Kindle? Why not a good old fashioned book?

I don't have one yet, but it's on my Christmas list! :goodvibes

For me, it's travel. Now any book I've purchased on my Kindle can go with me anywhere with ease. To waiting rooms, standing in line at the DMV, and especially vacations and trips out of town.

I love books, and once I have my Kindle I may still purchase physical books, but it will allow me to read in more places where taking a book can be a hassle, or I'll have it handy when I didn't think I'd want something to read and didn't think to grab one before leaving home.
 
What is the fascination with Kindle's and E-Readers? Why are they replacing books? I absolutely love my home library. When I read, I like holding a book and flipping the pages. It seems though, that books are becoming obsolete. What makes electronic books better than paper books?

I have a netbook that I take whenever I travel. I downloaded the Kindle app for pc for free and there are lots of free books for it...as well as being able to buy a book from my spot on the couch and have it within moments. Having my books on the netbook keeps me from having to lug the extra weight when I travel.
 
Instant gratification. No more needing to even wait a day or two for Amazon, or driving over to B&N or the library. See a book you want - you can be reading it in seconds.

Also the convenience of having a book always with you -- esp. for me, because we actually got rid of our Kindle and replaced it with the iPhone app. It works just as well for our purposes (although it's not the same as a Kindle) and I always have a library right in my purse or pocket. I'm actually reading a lot more than I was before.
 

My husband is ordering my kindle at the end of the week. I'm very excited. Right now I use my kindle app on my ipod and I love it but can't wait for my kindle.

I have so many free books that I downloaded from Amazon, books that I probably never would have read or would have looked like and thought they sounded interesting and then probably would have looked right over them for something I know I'd enjoy. I love being able to download sample chapter and usually that helps decided if I want to spend money on a book.

I live 45 minutes away from the closest book store. I don't have time to just run down there and spend time picking up books or browsing. Love that I can do that on Amazon and then have it right away if I like it.

The library is 20 minutes away and it's small and doesn't have a lot of books. So I don't go there unless I want to get books for my kids because they have a fantastic children's section.

I do not plan to stop buying books. I love books.

Another thing I love about the Kindle is the ability to reread my favorite books without them tearing from my use (I have some books that I've read so many times that I actually own multiple copies of because of how much I handle them and most have been put back together with tape).
 
Just wanted to share that Nook has page numbers, and they also let you loan your books to other Nook users. Also, you are able to get books from your libraries.
 
Just ordered mine with some of my grad school graduation money. My biggest reason is that War & Peace won't fit into my pocket. Nor will the entire collection of Jane Austen or Charles Dickens. ;) Some of what I do at work is "hurry up and wait" and I can't yank a paper book out and start reading it, but I can pull out a Kindle with a tad more professionalism. I also don't have to answer as to why I'm reading The Prince. :lmao:

The thing that swung me from the Nook to the Kindle is that the Kindle 3G does NOT need WiFi to operate its internet browser while the Nook does and there are times that I'm out in the area and need to look something up online. I hate pulling out my Droid and my work Blackberry is waaaayyyyy too slow, so I'm hoping this does the trick.

Other than that, I think the Nook would be a better choice for most readers with its expandable memory, somewhat larger collection, and ability to access library books as well as book-sharing, none of which really was enough to sway me away from the 3G/browser thing.
 
For me, it is pretty simple - I read maybe a dozen books a week and I was drowning in book-clutter. I have two walls of floor-to-ten-foot-ceiling bookshelves in my office, all full to overflowing, and there are more still to unpack from our move last summer. The local library helps some, but we're in a small town with limited offerings so I still end up buying a lot of books the library simply doesn't have. An e-reader - in my case, the Nook - allows me to do that without having to find space for them all!

I do prefer the feel of paper books and I don't think there will ever come a day when I completely get rid of my hard copy book collection or stop buying favorites in hardcover to add to that collection, but the Nook has been a great solution to my book-clutter problem when it comes to beach reads and trashy romances and topical/timely non-fiction and all those other one-time-through type books that would otherwise just pile up around me.
 
