Just need to vent a bit...

[grimley1968]

We are a family of 5 also. We tried POR last Oct..didn't knock our socks off but there is no other choice in moderates. Since POFQ, & CS, CBR (CBR rooms are slightly larger) are all around the same square footage, I wonder why they all cannot have at least some rooms with a trundle like POR? It would be nice (not even for the money..just for variety) to have more moderates that can accomodate 5 guests like POR does).

CSR has suites that sleep up to 6 people. It costs more than a standard room, but at least you only need one room.

 

[disneyjunkie]

That's exactly my point!

I can't wait to hear the uproar when a family with two kids books a value suite so they can each have their own bed and someone with four kids is unable to book for that same time frame.

Anne

I better go out and purchase a flame resistant suit.

If/when CRO starts booking the value suites, I will definitely book one for my son and I.

Two TVs, two bathrooms, a kitchenette, onsite, for a value price, pure heaven.

 

[grimley1968]

I better go out and purchase a flame resistant suit.

If/when CRO starts booking the value suites, I will definitely book one for my son and I.

Two TVs, two bathrooms, a kitchenette, onsite, for a value price, pure heaven.

You can rest assured that Disney will not be letting people rent suites, even on value properties, for a "value" price. Look at the suite pricing for CSR and you'll see what I mean. Those suites are definitely out of the "moderate" price range and well into "deluxe".

 

[rileyroosmom]

This is a definite hot post!!! Everyone get along!! Don't judge others, treat others as you would like to be treated, etc...

Tho OP would like more options, that's all. I agree. I also have 5 and Disney does not offer a lot of choices. Many, many hotels provide a roll a way for a price, yet Disney does not do that. I have stayed at the moderates when my youngest was under 3. If I can have 4 and a pack and play, why can't I have 4 and a roll away? Fire codes is Disney's answer, yet I still would have to get 5 out of the room in a fire, even if my daughter is under 3 (or should I leave that lifestyle choice behind? Thus eliminating my 5 to a room problem forever??) Disney acts as if under 3 is not a person. Aren't there many states in the process of changing the law so if a pregnant woman is murdered, the guilty party will be charged with 2 murders? So I don't understand why Disney allows an under 3 child in the room.

I have also stayed at the Poly, it was a beautiful resort and I'm glad I was able to stay there, I just don't choose to be forced to pay almost $3,000 for the room alone so my family can stay together. This trip we will be staying in a pool home. I'm anxious to see how it compares to the Disney hotels.

I think Disney should realize that many, many families are larger than 4. Notice all their advertising, it always shows a family of 4.

Ducklite - I think you don't have children and therefor should tread a little softer on this subject. There are a lot of mama lions out there ready to protect their cub! And your dollar and cents doesn't make sense to me. You keep saying a smaller family has more disposable income and will spend more at Disney. That is not true at all. What about the 3 person family that is making $35,000/year. Do they really have more disposable income than a family of 6 making $300,000 a year? I think not. Also, you don't know what my family of 5 spends at Disney. I do many TS meals, gifts, mouse boat rentals, toys, etc. No matter how you slice it, the more you have the more you pay.

Thanks for letting me vent!!

 

[disneyjunkie]

You can rest assured that Disney will not be letting people rent suites, even on value properties, for a "value" price. Look at the suite pricing for CSR and you'll see what I mean. Those suites are definitely out of the "moderate" price range and well into "deluxe".

When I said value price, I meant compared to the prices at the deluxe resorts.


I assume the suites at CSR were built with business travelers in mind.

 

[grimley1968]

I assume the suites at CSR were built with business travelers in mind.

I don't think so. I guess it would be nice, but why would a business foot the bill for someone to stay in a room that sleeps 6, when they could pay about half that amount for a room that sleeps 4? Most business travelers get their own rooms anyway, so room for 6 people is unnecessary for a lone traveler, when room for 4 will more than suffice.

Anyway, you can book a CSR suite right on the Disney website. If it weren't meant for the vacationing public, I don't think they'd list them on that site.

I think the CSR suites were meant exactly for situations like the OP's: families that have more than 4 people. I just wish they'd build more of these in other resorts. Personally, I wouldn't want to try to cram 5 people in a room at POR. I'd rather have a suite like they have at CBR, and be able to spread out a tad.

