Kerry for the middle class?

A Plan To Strengthen The Middle Class
In America, anyone who works hard, lives responsibly, and does right by their family and their country - anyone who does the best with what they've got - should be rewarded with the opportunity to build a better life for themselves and their families. That principle is what has made the American middle class the greatest engine of economic strength the world has ever known - and it's the heart of John Kerry and John Edwards' vision for a stronger America.

Today, American families - pinched by sagging wages and rising costs - are feeling the middle class squeeze. Today, the cost of raising a middle-class child until age 18 in America exceeds $200,000 - and that doesn't include the cost of college. Families with children are especially hard hit by rising costs in everything from health insurance premiums, college tuition, and energy use. At the same time, median family income has dropped by nearly $1,500 since 2000.

John Kerry and John Edwards will work to expand and strengthen America's middle class like never before. They will (1) cut middle class taxes, (2) cuts costs in everything from health care to education to gas, (3) close the pay gap between men and women, (4) raise the minimum wage, and (5) help all Americans balance the competing demands of work and family.


Cut Middle-Class Taxes to Raise Middle-Class Incomes
John Kerry Will Cut Taxes for 98 Percent of American Families and 99 Percent of Businesses. In addition, he will:

Propose At Least $250 Billion In Tax Cuts For Health Care, Child Care, and Education - Without Increasing the Deficit By One Dime. As president, John Kerry will close corporate tax loopholes and use some of the money gained from repealing Bush's tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans - families making over $200,000 a year - to pay for tax credits without increasing the deficit by one dime. The Kerry-Edwards tax cuts include:

A tax credit on up to $4,000 of college tuition
A tax credit to help small businesses and vulnerable workers pay for health care and buy into John Kerry's new Congressional Health Plan.

Unable to afford college. This would help me


A tax credit on $5,000 of child care expenses
Create a New Jobs Tax Credit. Research has demonstrated that new jobs tax credits increase employment. The Kerry-Edwards New Jobs Tax Credit will cover an employer's share of payroll taxes for net new jobs created in manufacturing, other businesses affected by outsourcing, and small businesses. The credit will be available in 2005 and 2006. For example: a medium-sized manufacturing company employs 1,000 workers. If this company hires an additional 100 employees at $40,000 each - bringing the total number of employees to 1,100 - it would receive a tax cut of 3,060 per worker, or $306,000 total. This would roughly offset the additional cost of health care premiums, which have risen about $2,700 under President Bush.

DH&I plan on having kids and utilizing child care. Something that would help me

Cut Costs for Middle-Class Families
John Kerry and John Edwards will:

Cut Health Care Premiums By Up To $1,000. Under the Kerry-Edwards plan, employers will benefit from offering their employees quality care with choices. By helping out with certain high-cost cases, the Kerry-Edwards plan will cut premiums by up to $1,000 per year for America's families.

All ready have low insurance thanks to working in education, but I know this would help a lot of other people

Lower Energy Prices. By investing in new energy sources and technologies, John Kerry and John Edwards will help America move toward energy independence while lowering costs, spurring job growth, and protecting our environment.

Very important to me. I would like to see a marketable energy alternative.

Cut Tuition Costs. Average tuition and fees at public four-year colleges increased by 35 percent over the last four years. Because of tuition increases, an estimated 220,000 young people could not afford to enroll in four-year public universities last year. As president, John Kerry will offer a fully refundable College Opportunity Tax Credit on $4,000 of tuition for every year of college and offer $10 billion in fiscal relief to states that restrain tuition growth. And he will launch a new National Service Plan that will allow young people to pay for college by serving their country.

Again this would help me as I would like to finish school but can't afford it.

Affordable Housing. John Kerry has a long history of working to make housing more affordable and increase homeownership for all Americans. As president, he will continue to fight for affordable housing. Read John Kerry's Housing Record

I live in an area where housing prices are through the roof. Mortgage rates could be lower and it doesn't matter if the housing prices are rising.

Ensure Equal Pay for Men and Women
On average, women still earn only 77 cents for every dollar earned by men. John Kerry and John Edwards believe that we must make equal pay for equal work a reality, not a slogan. They will ensure greater transparency and fairness by improving enforcement and disclosure about companies' payment practices.