Instant gratification. No more needing to even wait a day or two for Amazon, or driving over to B&N or the library. See a book you want - you can be reading it in seconds.

Yeah, that's a nice perk too. Especially when you live in a town 20+ miles from the nearest major bookstore and have to wait for BN.com/Amazon.com orders to ship when you buy a paper book! :surfweb:
 
I absolutely love my home library.
I love READING, but I don't necessarily love OWNING books. I have never in my whole life owned enough bookshelves. I love that I can enjoy reading without physically collecting the books. Books in my Kindle don't get dusty, and they don't show wear and tear. Also, my enjoyment in owning the books doesn't balance out the environmental cost of cutting trees for books that'll be read once (maybe twice) in a lifetime.
When I read, I like holding a book and flipping the pages.
I don't -- especially at the beginning or the end of a 'specially fat book, when the book wants to close upon itself. If I put the book down, sometimes it closes, losing my place. I love that if I'm reading multiple books (say one with my class at school, one with my middle-school daughter for bedtime, and one for my own enjoyment), the Kindle "holds my place" in each book.
A Kindle is a book, its just condensed in format that makes it easier to carry your library with you.
We travel frequently, and I love that I can take literally hundreds of books along with me -- without adding weight or bulk to my suitcase!

I totally agree with you.
1. I can't afford a kindle gizmo.
2. If we lose power, as long as we have an oil lamp or candle, I can read.
3. I'm kinda old-fashioned and I like books too, as well as
keeping my budget tight and can't help but think
this whole electronic book thing is a racket:
you have to buy the books and I haven't seen any of these available at the library for free, like real books.
Not to mention, will the books be like the gaming systems where they are constantly being updated and old games
won't play on new players so you have to buy the new version of the same thing?
As long as I keep the wi-fi turned off, my Kindle's charge holds for just over two weeks. So unless we suffer a monumental power outage (perhaps after a blizzard here in North Carolina), I'm good.

No, book files are more like word processing files than video game files. To simplify, they don't have moving parts; thus, they're not going to become outdated. Furthermore, those files cannot be lost. If your Kindle is lost or destroyed, you still "have" all your books at Amazon.com -- you can buy a new Kindle, and one call to Customer Service will upload your entire library again.

Check out the Amazon.com library -- you'll find free books every day. I've had mine about a year and a half, and I have collected almost 200 free books. Some authors put their books up for free for a while (to get themselves into the best sellers category), others offer up one of their novels for free in hopes that you'll then pay for other books. The perception is that it's "just classics" like Dracula or Pride & Prejudice (though as an English teacher, I am attracted to those), but that's untrue: I've picked up all sorts of books for free. Right now Outlander is available for free (too bad for me it's been one of my ultra-favorites for about three years, and I already own the whole series). At New Year's the free book area was full of weight-loss books and year-through-the-Bible type books.
In a real book, I know about where in the book it was based on how far in I was but don't see how that would be easy with a kindle or variation.
The Kindle has a bar across the bottom of the screen, which shows you that you're 10% (or whatever number) through the book. Yes, it's different from a paper book, but it doesn't take much getting used to -- it's still a visual cue.
Also, "a kindle gizmo"? :confused3 Why do you call it that?
While I cannot know the poster's intention, I do know that people sometimes make up foolish or silly names for things they wish to degrade.
I was spending thousands a year on books and felt so guilty if I didn't finish a book that I didn't like, it felt like I had wasted that money so I would finish the book even if I didn't like it. Reading had become a chore. Now bad books go back unfinished guilt free.
One of the benefits of the Kindle is that it allows you to read the first 1-2 chapters of a book BEFORE you purchase it. This could be a money-saver for a person with the habit you're describing.
Instant gratification. No more needing to even wait a day or two for Amazon, or driving over to B&N or the library. See a book you want - you can be reading it in seconds.
This can be good or bad, depending upon how you look at it! Say you're on vacation, and you've just finished the first book in a series that you LOVE . . . you can have the next book in minutes. Or you can get that new gotta-have book at midnight on the night it becomes available. Or you can get it on the day you're stuck at home without a car.