 

[robinb]

I don't think so. I guess it would be nice, but why would a business foot the bill for someone to stay in a room that sleeps 6, when they could pay about half that amount for a room that sleeps 4?

Businesses rent suites for entertaining and giving their employees a central place to congregate.

 

[disneysnob]

Thank you rileyroo's mom.-You definitely seem to know where I'm coming from. Didn't think my post would cause such an uproar. As I said, I was "just venting"....don't need all this hostility. As for "fire exits and their 'widths', what does a family of five have to do with that? Would 'large' people also be banned too, because of the 'width" and the ability to escape???? get real- it's just a post.
Also, it wasn't my intention to come across as 'bragging' about OKW.(although I still don't see where that comment came from-I was just stating my reason for not doing a moderate) Sorry to offend all those DVC owners (members of my own family included-who actually didn't seem to mind at all when I told them). I guess they probably have other important things in their lives to be concerned about, then whose staying at "their" resort the other 51 weeks that they aren't there.....
Once again...Have a Disney Day!!!!

 

[KimberlyC]

I don't think I do.

In your post where you told the OP she was illogical, you said that she'd be spending less than other families, and that she was the one who decided to have a third child and make everything cost more.

Then you explained why you felt she'd be spending less using the facts that everything in life costs more when you add a third kid.

Don't you think that since everything else costs more when you add a kid that it stands to reason that a vacation would, too?

I'm not saying that I agree with ducklite, but I understood her to mean $ spent per person.

 

[Lives4Disney]

Thank you rileyroo's mom.-You definitely seem to know where I'm coming from. Didn't think my post would cause such an uproar. As I said, I was "just venting"....don't need all this hostility. As for "fire exits and their 'widths', what does a family of five have to do with that? Would 'large' people also be banned too, because of the 'width" and the ability to escape???? get real- it's just a post.[/QUOTE

I am with you Disneysnob, but I think the fire code thing has to do more with how many people can safely and quickly get thru the exits in a certain amt of time - Not size of those individuals !!! I think it is kind of a bunch of bunk, anyway, and just an excuse to get people to book more rooms. On our first GF RPC stay, they had over booked during Thanksgiving. They knew we had a family of 5, but upon check in as they presented us with our 5 keys told us they were sticking us in a room with 2 queen beds and would we need a rollaway? !!!! Huh???? The room was extremely small, too. NOT a deluxe concierge room - but more like a bedroom of a suite type room. SMALL. Anyway - that dumb rollaway blocked our exit. It was very tight and crowded. Disney will fudge when it is convenient for them, obviously. Maybe I should be upset that Disney put my family's safety in jeopardy based on all the uproar about firecodes....

I am also a family of 5, but we choose deluxe ALWAYS!! We did deluxe even we were a family of 3. We are blessed and lucky and think deluxe is the way to go on vacation. I personally don't think it is right to sit in judgement of what others choose to do. The OP just wanted her view to be heard - she didn't expect to be chastised!! I have to admit, though, this is a fun type of thread to read!!

Oh, and those hospitality suites that businesses book for parties, etc. That would send the limit over the firecodes for sure.

Lives4Disney

 

[grimley1968]

Businesses rent suites for entertaining and giving their employees a central place to congregate.

As do families.

I wish I did, however, work for a business that was that loose with its money! I consider myself fortunate if I get a HI Express room when I travel on business.

I'm curious to know what the percentages are of people who book the CSR suites. I bet, though, that it's more families than businesses that rent the suites. If anyone has this information, though, please post. I'd be interested to see it. Tax benefits or not, I'd sure have a tough time telling my bosses I rented a suite at CSR when a standard room would have sufficed, and could have congregated other employees at the poolside for free.

 

[ducklite]

Ducklite - I think you don't have children and therefor should tread a little softer on this subject. There are a lot of mama lions out there ready to protect their cub!

Wrong, I have one child. My choice.

And your dollar and cents doesn't make sense to me. You keep saying a smaller family has more disposable income and will spend more at Disney. That is not true at all. What about the 3 person family that is making $35,000/year. Do they really have more disposable income than a family of 6 making $300,000 a year?

You obviously didn't actually take the time to read my posts when I was comparing averages. Of course there are going to be families that skew the cards one way or the other. But comparing average families where the income remains the same but the number of children rises, my math is correct.

