Kyle, or Someone, can we get an assignment on Shutter Speed?

Pea-n-Me

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I'm terrible with shutter speed. I mean, I get the concept, but am terrible at actually applying it to my camera. I was hoping someone could craft an assignment so I (and whoever else wants to join in) can learn it once and for all.

:thanks:

PS Understanding Shutter Speed is on my Wish List this Christmas.

Any hints/techniques for how you work with shutter speed are welcome here.
 
I'm no good at coming up with detailed assignments but I would suggests attempting two different things.

1. Try to freeze motion of a fast moving object by setting the shutter speed.
2. Try to get running water to appear very smooth and indistinct by setting the shutter speed. Tip: you will need a tripod for this one.
 
I'm no good at coming up with detailed assignments but I would suggests attempting two different things.

1. Try to freeze motion of a fast moving object by setting the shutter speed.
2. Try to get running water to appear very smooth and indistinct by setting the shutter speed. Tip: you will need a tripod for this one.
I like the running water one, and in fact have done it successfully (have a thread floating around here somewhere). I've also done some experimenting with shutter speed with pretty good results.

What I want to be able to do, though, is *instinctually* know what shutter speed to pick, or at least start with - as part of the exposure of any given shot. As it is, I'm confused about it in making settings quickly. Practice will help, I think. I've been practicing, but I thought a "directed practice" would be really great, kind of like the one we did previously with aperture.
 

Good idea, I'll run it through my brain for a bit to get a good concept down of how to make the assignment.

When I was doing the assignments before I did it on a Monthly basis. We're now half way through Nov. Maybe make this particular assignment for the rest of the year, then also do a Holiday Assignment for December.

I dropped the ball on the assignments for a while, then someone came in and started doing a weekly assignment. Personally I had a hard time doing those as I don't always get out with my camera each week, but even then with those they stopped not long after they started up. Thus IMO a monthly gives more people more time to participate. I also tried to keep the assignments on the general side and less specific, again to try to attract more people and to get people out there using their camera's to get to know their camera's and what they can and can't do and what each individual can do.

Anyway, thats my thought.
 
I like the running water one, and in fact have done it successfully (have a thread floating around here somewhere). I've also done some experimenting with shutter speed with pretty good results.

What I want to be able to do, though, is *instinctually* know what shutter speed to pick, or at least start with - as part of the exposure of any given shot. As it is, I'm confused about it in making settings quickly. Practice will help, I think. I've been practicing, but I thought a "directed practice" would be really great, kind of like the one we did previously with aperture.

I missed the aperture assignment so I don't know how it was structured. As for having an instinctual understanding of shutter speed, you just have to set your camera to shutter priority and practice, practice, practice.

To be honest with you, I shoot in aperture priority most of the time so I don't have a real good feel for shutter speed either. :)
 
I think I missed the aperture one too. Anyone have a link for it or know which page I should start looking on? I'd be interested in an assignment for shutter speed too.

ETA: I found the aperture, depth of field asssignment. It was October 2007. Here is a link if anyone wanted to see it. http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1598986
 
The easiest way to understand the relation of aperture and shutter speed is to think of your sensor like your eye ball. They both work similarly and both are sensitive to light.

Your aperture is like your iris and pupil. When the light is low, think about how your iris/pupil opens up really wide to allow light to get to the optical nerve. Same as with your lens - you open up the lens really wide to get light to the sensor. When the light is bright, the exact opposite happens, the iris and pupil close down in order to protect the optical nerve.

Aperture also works with your depth of focus (DOF). When you squint and close down the amount of light hitting your iris/pupil you get everything in focus. When you open up really wide, and focus on one particular subject, everything else blurs (bokeh). So aperture effects your DOF.

Shutter speed can be thought sort of like your eyelid. When it is bright, your eyelids open and close quickly, or you squint, in order to only take in a little bit of light at a time. When it's darker, your eyelids are nice and open to get as much light in as possible.

A fast shutter will freeze action. Think of how a strobe light on a dance floor at a party might freeze action the section it fires. When you leave your shutter open for a longer period of time, the light is available to blur through - such as with movement, water, fireworks, etc. Through use of the shutter speed, you artistically choose how you want movement to be portrayed.

So based on what you know of how these things work together, you can then begin to make artist decisions on your image. Do you want a shallow DOF (open up your aperture) in order to freeze action with your shutter? Or do you want every aspect of your photograph in focus, but are willing to slow down your shutter by making some sort of concession (such as using a tripod or using your ISO which might produce noise)? Do you want to use your shutter to freeze action (fast shutter) or show some sort of motion (slow shutter)?

What you decide to use is dependent on what you are doing at the time, what you want your final product to look like and the limitations of your equipment.

For example....
Here, I wanted to isolate my subject using my DOF of my aperture:
ISO 200, f1.4, 1/2500 (notice the really fast shutter!)
WPD_0233.jpg


Here, I wanted to make sure that everything was in focus, I wanted to use a low ISO to decrease noise, and I wanted to shoot a busy location with a lot of people walking around. So I choose a long shutter knowing that there wasn't enough light shining on the people to have them show in the photo and the long exposure allowed me to keep my ISO low and my aperture high.
ISO 200, f22, 13 seconds
WPD_0469-1.jpg


Practicality wise, I wanted to shoot my toddler (who is a fast moving subject) so I focused on keeping my shutter speed higher. This froze her action her and the water movement in the fountain!
ISO 200, f2.8, 1/100
WPD_1361.jpg


Here, artistically, I decided I wanted to show the movement of the fireworks - so I chose a longer shutter, that would give me movement in the streaks.
ISO 200, f22, 1/1.6
WPD_0414-2.jpg


So for the assignment... start shooting things such as sports and fountains. When you start experimenting with these two fast moving subjects, you start to understand how your shutter works and how you can start to make artistic decisions based on what look you want to achieve on the other side.

Hope this helps!!

ETA: I just realized that I spent all the time writing this post and I didn't read yours close enough... you understand shutter. Hopefully my reply might help someone else... so sorry to write all this!! :)

But yeah, shoot fast moving objects, like on shutter priority, and start experimenting with long/short shutters and look at your outcome!
 
Hey, it all helps. :) Thanks, Susan.

Did you use a tripod for #s 2 and 4?

I will see if I can locate the old aperture assignment thread. Kyle did a nice job with those, and they were fun! Glad he's thinking about this one. :thumbsup2

OT, Pisco, how are those beautiful dogs (and other pets) of yours doing? Haven't seen any pictures in a while. ;)
 
Hey, it all helps. :) Thanks, Susan.

Did you use a tripod for #s 2 and 4?

I will see if I can locate the old aperture assignment thread. Kyle did a nice job with those, and they were fun! Glad he's thinking about this one. :thumbsup2
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OT, Pisco, how are those beautiful dogs (and other pets) of yours doing? Haven't seen any pictures in a while. ;)

Thanks for remembering that Pea. The whole zoo is doing well. All I really have for recent pictures of them are these two shots I took of the newest arrival with my new Lensbaby. His name is Graham and he is a one year old Shar-Pei mix.



 
The whole zoo is doing well. All I really have for recent pictures of them are these two shots I took of the newest arrival with my new Lensbaby. His name is Graham and he is a one year old Shar-Pei mix.



Awesome. :goodvibes
 
Well it took me quite a while but I finally tracked it down:

Photo Assignment: Depth of Field

In the process, I found a bunch of other assignment threads. I'm going to put them on The Learning Curve thread for safe keeping.

Thanks for all your work with these, Kyle!
 












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