This again would help me.


Raise the Minimum Wage
Today, the minimum wage is currently worth only 33 percent of average American wages - its lowest level since 1949. John Kerry and John Edwards understand that today's eroded wage no longer meet the needs of American families. As president, John Kerry will increase the minimum wage from $5.15 to $7.00 by 2007. That will give 7 million Americans a raise, and help millions of families pay for basic needs like education, food and health care. With this increase, parents working full-time will not have to raise their children in poverty.

wouldn't affect me directly, but I know a lot of people struggling to make ends meet earning minimum wage since they lost their jobs in the tech bust and are having problems finding another one.
 
Originally posted by jrydberg
Point, caitycaity!

I agree as well.

While I appreciate all of the posts of Kerry's campaign promises and his plans for the middle class (seriously, no sarcasm), that still doesn't tell me why I should believe him. He had the opportunity to vote for real, cash-in-the-bank help for middle class families, and he chose not to. If he was truly interested in helping middle class families, why did he vote that way?

As for his plans, sorry, but I'm not a fan of targeted tax cuts. And I'm especially opposed to any kind of refundable tax credit. People that aren't paying taxes should NOT be getting a "refund" check in the mail at tax time. If a credit takes their tax burden down to zero, that's great, but it should stop there. We absolutely don't need yet another form of welfare in this country disguised as tax policy.
 
Originally posted by Crankyshank
A Plan To Strengthen The Middle Class
In America, anyone who works hard, lives responsibly, and does right by their family and their country - anyone who does the best with what they've got - should be rewarded with the opportunity to build a better life for themselves and their families. That principle is what has made the American middle class the greatest engine of economic strength the world has ever known - and it's the heart of John Kerry and John Edwards' vision for a stronger America.

Today, American families - pinched by sagging wages and rising costs - are feeling the middle class squeeze. Today, the cost of raising a middle-class child until age 18 in America exceeds $200,000 - and that doesn't include the cost of college. Families with children are especially hard hit by rising costs in everything from health insurance premiums, college tuition, and energy use. At the same time, median family income has dropped by nearly $1,500 since 2000.

John Kerry and John Edwards will work to expand and strengthen America's middle class like never before. They will (1) cut middle class taxes, (2) cuts costs in everything from health care to education to gas, (3) close the pay gap between men and women, (4) raise the minimum wage, and (5) help all Americans balance the competing demands of work and family.


Cut Middle-Class Taxes to Raise Middle-Class Incomes
John Kerry Will Cut Taxes for 98 Percent of American Families and 99 Percent of Businesses. In addition, he will:

Propose At Least $250 Billion In Tax Cuts For Health Care, Child Care, and Education - Without Increasing the Deficit By One Dime. As president, John Kerry will close corporate tax loopholes and use some of the money gained from repealing Bush's tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans - families making over $200,000 a year - to pay for tax credits without increasing the deficit by one dime. The Kerry-Edwards tax cuts include:

A tax credit on up to $4,000 of college tuition
A tax credit to help small businesses and vulnerable workers pay for health care and buy into John Kerry's new Congressional Health Plan.

Unable to afford college. This would help me


A tax credit on $5,000 of child care expenses
Create a New Jobs Tax Credit. Research has demonstrated that new jobs tax credits increase employment. The Kerry-Edwards New Jobs Tax Credit will cover an employer's share of payroll taxes for net new jobs created in manufacturing, other businesses affected by outsourcing, and small businesses. The credit will be available in 2005 and 2006. For example: a medium-sized manufacturing company employs 1,000 workers. If this company hires an additional 100 employees at $40,000 each - bringing the total number of employees to 1,100 - it would receive a tax cut of 3,060 per worker, or $306,000 total. This would roughly offset the additional cost of health care premiums, which have risen about $2,700 under President Bush.

