Live365 shutting down

Does anyone know if Park Hopper Radio is going to stream anywhere else? I am so sad to see it go. They has full audio for so many rides, including old Spaceship Earth narration, Malestrom, and the old TTA narration. I've listed to that station for years, and I'm really hoping it will pop up somewhere else!

Like you I liked this station for all the reasons you mentioned. I found on TuneIn several stations that do indeed play this type of park music with the soundtracks and narration for most of the rides...smjj
 
Thanks for all the great tips! I now have more great options for WDW music than before.
 
I, too, had tears as I listened "for the last time". So very sorry this is happening and I've said a few "short words" about the licensing fee. Absolutely ridiculous! :furious: :tink:

I agree. .017 for every listener on every track they hear. When you see .017 it doesn't seem much but if you think about it this way - say we have 25 listeners and all 25 listen to 8 tracks in an hour (that is low) it would be (my math skills are horrible so please forgive any mistakes) 3.40 for an hour. 3.40 x 24 hours in a day = 81.60 for one day. 81.60 times 30 days in a month = 2,448 x 12 months in a year = $29.376. That is for royalties only. Then there is the additional 500.00 a year to Sound Exchange just to be able to stream.. then there is paying your host.

We were paying Live365 about 50.00 a month for quite a bit of space and a 100 listener limit. We would average 6500-7000 total listening hours a month. That is small compared to some other stations. Now we are paying 6.00 a month for our host, and 60.00 a month to Stream Licensing. They cover our royalties as of now. There is a chance that cost will go up and if it does that will be the end of MHR. I am not sure exactly how Stream licensing is doing it. - maybe an agreement with Sound Exchange. I am just not sure. So our costs have gone up. Now here is the kicker.. we can only have 25 listeners at any one time - not 100. We also can not exceed 4000 total listening hours a month or what we pay Stream Licensing goes up. They will not even accept a station that has over 7K listening hours a month. Therefore we have to really watch our numbers. We may have to kick people off after a certain amount of time if we find ourselves exceeding what we can afford. It wouldn't be a harsh time kick off point - something like after a few hours. If there was space you could always log back on. This would be done to prevent people from starting a player and walking away letting it go for hours on end. We had a person in Lithuania do that - after 18 hours I kicked them off.

Some of the larger stations have advertisers/sponsors. We do not. Every penny to keep the station going comes from us. We have tossed the idea around, but it would be a last resort done only to try to stay on air. Not something we really want to do.

There are a lot of great stations that had to close down and walk away. it makes me VERY sad. I can only imagine what the costs for MouseWorld would be - terrifying. They were huge.

This is also making me VERY thankful we (so far - knocking on wood) have been able to weather the storm. Our survival lies in the hands of Stream Licensing and their ability to get a decent rate.

Here is a link to the petition that is circulating. Every single signature is a helpful. http://www.radiodiversity.org/
 
I agree. .017 for every listener on every track they hear. When you see .017 it doesn't seem much but if you think about it this way - say we have 25 listeners and all 25 listen to 8 tracks in an hour (that is low) it would be (my math skills are horrible so please forgive any mistakes) 3.40 for an hour. 3.40 x 24 hours in a day = 81.60 for one day. 81.60 times 30 days in a month = 2,448 x 12 months in a year = $29.376. That is for royalties only. Then there is the additional 500.00 a year to Sound Exchange just to be able to stream.. then there is paying your host.

We were paying Live365 about 50.00 a month for quite a bit of space and a 100 listener limit. We would average 6500-7000 total listening hours a month. That is small compared to some other stations. Now we are paying 6.00 a month for our host, and 60.00 a month to Stream Licensing. They cover our royalties as of now. There is a chance that cost will go up and if it does that will be the end of MHR. I am not sure exactly how Stream licensing is doing it. - maybe an agreement with Sound Exchange. I am just not sure. So our costs have gone up. Now here is the kicker.. we can only have 25 listeners at any one time - not 100. We also can not exceed 4000 total listening hours a month or what we pay Stream Licensing goes up. They will not even accept a station that has over 7K listening hours a month. Therefore we have to really watch our numbers. We may have to kick people off after a certain amount of time if we find ourselves exceeding what we can afford. It wouldn't be a harsh time kick off point - something like after a few hours. If there was space you could always log back on. This would be done to prevent people from starting a player and walking away letting it go for hours on end. We had a person in Lithuania do that - after 18 hours I kicked them off.

Some of the larger stations have advertisers/sponsors. We do not. Every penny to keep the station going comes from us. We have tossed the idea around, but it would be a last resort done only to try to stay on air. Not something we really want to do.

There are a lot of great stations that had to close down and walk away. it makes me VERY sad. I can only imagine what the costs for MouseWorld would be - terrifying. They were huge.

This is also making me VERY thankful we (so far - knocking on wood) have been able to weather the storm. Our survival lies in the hands of Stream Licensing and their ability to get a decent rate.

