Let me make an appeal... DCL guidelines

[lanejudy]

In fact his main complaint was that DCL gave no warning about their policy change which thanks to his heads up many DIS cruisers will now be prepared for.

Actually, there is no "policy change" - DCL is enforcing a policy that has been in place for a long while. They are just more strictly enforcing it now than in the past.

 

[Green Tea]

Maybe they ought to divide the ship.....like some used to do for smoking. Port side is for rule followers. Starboard for fun.

 

[Melissa S]

Agree that DCL makes rules and then doesn't enforce them. On our last cruise we overheard the table next to us tell their server that they would not be at dinner the next night because they didn't bring dress up clothes. They weren't upset and said they would go to Topsiders or quick serve. The server told them "This is YOUR cruise. You can wear whatever YOU want." Why have a dress code if a.) it's not enforced and b.) CMs are TELLING people not to follow the rules. As much as I love getting dressed up, after three cruises we have decided to stop packing suits and cocktail dresses.

 

[Juney]

I totally agree with the original poster. People who think they are above rules really annoy me.

 

[jahber]

Maybe they ought to divide the ship.....like some used to do for smoking. Port side is for rule followers. Starboard for fun.

And forward is for those who want to do both and aft is for those who don't want to do either. Wait...I don't want those last people on my cruise! Let's make it forward and aft for people who want to follow the rules and still have fun!

 

[Juney]

And forward is for those who want to do both and aft is for those who don't want to do either. Wait...I don't want those last people on my cruise! Let's make it forward and aft for people who want to follow the rules and still have fun!

Then I am perfectly booked in my 9 D cabin on my next fantasy cruise. LOL

 

[sissy_ib]

Agree that DCL makes rules and then doesn't enforce them. On our last cruise we overheard the table next to us tell their server that they would not be at dinner the next night because they didn't bring dress up clothes. They weren't upset and said they would go to Topsiders or quick serve. The server told them "This is YOUR cruise. You can wear whatever YOU want." Why have a dress code if a.) it's not enforced and b.) CMs are TELLING people not to follow the rules. As much as I love getting dressed up, after three cruises we have decided to stop packing suits and cocktail dresses.

I think this is part of the problem. DCL calls these things rules but treats them as suggestions. Too many places today do that. I wish they would just make things more clear. Oh well. I like getting dressed up and we don't carry coolers so no biggie to me.

 

[uziel5000]

Let me be a little more clear, nothing has happened to me in regards to guidelines being enforced by DCL. But I get upset when seeing posts by people who are upset by the policies and try and flex them a little to meet their needs...

In example...

I don't want to pay for alcohol so I'm going to bring lots if it inboard in a cooler I'm not supposed to have...

I don't like wearing pants so I'm going to wear shorts to dinner instead...

These types if posts happen fairly often and I would just like to give people the chance to think about this and maybe decide to try and follow the guidelines... I think everyone will have a nicer time if no one was ever surprised by DCL enforcing guidelines. I guess my language is a little brash but this is my honest opinion.

Yeah we need to get rid of those people! If they don't like wearing pants and can't wear shorts they can just stay home. I sure don't want to see people in their underwear or going commando while I'm eating dinner!

BTW, I'm just joking, I totally understand what you are saying.

 

[baleeve]

Let me be a little more clear, nothing has happened to me in regards to guidelines being enforced by DCL. But I get upset when seeing posts by people who are upset by the policies and try and flex them a little to meet their needs...

In example...

I don't want to pay for alcohol so I'm going to bring lots if it inboard in a cooler I'm not supposed to have...

I don't like wearing pants so I'm going to wear shorts to dinner instead...

These types if posts happen fairly often and I would just like to give people the chance to think about this and maybe decide to try and follow the guidelines... I think everyone will have a nicer time if no one was ever surprised by DCL enforcing guidelines. I guess my language is a little brash but this is my honest opinion.

It would be nicer (to the wonderful DCL crew) who I'm sure don't enjoy enforcing rules if everyone would just follow "rules", "guidelines" or whatever terminology you want to use. The crew, I'm sure, would much rather be there to make your trip enjoyable than to REMIND you about written policies!

We are after all ADULTS, who in most cases are traveling with children. Those little eyes are watching and those little ears are listening. So how can you justify not following rules when you teach little ones too? I see this too often and it never fails to disappoint.

 

[Gatrcruzer]

I can definitely appreciate that it is annoying to hear about people complaining about having to follow a rule. That said, I will say that this is a forum where people share information about their experiences, and for those who may not have been aware of the new strict adherence to policy in the case of the coolers, it was good information to pass along, and I think there may have been people on the forum who found the information helpful. And I don't think the poster was even complaining - mainly taken aback.