DH&I plan on having kids and utilizing child care. Something that would help me

Cut Costs for Middle-Class Families
John Kerry and John Edwards will:

Cut Health Care Premiums By Up To $1,000. Under the Kerry-Edwards plan, employers will benefit from offering their employees quality care with choices. By helping out with certain high-cost cases, the Kerry-Edwards plan will cut premiums by up to $1,000 per year for America's families.

All ready have low insurance thanks to working in education, but I know this would help a lot of other people

Lower Energy Prices. By investing in new energy sources and technologies, John Kerry and John Edwards will help America move toward energy independence while lowering costs, spurring job growth, and protecting our environment.

Very important to me. I would like to see a marketable energy alternative.

Cut Tuition Costs. Average tuition and fees at public four-year colleges increased by 35 percent over the last four years. Because of tuition increases, an estimated 220,000 young people could not afford to enroll in four-year public universities last year. As president, John Kerry will offer a fully refundable College Opportunity Tax Credit on $4,000 of tuition for every year of college and offer $10 billion in fiscal relief to states that restrain tuition growth. And he will launch a new National Service Plan that will allow young people to pay for college by serving their country.

Again this would help me as I would like to finish school but can't afford it.

Affordable Housing. John Kerry has a long history of working to make housing more affordable and increase homeownership for all Americans. As president, he will continue to fight for affordable housing. Read John Kerry's Housing Record

I live in an area where housing prices are through the roof. Mortgage rates could be lower and it doesn't matter if the housing prices are rising.

Ensure Equal Pay for Men and Women
On average, women still earn only 77 cents for every dollar earned by men. John Kerry and John Edwards believe that we must make equal pay for equal work a reality, not a slogan. They will ensure greater transparency and fairness by improving enforcement and disclosure about companies' payment practices.

This again would help me.


Raise the Minimum Wage
Today, the minimum wage is currently worth only 33 percent of average American wages - its lowest level since 1949. John Kerry and John Edwards understand that today's eroded wage no longer meet the needs of American families. As president, John Kerry will increase the minimum wage from $5.15 to $7.00 by 2007. That will give 7 million Americans a raise, and help millions of families pay for basic needs like education, food and health care. With this increase, parents working full-time will not have to raise their children in poverty.

wouldn't affect me directly, but I know a lot of people struggling to make ends meet earning minimum wage since they lost their jobs in the tech bust and are having problems finding another one.

Keep in mind IF Kerry wins (and that is a big IF), AND Congress remains Rep, very little of this will get done.

One can only hope!

As and aside: So, given that the President is CiC would one rather have GWB as President and a Democratic Congress, or Kerry as Pres and Congress as Rep? So gridlock with a CiC with GWOT expience or gridlock with a CiC with no GWOT experience?
 
Here's what kerry had to say back in Feb :tounge:
Kerry: Americans Don’t Need High Incomes
(2004-02-16) – Democrat presidential frontrunner John Forbes
Kerry, who favors raising taxes on families that earn more than
$200,000 annually, said today that “ordinary American families
don’t need that kind of loot.”
“There’s no legitimate reason why a commoner needs that
much cash,” said the multimillionaire senator who married the
heiress of the Heinz food fortune. “Joe and Sally Sixpack would
just waste the money on bland food, mall-store clothing, cookiecutter homes, tacky decorative items and education for their
mediocre spawn.”
Mr. Kerry said that raising taxes on anyone who crosses the
$200,000 threshold would “disincentify common folks from earning
too much,” thus reducing the demand for “crass products.”
“Higher taxes on such people will help prevent the debasing
of our culture, and put us on the road to becoming more like
Europe,” he said.
 

I live in an area where housing prices are through the roof. Mortgage rates could be lower and it doesn't matter if the housing prices are rising.

Same here, but you can't control rising housing prices unless you are willing to allow government to place ceilings on what people can sell their own property for. Are you in favor of such price controls?

This again would help me.
(In reference to equal pay for equal work).

How so? If you currently aren't making the same as a man that is doing the same job as you at the same location, then you should file suit against your employer. I don't see that Kerry is offering anything here that isn't already available, since he can't go in and tell employers what they must pay. The laws are already on the books, and if your employer is violating those laws, you should absolutely take action.
 
