend recently who told me she doesn't do coasters. I said, "Ok, no big deal. There is plenty of other stuff for us to do instead." Well, what she actually meant was I don't do thrill rides. She wouldn't ride anything that was a coaster, went fast, was up high, spun in a circle, or caused motion sickness! This pretty much ruled out 75% of what Univesal has to offer. Please be aware of the types of rides Universal has, which rides can cause motion sickness (like half), which are intense, go fast, go high, are dark and scary for kids, have height requirements for kids, etc. This will help you in determining how much you actually want to do and how many days you need. You may also want to check with a Dr about motion sickness medication if you are prone to it. I don't need any medicine at Disney but a number of rides at Universal make me sick if I don't take something before riding them.


Water Rides:
Prepare to get very very wet and on the raft ride, possibly completely soaked. I mean jumped in the pool with my clothes on soaked.


Lockers / Lanyards
Unlike at Disney where you can take small bags on any ride and larger bags on most attractions, at Universal many of the rides require you to store your belongings in a locker before riding. The lockers are free to use. Some love them; some hate them. Personally, I find them a little annoying and inconvenient at times, but overall don't hate them and don't mind using them once or twice. The outdoor coasters are even stricter, requiring you to empty your pockets completely. Nothing can be taken at all on those rides, and they use metal detectors to enforce the rule. Because of this, many people carry lanyards or waist money belts instead of bags because those are the only things you are allowed to keep with you. The lanyards are great for EPs as well because they have a barcode on them that must be scanned at every ride to enter. You don't want to have to keep pulling that out each time you want to ride something.

Child-swap:
If you have a child or children that don't want to ride or can't ride, you can use child swap on just about every ride. Everyone goes in the line together and waits together. Then, when you get up closer to boarding, you tell them you are doing child swap, and they will have one adult and the non riding child wait in a room (usually with a tv), for the first adult to ride. Since adults do not have to ride alone, if there is a 3rd adult or child that is also riding, they can ride again with the second adult, while the first adult waits with the non riding child. I haven't tried it myself, but I've heard others report the process is done much better at Uni than whatever version Disney has.

Single Rider:
Again, unlike Disney, almost all attractions at Uni have a single rider line which is usually much faster than the standby line if you are ok with not sitting together.
 
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Personally, I wouldn't waste a ticket on a half day at Universal. When the parks stay open "late", it's only until about 9 or 10. With Disney you can usually get in a good 8 to 12 hrs even arriving after lunch when the parks stay open late which for Disney is past midnight. However, in comparison Universal closes ridiculously early, 6 sometimes. Looks like 9 for both parks for your dates. That would give you maybe 6 hours if you arrived at the park by 3. Not a lot of time.

Instead, I'd take advantage of some other form of entertainment on arrival day, hang by the pool, play mini-golf in Citywalk (Uni's version of Disney Springs, only its in walking distance of the hotels and parks), catch a movie in Citywalk, go bowling at CB (onsite hotel), see the Blueman Group show in Citywalk, eat a fun themed dinner at Toothsome in Citywalk. I've had family members tell me the mini golf at Universal is some of the best themed they've played anywhere.

If you have a car, you can always catch some other attraction on the way down or nearby as well. The Showcase of Citris is a fun place to stop for an hour or so. There are also a number of dinner shows in Orlando.

As far as the number of days to go, I usually recommend 3 days for newbies if you want to see everything. This gives you 1 day per park and then an extra day to go back and catch anything you missed and to reride any favorites. If you are going only for HP, you can see both areas in one day easily.

Some things to note:

Park Hopping:
I don't hop much at Disney. It takes so long to get from one park to another that it isn't really worth it to me. However, at Universal, I find myself hopping back and forth between parks all day long. With the train going between parks at the back and only a quick 10 minute walk from one gate to the other at the front, it is very easy and convenient to switch parks at Universal. It is more like changing lands than changing parks. Sometimes a ride in the other park is actually closer to you than a ride in the park you are in. The ability to change gives us more options for meals, catching shows, riding headliners in both parks at off times, and adapting to bad weather that may force us onto only indoor rides. Also, you must have "hopping" privileges to ride the train. They will not let you use a second day's ticket to enter the other park by train. You must have a Park to Park ticket.