I don't actually own such a cooler, and it would never occur to me to try to bring one onboard, but I will say that the policy is not very intuitive. I agree with other posters who note that if a business has a rule or policy, it should be enforced consistently from the start. Otherwise, it sends a mixed message, and what is the point of having these rules/policies? However, I don't find it problematic for forum participants to report on changes to the enforcement of existing policy.

 

[eva]

It would be nicer (to the wonderful DCL crew) who I'm sure don't enjoy enforcing rules if everyone would just follow "rules", "guidelines" or whatever terminology you want to use. The crew, I'm sure, would much rather be there to make your trip enjoyable than to REMIND you about written policies!

We are after all ADULTS, who in most cases are traveling with children. Those little eyes are watching and those little ears are listening. So how can you justify not following rules when you teach little ones too? I see this too often and it never fails to disappoint.

Sure wish it worked that way, but it doesn't. That's why everyone drives the speed limit, never takes a pen home from work, or jaywalks. Sorry, wish the world worked that way, but unfortunately it doesn't. There are those of us that follow the rules to a tee. Then there are those that love to skirt the law. If you aren't going to enforce the rules, then don't make them.

PS - When I was a high school teacher, I didn't want to spend time enforcing the rules either. I would have preferred using all my time teaching great students all they needed to know about math. But enforcing the rules was part of my job. When I enforced the rules it allowed the students to actually learn math. So when CM's enforce the rules, it allows others to enjoy their vacation more.

 

[Juney]

. If you aren't going to enforce the rules, then don't make them.
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I think that statement is so sad.

 

[Llges]

What is the dress code for dinner? I don't want to be over or underdressed. Are nice capris (not denim of course) and a nice top acceptable? We are on the 4 day Dream. I don't think we have a formal night. Thanks!!

 

[eva]

What is the dress code for dinner? I don't want to be over or underdressed. Are nice capris (not denim of course) and a nice top acceptable? We are on the 4 day Dream. I don't think we have a formal night. Thanks!!

You'll be great! Just avoid shorts and you will fit right in.

 

[Wadekind]

You'll be great! Just avoid shorts and you will fit right in.

On our last cruise even if you DID wear shorts you would have fit in too.

 

[eva]

On our last cruise even if you DID wear shorts you would have fit in too.

Sorry, probably should had worded it different. Guess I should have said, "If you avoid wearing shorts you shouldn't have any problems with the recommended dress code."

 

[Wadekind]

What is the dress code for dinner? I don't want to be over or underdressed. Are nice capris (not denim of course) and a nice top acceptable? We are on the 4 day Dream. I don't think we have a formal night. Thanks!!

The suggested dress code is on the DCL website. From my experience you could wear anything but a bikini and still fit in at dinner.
You are around people you will probably never see again for the rest of your life so why worry about what they think about what you wear? Did they pay for your cruise? Its YOUR vacation. Wear what you want to and relax.

 

[stitchlovestink]

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Originally Posted by Wadekind

On our last cruise even if you DID wear shorts you would have fit in too.

Sorry, probably should had worded it different. Guess I should have said, "If you avoid wearing shorts you shouldn't have any problems with the recommended dress code."

And therein itself lies the problem...it is a RECOMMENDED dress code. One is specifically asked not to wear a few items such as swimwear, tank tops, actual flip flops, and maybe a couple of other other items...but it is not like Palo or Remy where you are given fairly clear expectations of acceptable dress. If they wanted to be more picky then they should spell it out. But honestly I think the people on here are way more opinionated about way is acceptable and care about it more than DCL does. I think they just don't want people showing up like they just left the pool deck. JMHO....


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[realityland]

The problem here is a lack of common sense among the "rule" breakers. I think most people understand the reasonably implied expectations that come with each rule, recommendation, policy, etc. But there is always some joker in the group that HAS to push it to the extreme limits. And there in lies the lack of common sense.

Want to bring a couple of bottles of wine with you to enjoy in your stateroom? No problem - very reasonable. Want to pack tons of alcohol and parade around public spaces on the ship with it? Not reasonable. But some people just either a) aren't that bright and just don't get it or b) have a blatant disregard for anything other than their own desires and indulgence. Some people just feel justified in doing whatever they want b/c "it's MY vacation" or " I paid all this money to be here."

Regarding the dress code - if you want to come to dinner looking like a bafoon, knock yourself out. If someone wants to come to dinner dressed the same way they would if they hit the McDonald's drive-thru - that's a problem with how that individual(s) thinks. And there is no policy that will fix someone's broken logic.

As long as it does not impose on my family's vacation, what others do is of zero concern to me.

 

[Raspberry Beret]

I think that statement is so sad.

What's so sad about that statement? It's the truth. Why make rules if you aren't going to enforce them?