Affordable Housing. John Kerry has a long history of working to make housing more affordable and increase homeownership for all Americans. As president, he will continue to fight for affordable housing. Read John Kerry's Housing Record
I live in an area where housing prices are through the roof. Mortgage rates could be lower and it doesn't matter if the housing prices are rising.

Well, I don't see how Kerry can do anything about that and if he proposes so than tha's just plain ridiclous!

Raise the Minimum Wage.
Today, the minimum wage is currently worth only 33 percent of average American wages - its lowest level since 1949. John Kerry and John Edwards understand that today's eroded wage no longer meet the needs of American families. As president, John Kerry will increase the minimum wage from $5.15 to $7.00 by 2007

That's really going to hurt alot of small and mom and pop businesses. Probably enough to put them under.
 
Actually, my biggest thing about his tax plan is the educational benefits, but here we go:
In my area there is lack of afforable housing period.
No section 8 - nothing. Elderly are losing their houses because they can't live on their own and don't need nursing home care, but there are no places for them to go. Affordable housing means apartments- not just houses. I don't see anything wrong with a certain percentage of apartments being set aside for low income housing.

Especially in places like Nantucket, MA - the fastest growing county in the state and one of the fastest in the country. where they are having difficulty keeping health care workers and police officers because the lack of affordable housing. Doesn't seem to make much sense to live 40 miles out in the middle of the ocean and that the people who are there to protect and serve you have to live an hour boat ride away because the average rent is $2500/month.

As far as equal pay, it's not affecting me in my current job but it certainly did in my last. It's against the law to disclose what you earn, which makes it extremely difficult to prove you are not earning equal to someone else. However, it has been repeatedly documented that women do make less than men. It's akin to a dirty little secret that everyone knows about but no one does anything about.

I'm voting for Kerry because I feel he best represents my politics and will serve my family's interest better. You might disagree and that's fine. Whatever works for you. I refuse to justify why I'm voting the way I am
I just don't need to sit and debate to death whether or not he's lying or whether or not he's going to fullfill every promise. No politician can do that. I'm voting for the total picture. I don't understand why people can't seem to accept that people have different ideas of better and there's nothing wrong with that.
 
Originally posted by Crankyshank

I'm voting for Kerry because I feel he best represents my politics and will serve my family's interest better. You might disagree and that's fine. Whatever works for you. I refuse to justify why I'm voting the way I am
I just don't need to sit and debate to death whether or not he's lying or whether or not he's going to fullfill every promise. No politician can do that. I'm voting for the total picture. I don't understand why people can't seem to accept that people have different ideas of better and there's nothing wrong with that.

I feel the same way about Bush. That's why all these posts and threads bother me after awhile. (but yet I can't stay away:crazy: :crazy: ) At this stage I can't see anything posted here changing anyones mind.
 
I completely agree with you Nancy.
Seriously, we all have different criteria and different importance rankings on issues. It doesn't make anyone a lesser person for voting differently - it just makes you a person with different opinions on what is important.
 
I'm voting for Kerry because I feel he best represents my politics and will serve my family's interest better. You might disagree and that's fine. Whatever works for you. I refuse to justify why I'm voting the way I am

I certainly wasn't asking you to justify why you are voting for Kerry, because it's none of my business. As I said at the beginning of this thread, it was started in order to respond to something on the "Kerry Only" thread. If you feel like responding, as you obviously did, great. If not, that's fine too.

I don't understand why people can't seem to accept that people have different ideas of better and there's nothing wrong with that.

ITA, and I do accept that people have different ideas of better, and there is nothing wrong with that. But I don't think that means that I shouldn't be able to point out areas of disagreement in a respectful way, which I've done.
 
I was refering to the general atmosphere of the DIS, not the thread in particular.

When you're constantly being slapped when you approach something, it makes you hesitant to approach it again ;)

ETA- I don't think any of us are under the illusion that if Kerry were elected all of his campaign promises will be fullfilled, but I can't base my vote on what will happen because I'm not psychic. Kerry's plan (in theory) would be a huge benefit to me - even if only the college tax credit came to pass.
 