Room Occupancy:
Technically, you can put 5 in most rooms at the deluxe hotels. I wouldn't want to, unless one of them is a very small child. To me, the rooms feel crowded enough already with 4 people, but we are use to renting condos and houses when we travel. You can request the rollaway if you need it. Either way, you will need to make them aware that there is a 5th person in the room, so you can get the EP for that person.

Deluxe Hotels:
There are 3 deluxe hotels. These give you EP passes in addition to access to HP one hour early. All Universal hotels give you early entry, but only these 3 give the passes.

Royal Pacific
South Pacific theme (Fiji / Hawaii)
2nd closet walk to the parks about 10 minutes
Closest to Island of Adventure Park
Room size: 335 sq ft, smallest rooms
Usually the cheapest option of the 3 resorts


Portifino Bay
Italian theme, Cinque Terre inspired
Farthest of the deluxe hotels, about 15 to 20 minute walk
Closest to Universal Studios Park
Largest rooms at 450 sq ft, if I was adding a 5th person, it would be at this hotel where the rooms don't make me feel like I'm crammed into a sardine can
More expensive rack rate than RP, but sometimes there are discounted rooms for better rates than the discounted rooms at RP


Hard Rock
Rock and roll theme on inside, Spanish colonial on outside
Closest hotel to the parks, with reports of pool gate to park gate taking 4 minutes to walk
Closest to Universal Studios Park
Room size: 375 sq ft, slightly larger than RP
More expensive than RP, sometimes more than PB as well, I haven't seen as good of discounts here as with the other two hotels, but that may just be me not paying enough attention as the hotel theming doesn't appeal to me at all. We are staying here in a few weeks, and I'm trying to be happy about it, but after walking around the hotel a couple weeks ago, I'm not impressed.


Thrill Rides / Motion Sickness:
Even though Universal doesn't have a ton of coasters (only 3 outdoor, 1 indoor, and 2 kiddy), most of what it does have could be classified more as a thrill ride than anything else. I made the mistake of going with a friend recently who told me she doesn't do coasters. I said, "Ok, no big deal. There is plenty of other stuff for us to do instead." Well, what she actually meant was I don't do thrill rides. She wouldn't ride anything that was a coaster, went fast, was up high, spun in a circle, or caused motion sickness! This pretty much ruled out 75% of what Univesal has to offer. Please be aware of the types of rides Universal has, which rides can cause motion sickness (like half), which are intense, go fast, go high, are dark and scary for kids, have height requirements for kids, etc. This will help you in determining how much you actually want to do and how many days you need. You may also want to check with a Dr about motion sickness medication if you are prone to it. I don't need any medicine at Disney but a number of rides at Universal make me sick if I don't take something before riding them.


Water Rides:
Prepare to get very very wet and on the raft ride, possibly completely soaked. I mean jumped in the pool with my clothes on soaked.


Lockers / Lanyards
Unlike at Disney where you can take small bags on any ride and larger bags on most attractions, at Universal many of the rides require you to store your belongings in a locker before riding. The lockers are free to use. Some love them; some hate them. Personally, I find them a little annoying and inconvenient at times, but overall don't hate them and don't mind using them once or twice. The outdoor coasters are even stricter, requiring you to empty your pockets completely. Nothing can be taken at all on those rides, and they use metal detectors to enforce the rule. Because of this, many people carry lanyards or waist money belts instead of bags because those are the only things you are allowed to keep with you. The lanyards are great for EPs as well because they have a barcode on them that must be scanned at every ride to enter. You don't want to have to keep pulling that out each time you want to ride something.
This is amazing info, thank you!
 




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