The downside? It's so easy that you can spend more money than you intended.
The thing that swung me from the Nook to the Kindle is that the Kindle 3G does NOT need WiFi to operate its internet browser
Yes, I have purchased books on a train, in a car, in a dull meeting . . . all sorts of place where I don't have wi-fi. Having said that, I PREFER to buy from my computer rather than the Kindle itself. It's faster, and you can see the books in full color.
Other than that, I think the Nook would be a better choice for most readers with its expandable memory, somewhat larger collection, and ability to access library books as well as book-sharing, none of which really was enough to sway me away from the 3G/browser thing.
Clarification: My Kindle 2 holds 1500 books (some of the newer models have more than twice that). If I go over that number, I can "archive" some of them. This means they're "held for me" on Amazon.com, and I can pull them up again anytime I want -- so essentially the Kindle has unlimited memory.

People who are against e-readers haven't hit on the REAL problems with them -- probably because they're not the things you'd expect. And, to tell the truth, they're not problems so much as quirks. These are the things I don't like about my Kindle:

Although I have a couple versions of the Bible on my Kindle, I don't like to take it to church. It's not all that fast when you're trying to flip to this chapter and that verse. A paper Bible is faster. This is not a problem when you're reading along at your own pace at home -- just when you're listening to a sermon and the pastor expects you to be able to zip between Daniel and Revelations in a big hurry.

I don't like cookbooks in e-reader format. I want to see the whole recipe on one page -- preferably with a photograph next to it. And cookbooks are easier to sort in paper books.

I don't like books that're graphic-heavy on Kindle. For example, I just bought a book about square-foot gardening. I knew that it'd be full of diagrams and charts, which sometimes bump to the next page -- I knew that it'd be better in paper.

Some of my favorite books aren't yet available in e-format. I really want the Inkheart collection on my Kindle. I do have a bootleg version of the whole Harry Potter series, but it isn't as nice as the "real" e-books. The formating is lacking.

You'd probably loan a book you've finished to a friend, but you're not going to loan out your Kindle, and you can't easily pass around the files. Yes, Nook has the ability to do some sharing, but only with other Nook owners, who -- at this point -- are relatively few in number. It'll never be as easy to share e-books as it is to share paper books.

The biggest problem I've found is while I'm perfectly willing to leave a book lying by the pool or on the beach while I go for a swim, I can't do that with my Kindle.


Do you suppose this argument has been made at previous points in history?
Books? You'll never catch me reading them! Scrolls were good enough for my father, and I'll keep reading them!
Who's this Guttenburg with his moveable print? Why does he think that's better than engraving blocks of wood?
 
Also the convenience of having a book always with you -- esp. for me, because we actually got rid of our Kindle and replaced it with the iPhone app.

That's what my brother and his wife did. She won one at a work conference, but never really got into the actual physical object. She downloaded the iphone app, and then my brother was excited when the capability for his Blackberry was made...they then gave the actual Kindle to a paralegal in my sis in law's office.

I have no interest in reading on my phone and can't imagine a time that I would want to do it with the backlit screen...but it works for their eyes.


the lack of page numbers is about the one thing I don't like about my Kindle.
I do miss being able to glance down at a book and physically seeing I'm about 1/2way through.

For me, to do that, I like the Kindle better than a book! With a book, you'll have to go to the end, find out what page the story ends (I've been burned by mysteries with up to 30 pages of ads, coming soons, etc etc, at the back of a book) so that you know the context of how many pages left, and then you run the risk of seeing "who dunnit" when you read mysteries LOL. But with the K, you've got x out of y "locations" right there!

(though I will admit I got "burned" on the Kindle with the exact same issue with a mystery by Cleo Coyle last month! The actual ending was hundreds of "locations" before the actual last "location" number. Augh.)


How do you do this... I thought one of the problems with Kindles in the ability to share books. Do you all have to be on the same amazon account?

To share books on a Kindle you do have to be on the same account, but only for as long as it takes to download that book. So I de-register my Mom from her own Amazon account, register her on my account, send her the book ... and then send her Kindle back to her own account. It takes about 60 seconds.

