Line holders

[ParkHoppers]

I love all these people who cut lines telling us how laid back they are. Do laid back people really have a plan to send people ahead to get in line so they can get on the next ride faster when they arrive? Doesn't sound laid back to me. Laid back is more like slow down guys we will all get to the next ride when we all get there. Right? Laid back people don't make a plan to split up the group to do two things at once. Do they? And people stop using the my child needed to use the bathroom excuse. Read some more of this thread before you reply. Most complaining about line cutting don't have an issue with someone ALREADY IN LINE leaving briefly to then come back in. It is the not waiting in line on purpose because they just don't want to or think they should have to like the rest of us. Disney does not allow line cutting so if someone doesn't want to move to let a line cutter by you need to take that up with a CM and see if they will help you out. Not so sure they will but have at it. If Disney believed in line cutting there would be a little line that runs along the main line so people could get up to their groups. Maximizing your vacation does not mean doing things that negatively affect other guests. Common sense manners are becoming a lost art. It's really to bad.

 

[Jennasis]

Fwiw, if you were in line and have to leave for any reason (potty, water, snacks, phone call etc) and then rejoin your party, that's cool. If you were never in line and try to join a placeholder, that's rude.

 

[KBinCO]

I know I said it before... But relax. Letting yourself get so aggravated is no fun for anyone.

Last night I took my kids to fireworks alone. We parked a mile away, at least. Before the fireworks started, it started to pour. We watched the show and loved it, even in the rain.

Then it was over and we had to walk with the masses to get to our car. My littles have never been such troopers- staying with me, walking far in the dark at 11pm in the rain and mud. Narrow sidewalks and thousands of people.

Then this woman in front of me yells at her 10 year to say excuse me when an adult bumps into them. Then starts fuming "an adult bumped into YOU. It's not your fault but you could say excuse me to let them know. What kind of ADULT bumps into a KID! For the love of GOD you're 10 and they're and adult!!" The teenage son was embarrassed and told his mom to calm down but she went on for another 10 mins about it. Tbh I just assumed my kids would be bumped into in the situation. Maybe I bumped her kid, I didn't feel myself bump into anyone but it was complete chaos. I just felt like if the mother would just let it go and relax a bit, she wouldn't be so miserable.

Or maybe it's just miserable people who let themselves get so worked up.

 

[maxiesmom]

[QUOTE="KBinCO, post: 56035489, member: 509285"

Then this woman in front of me yells at her 10 year to say excuse me when an adult bumps into them. Then starts fuming "an adult bumped into YOU. It's not your fault but you could say excuse me to let them know. What kind of ADULT bumps into a KID! For the love of GOD you're 10 and they're and adult!!" The teenage son was embarrassed and told his mom to calm down but she went on for another 10 mins about it. Tbh I just assumed my kids would be bumped into in the situation. Maybe I bumped her kid, I didn't feel myself bump into anyone but it was complete chaos. I just felt like if the mother would just let it go and relax a bit, she wouldn't be so miserable.

Or maybe it's just miserable people who let themselves get so worked up.[/QUOTE]


You are comparing something that was an accident to some people who are rude on purpose, and don't care. Trust me, if someone cuts in front of me in line I don't get all worked up over it. I call them names in my head, and go on enjoying my day. But that doesn't stop me from sitting here on my computer, thinking they are very rude and entitled. And thinking how laughable it is that the people who are rude and entitled try and turn it around as if it is the people they are being rude to are the ones that have the problem. It is pretty darned human to be upset when someone treats you badly.

 

[IrishNYC]

If I see you pass me with your kid doing the peepee dance, be my guest and come on back to the line after you get it taken care of. If you're joining your family up ahead, you can call them right on back to where you are behind me, or call a CM over. Huge difference.

 

[KBinCO]

[QUOTE="KBinCO, post: 56035489, member: 509285"

Then this woman in front of me yells at her 10 year to say excuse me when an adult bumps into them. Then starts fuming "an adult bumped into YOU. It's not your fault but you could say excuse me to let them know. What kind of ADULT bumps into a KID! For the love of GOD you're 10 and they're and adult!!" The teenage son was embarrassed and told his mom to calm down but she went on for another 10 mins about it. Tbh I just assumed my kids would be bumped into in the situation. Maybe I bumped her kid, I didn't feel myself bump into anyone but it was complete chaos. I just felt like if the mother would just let it go and relax a bit, she wouldn't be so miserable.

Or maybe it's just miserable people who let themselves get so worked up.


