King beds not available to 2 adults w/ small child?

[maxiesmom]

It's easy to Google Reedy Creek Improvement District. It is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Disney. The Fire Department is owned and run by Reedy Creek and Disney (oh, all right -- people hired or controlled by Disney) writes its own fire codes. From everything I can find out, the codes are extremely stringent. Great for safety, but also helpful when one wants to very carefully control room occupancy for reasons other than safety.

I'm waiting for sources and information other than "believe" "doubt" and "probably". Persuade me with facts, please, not opinions, guesses and assumptions!

In the end, does it matter why Disney limits the occupency of a king room to 2 adults? It does. The why is irrelevent. Disney could decide only a single person could be in a king room if they wanted to, they own the resorts. As with many of Disney's rules, we don't have to like them. But we do have to follow them if we choose to stay on their property.

 

[CleveRocks]

I'm waiting for sources and information other than "believe" "doubt" and "probably". Persuade me with facts, please, not opinions, guesses and assumptions!

Fact #1: Fire codes, shmire codes.

Fact #2: Disney decides who they do business with it.

Fact #3: The market has rewarded Disney resorts, not punished them.

Fact #4: Read Fact #2 and Fact #3.

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I don't know why this tailed into a debate about fire codes. As long as Disney is not denying a room to someone based on sex, race, religion, sexual orientation or whether or not they find Carrot Top funny, then they can make any rules they want and don't need to explain the reason(s) why.

I don't need to know how my pressing plastic squares turns into words that can be seen on computer screens in Philadelphia and Finland, I just need to know that I can do it.

 

[Deb & Bill]

#2. Go to the NFPA (National Fire Protection Association) website. You can take a peek at their codes. They have many, many of them. The Life Safety Code (NFPA 101) is the one most adopted and it references many other of the codes, such as the fire extinguisher code, fire sprinklers, NEC (National Electric Code - NFPA 70), etc. If you actually purchase an entire set of these codes (the full set), it will be about 20 books.

Disney fire codes might also reference the Uniform Building Code, the Southern Building Code or any other the Disney chooses to follow.

I reference NFPA nearly daily in my job and just figuring out what it really says or means can be hard. I usually use the LSC Handbook to help me with that or call one of my acquaintenances who is on one of the NFPA panels.

 

[minnie61650]

Would anyone like to provide sources for the following assertions:

1. Even though Disney owns Reedy Creek Improvement District I do believe it does not write its own fire codes. There are certain guidelines and regulations that even Disney must answer to........

I'm waiting for sources and information other than "believe" "doubt" and "probably". Persuade me with facts, please, not opinions, guesses and assumptions!

From this web site:

http://www.rcid.org/AboutUS_main.cfm

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PURPOSE
The Reedy Creek Improvement District, in accord with its enabling legislation, is responsible to the owners of land within the District and the public to provide for surface water control and drainage, utilities and mosquito control; roads and bridges; land use regulation and planning; fire protection; emergency medical services; environmental services; data collection and evaluation; building and other construction codes enforcement and inspections; and interface with local, regional, state and federal regulatory agencies.

As a special taxing district, The Reedy Creek Improvement District must operate in accordance with its charter and state laws governing such districts. Just as any city or county, the income is derived from taxes and fees imposed within its boundaries. In the case of the Reedy Creek Improvement District, the major portion of taxes are paid to the District by Walt Disney World Co. and other property owners, who also pay property taxes to Orange and Osceola Counties.........

 

[minnie61650]

Would anyone like to provide sources for the following assertions:

It's easy to Google Reedy Creek Improvement District. It is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Disney. The Fire Department is owned and run by Reedy Creek and Disney (oh, all right -- people hired or controlled by Disney) writes its own fire codes. From everything I can find out, the codes are extremely stringent. Great for safety, but also helpful when one wants to very carefully control room occupancy for reasons other than safety.

I know thatReedy Creek has it's own Fire Department that is run by Reedy Creek and Disney (oh, all right -- people hired or controlled by Disney).

Since my DH is a commerical builder (in Michigan not Reedy Creek) and has to comply to universal fire codes I am very interested in this subject.

I have serched many websites to find out if Reedy Creek would have the authority to write its own codes.

I have never found a source that states that the Reedy Creek Fire Deartment does indeed write it's own fire codes.

Please post a link that backs your statement up.

Thanks

 

[Allison]

I agree people can say what they want about fire codes but in the end it is irrelevant.

Disney owns the property so Disney makes the rules. If they say the occupancy of a king room is 2 people, then it is 2 people. It really doesn't matter why, it just matters that it is.

 

[Crazy Kanga]

Another reason that I haven't seen mentioned is that many of these rooms are wheelchair accessible rooms, so they may try to keep as many available for those families as posssible. Just a thought.

 

[Pooh&OurHunny]

When I made reservation, I requested for a king bed. My son was 2 at his first Disney trip and they gave us a king bed at the Grand Floridian. They did not give us any problems a few months later we went again and request for a king bed. They did state its a request only and see if they have ability. When you check in request for it. We just got back for my sons 3 trip and when we check in we were given a King Bed.

 

[LSchrow]

I'm kind of curious as to which resort the OP had this problem with, b/c I know before DD2 came along, we had no problem on multiple occassions getting a King room w/a crib for DD1 (I can specifically recall being at GF in Jan 07 for 3 nights where we enjoyed such a set up b/c we put the crib in the outer part of the bathroom so it was kind of like a mini-suite for us to enjoy our marina view...) so I'm wondering if this is a recent blanket policy change, a resort limited policy, or the whole day-bed thing (b/c I don't remember if we had one or not at the GF...we probably did, since I'm fairly clueless on such things.....great, now I have to go back and look at pictures to see if we had a couch in our room)...

Okay, I'm back...and after a pleasant trip down memory lane (complete with photos)..we obviously did have a couch in our room since I have a photo of DD1 running bare a** naked from us while we ran her bath & DW snapped a photo of DD1's bare booty making a bee-line for said couch before we caught her.... FWIW, I tried posting a copy of the pic here, but don't know how the bare baby bottom thing would go over, so I've thought better of it...(and my middle of the night mental musings are pretty OT anyhow)...

well, i certainly was entertained by your ramblings..

and glad that you decided not to post that revealing photo ~ you can bet that 10 years from now, that picture would reappear to bite your DD in said butt