Ladies!! Please, please,please talk with your spouses.

OP, I'm very sorry for your friend's loss.


The one thing dh has made sure of was is that I and the kids were taken care of in the event of his death because he is the only income we have. I also have a policy but it is not as large as dh's.
 
DH thought I was insane, but a few months after we got married I dragged him down to State Farm and got us both $250k policies. He said we didn't need it, we had no kids yet and he had insurance through work, and if I died he didn't care about gettting money. I told him that since he is diabetic, we needed to get him a policy while he was still young (33 at the time) and relatively healthy, if we waited we might not be able to get it or afford it even if a company was willing to insure him. As it was, his policy was 3x the cost of mine! I told him getting it now would mean we wouldn't have to worry about it once we had kids, it would be in place already.

You make a great point. Get life insurance while you are young and relatively healthy. Once you are diagnosed with something it will be much harder to get life insurance. DH has been disabled with a serious heart/lung illness for 7 years. Thank GOD we had insurance on him, because now he is uninsurable. We have kept insurance on me as well, because we still have two minor kids (one of whom is also disabled and will never live alone.) As long as we have responsibilities to our kids, we'll have insurance.
 
Good topic! I believe that couples should talk about ALL finances and and not just life insurance. A friend of mine married her high school sweetheart and after nearly 20 years together, he recently filed for divorce out of the blue.

Apparently, he had taken care of all the family finances and the wife was clueless about their financial situation....she barely new what bank their accounts were at. She had no idea what their financial situation was because she always just trusted him to take care of things. In her words "we will never get divorced and we'll be together till we die." Come to find out, hubby had been having an affair(s) and spending money like crazy. He completely cleared out their retirement account and savings account. Now she is left with no money and no job skills....Six months ago she thought her married life was perfect.
 
Great advice! Also, if you have had any life changes (ie divorce/marriage etc) check to see who you have listed as your beneficiary of your policies and accounts. Until just recently my exhusband was listed as my beneficiary for my 401k and life insurance through my work (1x my yearly salary- work pays for it). Yikes!:scared1: Missed changing that 8 years ago!

DH and I took out policies last year... it wasn't a fun thing to think about, but at least if something does happen the other will be ok and not have to worry about bills.

I don't know if you've remarried but... 401K policies automatically go to the spouse and pass outside of the will. If you've left a 401K to someone other than your spouse, your spouse has to sign a waiver giving up that money. So even if the beneficiary is someone other than a spouse (or is a past spouse but you've remarried) and the form is outdated, the money would still go to the current spouse unless that spousal waiver is signed.
 

Good topic! I believe that couples should talk about ALL finances and and not just life insurance. A friend of mine married her high school sweetheart and after nearly 20 years together, he recently filed for divorce out of the blue.

Apparently, he had taken care of all the family finances and the wife was clueless about their financial situation....she barely new what bank their accounts were at. She had no idea what their financial situation was because she always just trusted him to take care of things. In her words "we will never get divorced and we'll be together till we die." Come to find out, hubby had been having an affair(s) and spending money like crazy. He completely cleared out their retirement account and savings account. Now she is left with no money and no job skills....Six months ago she thought her married life was perfect.

I've seen this happy MANY times, even in my own family.

I had a co worker who didn't know ANYTHING about her finances. This was about 20 years ago. She let her husband "do it" because she wasn't good at it... :confused3

I told her the homeless shelters are full of women like you. :scared1: Sounded harsh but she straightened out QUICKLY.

She got in charge of her financial life. Found out LOTS of things that were happening she had no idea about.
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My dh and I have large policies. The cost is really minimal and we are protected if anything should happen to either one of us.

Yes, if you get them when you're young and healthy! :thumbsup2
 
I think ours is 20 years, one million on DH, half million on my (I'm a SAHM). You need more than just to cover the mortgage - you have to account for earning potential, or in my case, childcare, for the years your children will be at home. When it's time for a new policy, our financial needs will have changed with grown children, and we'll adjust it. He also has a small policy at work, but not nearly enough.
 