You are comparing something that was an accident to some people who are rude on purpose, and don't care. Trust me, if someone cuts in front of me in line I don't get all worked up over it. I call them names in my head, and go on enjoying my day. But that doesn't stop me from sitting here on my computer, thinking they are very rude and entitled. And thinking how laughable it is that the people who are rude and entitled try and turn it around as if it is the people they are being rude to are the ones that have the problem. It is pretty darned human to be upset when someone treats you badly.

I didn't think I was making any comparison to be quite honest. Just saying that people who allow themselves to let things get to them seem miserable.


We had a fabulous time on our Disney cruise. Another family, who encountered the same things as us, had a miserable time. I didn't let those things get to us. Way more fun that way.

 

[ParkHoppers]

I didn't think I was making any comparison to be quite honest. Just saying that people who allow themselves to let things get to them seem miserable.


We had a fabulous time on our Disney cruise. Another family, who encountered the same things as us, had a miserable time. I didn't let those things get to us. Way more fun that way.

Who are you to pretend you know everyone complaining about poor manners is aggrevated or upset. Some of us have principles we are proud to stand on. What you are doing is called deflection. So as not to look at the subject at hand. Or actually admit to yourself that what you are doing is wrong. Nice try but it is not going to work. As more and more people in this world try to take advantage of their fellow humans to make their lives easier or get ahead I am proud to be a person who tries to live my life without placing a negative effect on others. When I stand up for my principles in life I don't get mad or show aggravation towards those I disagree with. If you do that then the people in the wrong can just claim you are starting a fight with them and then they can DEFLECT the subject at hand. Oh No. I calmly explain my views. Why get mad when you have right on your side. If everyone just turns a blind eye then the problems we face in life just get worse.

 

[KBinCO]

Who are you to pretend you know everyone complaining about poor manners is aggrevated or upset. Some of us have principles we are proud to stand on. What you are doing is called deflection. So as not to look at the subject at hand. Or actually admit to yourself that what you are doing is wrong. Nice try but it is not going to work. As more and more people in this world try to take advantage of their fellow humans to make their lives easier or get ahead I am proud to be a person who tries to live my life without placing a negative effect on others. When I stand up for my principles in life I don't get mad or show aggravation towards those I disagree with. If you do that then the people in the wrong can just claim you are starting a fight with them and then they can DEFLECT the subject at hand. Oh No. I calmly explain my views. Why get mad when you have right on your side. If everyone just turns a blind eye then the problems we face in life just get worse.

Lol I don't know a thing. They just seem miserable.


I am not deflecting. I owned the two times I left my line. If you want to call CMs over to embarrass the 60 year old with Colon cancer because you are standing up for your beliefs, keep on keeping on. More power to you, friend!

 

[ParkHoppers]

Lol I don't know a thing. They just seem miserable.

Deflection.....100%

 

[Lothlórien]

In my opinion, as annoying as it may be at times, it really is not that big of a deal.

It slows you down by what?? 30 - 90 seconds? I am thankful I am healthy, can walk, can afford to go and enjoy myself and that I am in Disney. There are bigger issues to get worked up over.

 

[Mickey'sGF]

In my opinion, as annoying as it may be at times, it really is not that big of a deal.

It slows you down by what?? 30 - 90 seconds? I am thankful I am healthy, can walk, can afford to go and enjoy myself and that I am in Disney. There are bigger issues to get worked up over.

I 100% agree!

 

[KBinCO]

Deflection.....100%

What have i deflected. I admitted what I did. Two or three different times in this post. and I said if you want to keep me off the ride or keep my family separate, do it. I honestly do not care that much. What am I trying to deflect here?

 

[bryanb]

I got really agitated when a single teenager raced me to cut off in front of my party of two at at the main entrance. But then he held up the line as his large family of 10 pushed their way around us to catch up to him.

In the amount of time that he held us up, we could've scanned our tickets and been in the park. But his family, including slow moving walkers ambled up. They didn't understand how to use the scanners. And then, of course, there was a problem with their tickets and we had to stand there as a supervisor was called to figure out the issue which took forever. In the meantime, all the other lines were moving quickly.

The kid should've not raced to get first in line in front of me, knowing his very slow family couldn't keep up. And two, the parents should've been gracious enough to let us go on ahead of them, knowing how slow and large their group was.

I started to get agitated, but the lady I was with kind of put it in perspective and said that this wasn't a big deal, and it was all good. Even if we were delayed 5-10 minutes it shouldn't ruin my day. So that's the attitude I now take with annoying situations in the park.