Here is a link to the petition that is circulating. Every single signature is a helpful. http://www.radiodiversity.org/

Thanks for the "in plain words" explanation. :thumbsup2 It seems like the "little people" are being left out in the cold more and more. Totally off topic :offtopic: but our school district is dealing with a situation this morning just as crazy. :crazy: UIL re-alignments were announced and our small town in South Central Texas was placed in a district with East Texas schools....road trips of 100+ miles ahead for the next 2 years for our athletic students. How stupid is THAT, asking these young people to ride a school bus 100+ miles on a school night after playing a game ending at 9 PM? Crazy things happening all around and my signature has been added for your cause. :hug: :tink:
 

Question for you - how long after you requested your refund were you contacted? I requested a refund 7 days and I've had no response. I'm sure they're overwhelmed at the moment so the actual refund may take some time, but I was hoping that my request would at least have been acknowledged by now.

Like you, I was a VIP subscriber for years and also did not get an email about them going off air. I read it here on the Dis.

I got an email back from them in 2 days. They do mention the "heavy volume of requests" will take longer to process. Haven't seen the refund post to my account yet.
 
Thanks for the "in plain words" explanation. :thumbsup2 It seems like the "little people" are being left out in the cold more and more. Totally off topic :offtopic: but our school district is dealing with a situation this morning just as crazy. :crazy: UIL re-alignments were announced and our small town in South Central Texas was placed in a district with East Texas schools....road trips of 100+ miles ahead for the next 2 years for our athletic students. How stupid is THAT, asking these young people to ride a school bus 100+ miles on a school night after playing a game ending at 9 PM? Crazy things happening all around and my signature has been added for your cause. :hug: :tink:

that is nuts! We live in the Dallas area. Both of our girls have graduated so we haven't had to deal with UIL stuff for a few years now. Sorry to hear all that you are dealing with. Nothing is ever easy. Is it?
 
that is nuts! We live in the Dallas area. Both of our girls have graduated so we haven't had to deal with UIL stuff for a few years now. Sorry to hear all that you are dealing with. Nothing is ever easy. Is it?

Isn't that the craziest thing you've ever heard of??? :crazy: We're talking about 120 MILE road trips...one way! DD's have also graduated (more than a few years ago :goodvibes) but both were band students. I'm SO glad I'm not President of the Band Boosters anymore and having to deal with evening meals during those away games. :headache: We are now following DGD :lovestruc who enters her freshman year in August. She will playing high school volleyball, soccer and tennis. If I'm not mistaken, the volleyball teams are classified with the basketball teams which are in a "different" district...another CRAZY part of UIL. But, the bottom line, even during the "lean years" when we didn't have children or grandchildren involved in sports, we STILL attend the school athletic events in support of those students who put forth the extra effort it takes to be involved in sports. It's very frustrating that now, they'll see less of that support at their away games. You are so right; nothing is EVER easy. :headache: :tink:
 
Thank you

We appreciate our listeners. Even though I knew it was coming last night when Live365 pulled the plug there were still tears. It was a great run for 13 years. I sincerely hope we can stream for at least another 13.
I logged into Shoutcast and the music is great...but...how do you know what is playing, from what Park? Any way to identify the song that is playing ???
 
I logged into Shoutcast and the music is great...but...how do you know what is playing, from what Park? Any way to identify the song that is playing ???

The best way to do that with our station would be to launch the player that is on our website. It will even direct you to the cd you can purchase the music from via Amazon... *if* one is available. You can also listen via your device by looking for the Stream Licensing App in your app store.

I am sorry I can't help you with any other stations. Shoutcast will show stations that are hosted through many different services, not just the one we are streaming through. Spectro Radio streams exactly like we do so you can also listen to them via the stream licensing app.

I chat with the owner of that station occasionally. Great guy. He has a really nifty player on his site. We are looking into going with a player like he has, just haven't had the time to check into it yet.
 
I logged into Shoutcast and the music is great...but...how do you know what is playing, from what Park? Any way to identify the song that is playing ???

Just google for the favorite stations you listened to on Live365. I did and found many that now have their own website or new host. I now have just about all my favorites I was listening to on Live365.. If you want a list PM me and I will gladly share with you, they are all Disney stations...smjj
 
What are the best stations you all are finding on Tune In?
Kungaloosh Radio, Mouse World Radio and Sorcerer Radio are the three I've been rotating through. When you search 'Disney World', there are others that come up as well...
 
What are the best stations you all are finding on Tune In?
Mouse theme Parks Radio, Reedy Creek(really good), Sorcerer Radio, Dparkradio,Spectro Radio, Mouseworld Radio,. Nice thing about TuneIn is they allow you to create a favorites list like Live365 so it is real easy to switch stations.....smj
 
My wife started Mad Hatter Radio on Radionomy (which also owns Shoutcast) and it can also be found on TuneIn.

Not to take away from other stations, but please give it a listen. We believe there's room for all Disney-themed stations!
 


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