This is something my husband and I have always made sure of. We first took out life insurance policies when we bought our first house. We took out enough to pay off the house if one of us died. We were young and that was all we figured we needed. We have steadily raised it every few years to the point now if he dies I will never have to work if I don't want to. My husband will also have plenty too if something happens to me. You just never know. You would walk out today and get hit by a bus.

Also the younger you get insurance the cheaper. Mine has gone up every time we have added a policy. Even little comments from a doctor in a medical record can make a big difference in the rates.
 
I think ours is 20 years, one million on DH, half million on my (I'm a SAHM). You need more than just to cover the mortgage - you have to account for earning potential, or in my case, childcare, for the years your children will be at home. When it's time for a new policy, our financial needs will have changed with grown children, and we'll adjust it. He also has a small policy at work, but not nearly enough.

This is what my husband and I did. Thankfully we reconsidered years ago because 20 years just isnt long enough. At the time it seemed like it was! If we had waited till it was time to renew our rates would be astronomical.
 
I think ours is 20 years, one million on DH, half million on my (I'm a SAHM). You need more than just to cover the mortgage - you have to account for earning potential, or in my case, childcare, for the years your children will be at home. When it's time for a new policy, our financial needs will have changed with grown children, and we'll adjust it. He also has a small policy at work, but not nearly enough.

This is about what we have as well. I am also a SAHM to 2 (third on the way)...and we considered mortgage, debt, childcare..and anything else possible.

OP...I'm sorry about your friend, but this is a great topic for conversation. We got our policies early on...which is good b/c my DH has had two pulmonary embolisms, and it would be much higher now.
 
I'm always surprised to hear about women who have no idea of their family's financial situation. I handle all of our finances and investments, but if I didn't I'd make sure I knew what was going on. It would make me nervous not to know.

I have a neighbor who has no idea, trusts her husband to take care of everything and gets an "allowance" every payday. I don't understand that mindset.
 
I question my hubby all the time. WE took care of it early, I am a SAHM and haven't worked in 14 years. He wanted to make sure that I was taken care of in case anything ever happened to him. He jokes with me now, that he is worth more dead than alive. wouldn't have it that way at all, but it is nice to know that I don't have to worry if God forbid, something happened to him.
 
I'm always surprised to hear about women who have no idea of their family's financial situation. I handle all of our finances and investments, but if I didn't I'd make sure I knew what was going on. It would make me nervous not to know.

I have a neighbor who has no idea, trusts her husband to take care of everything and gets an "allowance" every payday. I don't understand that mindset.

I don't understand trusting either. My dad did take care of everything but sat down with my mom quite often, and also with the kids and explained everything that he had, where it was located and even listed all the ino on a computer printout.

As far as the "allowance" my mom had one, for lack of a better term. She was given a certain amount every pay day and all she had to do was buy food. The rest was hers. I can tell you that most people I know would be more than happy to have her allowance, she could buy almost anything that she wanted, within reason. And this way she didn't have to tell my dad what she was taking out of the acct and what it was for, it was hers to do with as she saw fit. Kind of like her pay for taking care of the house and the kids.
 
Sicne a few of you here seem to know insurance, what is the difference between term and whole life insurance?

I have one small one as whole, and it is time to look at changing our term insurance.

I always was told that whole was better but term was cheaper...
 
Sicne a few of you here seem to know insurance, what is the difference between term and whole life insurance?

I have one small one as whole, and it is time to look at changing our term insurance.

I always was told that whole was better but term was cheaper...

Term is better IMHO and most financial advisors I know tell you to buy term. I will let the experts give more info, as I am no expert at all. But we have term.
 
Sicne a few of you here seem to know insurance, what is the difference between term and whole life insurance?

I have one small one as whole, and it is time to look at changing our term insurance.

I always was told that whole was better but term was cheaper...

Wrong. Whole can be cashed out, but if you had put that money into another investment, it would be worth A LOT more. With term, it's pretty inexpensive, you only get the money if you die, but the payout is MUCH larger than what you would've gotten if you had spent the same amount on whole. DH is a CFP, and says that for most people, term is much better, and even if you have whole (my parents got it on me - I cashed it out years ago), you still need term.
 