Anne

 

[Marthasor]

The fire code thing is no joke! And it's not just Disney! I just went on a trip to D.C. with two friends and we each wanted our own bed. In our price range I found exactly ONE hotel that had double/double rooms large enough to accomodate a rollaway in the D.C. area - all of the other hotels could not put one in the room because of . . . FIRE CODES!!

Hate to break this to some of you, but Disney is a publicly traded business whose sole purpose is to make $$ for its shareholders! and I'm sure they have done a TON of market research on who is visiting the parks (i.e. numbers of people in each party, demographics, etc.), what they are spending per person etc. Until it appears to them that providing more options for familiies of more than four will make them more $$, they aren't going to do too much about it!

You made a choice and you have a choice to spend your vacation $$ elsewhere if WDW's resort options aren't cutting it for you.

 

[ducklite]

Tax benefits or not, I'd sure have a tough time telling my bosses I rented a suite at CSR when a standard room would have sufficed, and could have congregated other employees at the poolside for free.

It's not so much for congregating employees as it is for entertaining prospective customers. CSR is a convention resort, and it;s pretty much commonplace for most major exhibitors to hold private in-suite functions in the evening after official events have ended.

Also it's a perk for the VIP of the company sponsoring the event. I used to work for a company that produced symposia, and the president of the company was always put in one fo the facilities finest suites as part of the overall contract with the facility.

Anne

 

[rileyroosmom]

Sorry ducklite, I don't agree. 5 will always spend more. I still think you are being nasty on this thread.

 

[robinb]

As do families.

Very true! When we go with lots of family we use our DVC points to book everyone rooms. We'll get one 2 BR and then a bunch of studios and then we'll hang out non-charging keys to the 2BR. Our living room becomes the place to hang out.

I was just saying that CSR is big convention hotel. I'm sure many companies rent the suites as hospitality suites and not for sleeping.

 

[Family Fun Mom]

The vast majority of hotel rooms in the US have one or two beds and sleep 2-4 people. Disney is not alone. The difference is that people cannot "sneak" in an extra child or two into Disney resorts and receive all the benifits of staying onsite. People book packages for passes and dining and now even children need a keycard to get EHM wristbands. Disney is defacto enforcing occupancy rules where other hotels do not.

Another difference is that the majority of US hotels will offer a roll away bed for a family of five rather than force you to split up your family and pay for a second room.

Fire code-shmire code. If the fire code is so important why do they allow a fifth person under two in a crib or pack n play? It takes up nearly as much room as a roll away.

Disney does it because it can. $$$$$$$$ is the real reason. So, $$$$$$$$ we'll pay.

It does make one consider staying off site.

 

[pedro2112]

They way I see it is very simple. Disney has many lodging options for families with more than 2 children. They will only add a cheaper option if it makes financial sense. As their resorts have been doing very well lately, it is clear that a change is probably not necessary, unless Disney feels that offering a discount for larger families will make them more money in the long run. Probably not, but perhaps it could change in the future.

I would be shocked if Disney decided to give a discount to a family just becuase it had more than two children if it wasn't going to add to the bottom line. Frankly, it would an idiotic move, that would get someone fired.

 

[Eyeore RuleZ]

Very true! When we go with lots of family we use our DVC points to book everyone rooms. We'll get one 2 BR and then a bunch of studios and then we'll hang out non-charging keys to the 2BR. Our living room becomes the place to hang out.

I was just saying that CSR is big convention hotel. I'm sure many companies rent the suites as hospitality suites and not for sleeping.

Not too hypocritical......your 2-bedroom hangout must be fire code proof......make sure the Disney Police don't catch you. Sneak an extra kid in....have the guest/DVC seller outcast! Big party in RobinB's room (that probably endlessly bothers the adjoining rooms), no problemo since you're a DVC member!!!!!!

 

[ducklite]

Sorry ducklite, I don't agree. 5 will always spend more. I still think you are being nasty on this thread.

Having visited WDW with my sister and BIL and their at the time three kids, and both familes have the same income, we still spent more overall. So I am comparing apples to apples.

I know this for a fact because everything was charged to our DVC unit and I split it all up based on key numbers when we got home and BIL mailed me a check.

I have to believe that this is a typical experience.

I'm not being nasty, just realistic. There's a big difference. It's a shame that some people think anyone who doesn't agree with them is being nasty.

Anne