I guess that's the "right" way to look at it. There's what's right and what's fair. But there's also perspective on what should make someone angry and frustrated, and if it makes me unhappy, it's only cheating me out of my own vacation.

 

[Aliceacc]

Here's what makes me chuckle about this thread.

There are two groups: those who think it's OK to jump a line, and those who think it's not. The discussion has gone back and forth for 13 pages now, with posts on both sides.

Those in favor of cutting seem to be cautioning those of us against it to relax and take it in stride, while they continue to post their point of view. The assumption is that they're all zen and calm, and that those with the opposing point of view are all worked up. I'm not real sure what they're basing that assumption on.

I do think it's possible to recognize an action as being wrong without getting all worked up over it, an I think that's ehTs been happening on this thread. Having. a point of view isn't the same thing as letting the opposing point of view ruin your vacation

Maybe it's easier to be zen when you're not the one waiting your turn?

 

[Doug M]

In my opinion, as annoying as it may be at times, it really is not that big of a deal.

It slows you down by what?? 30 - 90 seconds? I am thankful I am healthy, can walk, can afford to go and enjoy myself and that I am in Disney. There are bigger issues to get worked up over.

Multiply this by every person they pass in line. Better they wait together instead of making hundreds wait longer, its rude.

 

[KBinCO]

Here's what makes me chuckle about this thread.

There are two groups: those who think it's OK to jump a line, and those who think it's not. The discussion has gone back and forth for 13 pages now, with posts on both sides.

Those in favor of cutting seem to be cautioning those of us against it to relax and take it in stride, while they continue to post their point of view. The assumption is that they're all zen and calm, and that those with the opposing point of view are all worked up. I'm not real sure what they're basing that assumption on.

Maybe it's easier to be zen when you're not the one waiting your turn?

Meh. I noted the two times this has happened in my case. After 13+ trips to the parks. You can call me a line cutter for doing it twice, once for a potty break and once for a treat for my kids. But because of those two instances I have no problem letting it happen in front of me. I think there are two groups: those who care and those who don't. Those who don't aren't necessarily "cutters" themselves. Maybe just a little more understanding.

 

[kellyjeanie]

I think there are a lot of us in the middle, who really don't care unless it gets excessive. One person comes through with a kid who had to go potty or with a handful of popsicles? Not a big deal, have a nice day. But it happens multiple times in one queue? Not necessarily by the same person, but with multiple families having kids needing to go potty or needing popsicles or whatever? Then it starts to get irritating. The queue is just not set up for that kind of traffic.

 

[Momtomouselover]

Here's what makes me chuckle about this thread.

There are two groups: those who think it's OK to jump a line, and those who think it's not. The discussion has gone back and forth for 13 pages now, with posts on both sides.

Those in favor of cutting seem to be cautioning those of us against it to relax and take it in stride, while they continue to post their point of view. The assumption is that they're all zen and calm, and that those with the opposing point of view are all worked up. I'm not real sure what they're basing that assumption on.

I do think it's possible to recognize an action as being wrong without getting all worked up over it, an I think that's ehTs been happening on this thread. Having. a point of view isn't the same thing as letting the opposing point of view ruin your vacation

Maybe it's easier to be zen when you're not the one waiting your turn?

Here's what makes me chuckle about this. I think your statement, and the one similar to it by another poster, is a simplistic way of looking at it that slants the issue to your perspective in an attempt to give you the moral high ground and defines the issue (what is cutting) your way so you can then make your point. I would say there are more than two perspectives and yes, a few people do seem more irate about it than others (This may not be you).

Although, I guess I'm too zen about this to continue trying to explain where I stand.

 

[gorkt]

You can't control what other people do, but you can control your reaction to it. A parent taking their kid to the restroom in a long line - wouldn't bother me. I've been there and I'm not that petty. Ten adults or teens jumping in with one person who was holding the line - then I would say something, even if it didn't make them leave. I would just want them to know that this is rude and not okay.

 

[KrazeeK120]

My opinion: if a small child needs to use the restroom, I have no problem with them leaving the line and re-joining. I'd much rather that than the kid have an accident in line.

If you leave the line for any other reason, or were never in line to start with, you should join the end of the line. To do otherwise would be rude.

Unfortunately, it appears that there are a lot of people who feel that they/their children/their family are "special snowflakes" who can do whatever they want. It doesn't just apply to line cutting at Disney...it seems to be the way the world is trending (the "everyone gets a trophy" mindset). It's not really caused issues with lines at Disney YET, but it seems that each generation is becoming more "entitled" than the one before, and it wouldn't surprise me if it does become a real problem later on down the road.