I question my hubby all the time. WE took care of it early, I am a SAHM and haven't worked in 14 years. He wanted to make sure that I was taken care of in case anything ever happened to him. He jokes with me now, that he is worth more dead than alive. wouldn't have it that way at all, but it is nice to know that I don't have to worry if God forbid, something happened to him.

Hopefully - you have a policy as well. As a SAHM - your value to the household is priceless...
 
I work for a decent sized law firm and often help out in Trusts & Estates. My firm will do wills and POA as a courtesy to any employee. I still didn't have mine done until I already had both of my kids and my T&E partner made fun of me (and an example) in front of some clients, telling me to get it done the next day.

We made wills, POA and durable medicals. We also had insurance that we purchased when my older son was very young. We bought 10 year term. This year, the 10 years came up and we needed to purchase another policy. We doubled my coverage and increased the term to 20 year policies. The costs went up (we are 10 years older) + I was not as thin as I could have been; therefore my premium was higher.

Since then (December 2009), I have lost 30 lbs and at the end of the first year, I will provide a drs note detailing my lower weight to the insurance company, and my premium for the remaining 19 years will drop by about $80/mth. But we also redid our wills, and I insisted on changing the payout of the insurance proceeds to 50% for the kids, 50% to my husband, and the money goes into a testamentary trust in both cases.

In our house, I take care of all of the finances, have all the bank accounts, do all the bills, insurance, etc. DH knows nothing, says he can't understand it at all. Fine, so all of the papers are in the "important paper box." But one thing I did was think long and hard about my durable medical and changed it from dh to my mom and sister. I watched him last year when his mom was diagnosed with Stage 4 ovarian cancer and frankly, I don't want him making any medical decisions for me. He simply doesn't understand what the drs were telling him, he didn't know what questions to ask about her finances, how to proceed with care after the hospital, medicare, etc. It was sad, and I ended up having to do it. So I decided that I didn't want to leave any of those decisions to him and made it over to my mother and sister, who is smart and competent and will make the right choices.

As for the money, I have access to the lawyers, financial planners, bankers, insurance agents. He doesn't have a clue who any of them are, so I realized that having them hand him half a million dollars was not a smart decision, so it goes into split trusts. He and my sister are trustees for the kids (which means that anything other than basic care expenses must be approved by her) and he and my sister are trustees on the trust for him, protecting him from pulling a hunk of money and buying himself a new sports car and not having enough to cover necessary expenses down the road.

Now this is more than you wanted to know, but what I'm pointing out is that estate planning is more than buying life insurance. I also have through my job that will cover death expenses and provide some ready cash, but we have coverage until the boys are out of school. I also have the option to convert or add in the next few years and will do so as finances allow. But it's important to understand your spouse and know what they can handle and what they can't and make proper decisions so that if the time comes, they are protected from their own inabilities (if they have them).

As for the allowance issue, my mom always handled the finances in my home growing up. Dad gave her his paycheck and she gave him an allowance each week, to be used for certain things (his lunch out, newspaper, that sort of stuff). Anything left over was his. Over the years, he used his saved money to buy her lovely gifts for her birthday and anniversary, never having to use a credit card and she never knew what things cost. When he passed away, we found over $1000 in his bureau that he had saved, along with the receipts for all of the jewelry gifts he had bought mom over the years. For the next few years, mom would use that money to buy the kids gifts like bikes, saying it was from "Pop."

Thank you for posting this and opening peoples' eyes to something so important (even if it's uncomfortable for some). Please have this discussion with your spouse today.
 
I'm always surprised to hear about women who have no idea of their family's financial situation. I handle all of our finances and investments, but if I didn't I'd make sure I knew what was going on. It would make me nervous not to know.

I have a neighbor who has no idea, trusts her husband to take care of everything and gets an "allowance" every payday. I don't understand that mindset.

neither do I , but people get what they are willing to put up with!

It's not only women, I know a couple of guys in my job who say all the time they never see their paycheck. They say in goes into the joint account and the wife handles all the bills and budgeting.
 


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