Rita said it well. :)

My brother and his wife skip around accounts with her parents just like stated above.

I do realize that it can highlight, etc. & think that would be great for textbooks, etc. I never said it was limited, I just like being able to go back to about 1/3 of the beginning to see if the character was in X place or knew x person, whatever. Not info I know I want ahead of time, just info I don't quite remember if I'm reading a mystery & trying to figure out who is the killer. That type of stuff.

I always do that too. :) For me, it's easier with the Kindle. See, I am really into "control F" on my computer. Where I'm saying "I know it's there, so I'll just search for the word and I'll find it eventually". And I started doing that so often that when I'd read a DT book (love that, dead tree), or a book-book as I was calling them earlier, I'd start to yearn for the ability to "control F" for just the sort of thing you're talking about.

With the K, I just start typing the name of the person that I am wondering about...or just some interesting word that I remember was in the spot I'm thinking about. If Jenny was walking through the forest thinking about who killed Kevin, I'll type in "forest", and it brings up a list, with contextual sentences around it, of where "forest" is used in the book. I can find things VERY quickly doing that.




...and can't help but think
this whole electronic book thing is a racket:
you have to buy the books and I haven't seen any of these available at the library for free, like real books.

Not to mention, will the books be like the gaming systems where they are constantly being updated and old games
won't play on new players so you have to buy the new version of the same thing?


While the Kindle doesn't have the simple ability to get a library e-book, the Nook does.

And no, at least with the Kindle, the books you downloaded onto the original Kindle are still there, even though they have released the Kindle 3. You might *want* to upgrade, but you don't *have to*. And they do software updates/upgrades that you can get when you turn the connection on, so if they make changes, it'll go onto the old device.



Interestingly, the Kindle 1 had upgradable memory. Had a memory card. Hubby actually prefers the K1 b/c of that (and b/c he likes the feel and how it's shaped). For whatever reason, when they started on the next Kindle after that, they dumped the memory card.

But you can take books off of the device, and they are still stored on your account. You can access them simply, by connecting to your account (of course if memory on your device is at a premium, you'd probably have to move something else off the Kindle). So while you can't keep ALL of your books on it, if you have that many Kindle books, you can call them back to it pretty quickly!
 
I travel for work a lot. Monthly. In May, I was gone every week. I read fast and can easily blow through several books in a week. When traveling, the Kindle has all the books I can possibly want on it, thus eliminating the need to haul a bunch with me. It's also proven to be a wonderful distraction at my kids many soccer practices. Again, it's small enough that I can toss it in my bag with no problem
 
I'm a book lover.. Real, honest-to-goodness books.. I like the feel, the texture of the pages, the photos, etc.. I probably keep 99% of my books - always find room for them - many that I read over and over again.. I keep all reference books and non-fiction books as well..

Some books I take apart - to use the photos in scrapbooks and such.. 99% of my books I purchase used - 25 cents in garage sales, sometimes a huge box full for $1.. I buy used books for a 75 cents each to a couple of bucks on half.com by using the multiple seller option.. Aside from receiving letters in the mail, nothing makes my day more than receiving several books in the mail all at once..:goodvibes :yay::yay::yay::yay:

I could never switch to electronic versions.. To me a "book" isn't a "book" unless it's a "real" book - in my hands..:thumbsup2

I'm sure that others enjoy their versions for whatever reasons, but they're just not for me..:goodvibes
 
I was you, less than a year ago. I even posted your exact works right here on the Dis. Thought my sister was just buying another new gadget. Then I used a Kindle (they have so many great free books, I'll seldom buy an ebook) and I was hooked. Dentist, doctor, airplane, anywhere I go, except the beach (then I bring a throway) it can be with me. I can pull out this light little Kindle anywhere I am. I like it so much, I bought them for the adult girls in my family for Christmas. The battery lasts (on the Kindle 3) for a long time..way longer than any of the week long outages we have had.

What was I thinking, having all these books lying around, when they can all be on this small, light, fun to read Kindle. The amount of room in my home, now that I sold most of my books at a garage sale is wonderful (I did save a few for the beach).