Buck naked- I had a question for you about your political views. If that is okay?:)

Do you feel that politics influences other areas in life like social and occupational issues? If so, do your political views conflict with nude, dancing, sunbathing and the other "nude" thing that you had in your profile?

I am just curious because I know some other "nude" advocates that are exceedingly liberal. Thanks!:sunny:
 
I wanted to chime in to say that I agree with what dmadman said as well, i.e., if Republicans keep control of Congress, a Kerry presidency wouldn't be quite as bad. So if Kerry wins next week, I'm going to be in the sad position of hoping for 4 years of gridlock in Congress when it comes to his social and tax programs.
 
Originally posted by minniepumpernickel
Buck naked- I had a question for you about your political views. If that is okay?:)

Do you feel that politics influences other areas in life like social and occupational issues? If so, do your political views conflict with nude, dancing, sunbathing and the other "nude" thing that you had in your profile?

I am just curious because I know some other "nude" advocates that are exceedingly liberal. Thanks!:sunny:

Hmm, good question...I'm not sure. Does being a piece of bread influence other areas in your life? ;)
 
Originally posted by BuckNaked
Hmm, good question...I'm not sure. Does being a piece of bread influence other areas in your life? ;)

Well I didn't put "bread" under occupation. You put nude dancer. I took you seriously, so you really aren't a nude dancer? :earseek:
 
Originally posted by minniepumpernickel
Well I didn't put "bread" under occupation. You put nude dancer. I took you seriously, so you really aren't a nude dancer? :earseek:

It's part of the total package. :D
 
Quite frankly, I think that very few higher level political candidates are for the middle class. Usually, when someone gets to the level of having the ability to run for President, VP etc, they are fairly well-to-do financially. Many members of Congress ,Senate etc are also fairly well-to-do, especially those that are longer-term members.

My guess is that they will vote for something that would benefit the middle class only if it is not going to harm them financially in any way.

I also don't think that a man who's got several homes and a wealthy wife worth billions of $$ or a man who owns a large ranch and has a net worth of at least millions of $$ have any idea what it's like to even be "middle class".
 
Originally posted by Crankyshank
Actually what was preventing me from responding to this thread is the enjoyment of watching you guys get all in a tizzy because no one was responding.

It was like spastic sharks circling the tank. I'm kind of disappointed Denise posted. Most of us are avoiding posting to these threads not because of a lack of an answer, but more because it's a waste of time. Why waste the effort in a thoughtful response to a question when it's just going to get attacked and written off?

Sorry to disappoint you my friend.

I think that there are some good questions here and minus the remarks, these are mostly good people here. I think that the info and links I left may be helpful, at least I hope so.

I really support John Kerry for President and felt compelled to respond the best that I could even if no one cares to "listen".
 
no kids in college here
I don't use child care
This then will be a choice made by my employer, not mandated by law
I have a house and since GWB has been in office mortgage rates have fallen so housing is much more affordable. How does he plan to make it more so???
I don't work, I'm disabled....again, it doesn't help us

Good none of those programs work for you - then vote for Bush. But don't belittle those of us that might actually agree with some of these points because they DO affect us. The arrogance of your post is unbelievable!

Mortgage rates fell due to a deficit and nothing to do with GWB. That does not automatically make housing affordable. I sell mortgages for a living - do you know how many people I deny a loan to everyday? There are issues like down payment, closing cost, and income qualifications. Don't tell me that housing is affordable when my Mother can't get a loan for a house! Ya know why? Because she has 2 jobs. One full time and one part time. She has only had the part time job for a year and therefore her income cannot be considered on a loan application. However in applying for some government assistance to come up with the down payment money she was denied because her part time income put her over the threshold. Good that you have a house - count your blessing because not everyone is as fortunate as yourself.

And what if you work for an employer that does not provide health insurance? What then? Please tell me how you would afford to pay for health insurance then? Especially since the cost of health care increases every year for those of us who do have it becuase we eventually pay for those that don't have health care but receive medical attention.

You don't work so equal pay for equal work doesn't affect you. Do me a favor and explain that to your children and grandchildren that are girls.



~Amanda
 


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