I am just surprised at the wonderful free books, many sites that Disboard people have posted. Great books that I would have not thought to try.

I truly was you, wanted to hold it in my hands, feel the pages, etc etc. But that was before I actually used the Kindle. Now I am a believer. I read several books a week, and can't imagine having them all over the house any more.

Another fan of paper books. I discussed this in an online class this summer. In the e-book favor - you can travel easily w/one and that would be the only appeal for me. Our library does carrry e-books, you get them downloaded for 2 weeks, then it disappears.

I don't have a reader and have no plans to get one. I also love the feel of books and like to be able to refer back to previous sections sometimes. In a real book, I know about where in the book it was based on how far in I was but don't see how that would be easy with a kindle or variation. It will be interesting to see where the industry goes with books.

My younger kids don't bring textbooks home, they log in online for assignments. My oldest still lugs books around in HS, not sure why the HS doesn't go to online access because those are huge, heavy books.
 
And I love it. I was running out of room in my house for books. I'm a keeper. LOL. So it was my only choice at this point. I still buy certain books that I collect in series. And then there are the signed copies I get.

I have thousand of books. No kidding.
Nancy
 
I am a librarian and I freely admit the Kindle/ereaders worry me. I am very worried that libraries really will now become obsolete and I will eventually be out of a job. I keep thinking that if I need to find a new profession, I better start looking and training soon! But so far at my library, we have many people (lots of immigrants) who don't have internet, let alone afford electronic luxuries and buy ebooks. So we are still busy.

My other concern with getting a Kindle is that I would be afraid the format may go obsolete one day. How many of us rebought our favorite VHS movies on DVD? My 8mm home movie tapes are the same way. I want to actually own my book and have it be an actual tangable item. I would worry if all the books I buy in digital format may "poof" away someday, or if the Kindle/Nook/e-reader companies gets bought or changes hands, would that affect my digital book investment. Or if you drop and break the thing. But I suspect the ereader will kill the book store before the library (since books are free there).

Yeah, I admit the whole ereader thing scares me! :headache:
 
I was a little unsure about getting a kindle or a Nook....but I decided to get a Nook. My husband travels a lot for business and he loves to take it with him. I love the fact that I can check out a book at my library and read it on my Nook.

It was expensive...$162.41. However, I cashed in my CC rewards, Swagbucks and Mypoints and I wound up paying only $12.41 of the price. That didn't bother me so much!!!!!

However, I am an AVID book collector and I still buy them all the time!
 
What is the fascination with Kindle's and E-Readers? Why are they replacing books? I absolutely love my home library. When I read, I like holding a book and flipping the pages. It seems though, that books are becoming obsolete. What makes electronic books better than paper books?

I really do agree with you. It's just that while I love having a collection of books for re-reading, I'm running out of room for them all. Even if I get a Kindle (and I'm still only thinking about it), I'll still buy "real" copies of the truly special books.
 
I am torn between getting a Kindle or another type of book reader or not. I buy & read a lot of books, but I also borrow them out. My DD's, I lend them to my mom, neighbors, friends, etc., so I'm not sold mainly because of that.

However, I really like the idea of having one "book' to take on vacation instead of a stack of them. I'm heading to Florida for almost a month over Christmas & I'm going to have to pack about 10 or more books to read. That's a lot of suitcase space.

I was looking at the IPad yesterday & really liked the way the books was "presented" on the screen. I'm just not fully convinced that I'm ready to take the plunge yet. :confused3
 
I was a little unsure about getting a kindle or a Nook....but I decided to get a Nook. My husband travels a lot for business and he loves to take it with him. I love the fact that I can check out a book at my library and read it on my Nook.

It was expensive...$162.41. However, I cashed in my CC rewards, Swagbucks and Mypoints and I wound up paying only $12.41 of the price. That didn't bother me so much!!!!!

However, I am an AVID book collector and I still buy them all the time!
So, how do you do this on the Nook? Do you rent them or are they free from the library?

Do they have newer releases that you can get from your library? Do you have to go to the library to get it?
 












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