Just how rude can WDW guests be?

[Joann]

I dont think its rude we do this to like the majority does and to Peter Pirate you said this .....
people refusing to make eye contact, no one offering a temporary seat (as some of you said you would do...Appreciated). Perhaps you do not see this as rude but intentionally causing others discomfort (by omission) so you could be sure to have a table at some point in the future is rude to me.


who is to say these people who are sitting are not in discomfert themselfs? I know when its time for us to eat I am in pain and tired from walking and sitting waiting for my meal is not being rude ... it is me getting off my feet and saving a spot for my family to eat so we don't have to walk around for 20 mins and have our meals turn cold looking for a seat

 

[jann1033]

originally i thought in answer to the question, on a scale of 1-10, they'd be 20
but after reading the topic i have to agree with

Otherwise, where does the rest of your family wait? Is everyone supposed to stand on line? Or just lurk around the restaurant? .

i never thought not to go sit down while one of us gets the food either. maybe the problem is there are simply not enough tables or some don't want to eat outside( i think there are outside tables at the places mentioned in op?)
and i have seen some complain about the whole group waiting inline( in fact i think i have seen signs to that affect in some fast food places) where would all the lurkers stand?

we go off season and usually the problem is finding a table that is taken, not empty, except maybe at 12:00 sharp, so maybe i would be more upset if it happened to me.

if it were a problem though i don't see any harm in letting someone sit there till hubby brought the grub but they'd probably be really rude and not let him sit when he came back!

 

[disneyfan333]

Well, for once bicker and I seem to be on the same side of this. Wow!

When the lines are short there is no need to worry about this sort of thing, a five minute wait and a five minute 'table save'...No big deal, but these lines were long and as I said at least HALF of the tables WERE NOT BEING USED as intended as people were waiting in a 20 minute food line! ... This is OK with you people? My daughter and I walk past table after table of people refusing to make eye contact, no one offering a temporary seat (as some of you said you would do...Appreciated). Perhaps you do not see this as rude but intentionally causing others discomfort (by omission) so you could be sure to have a table at some point in the future is rude to me.

While we were eating we saw an elderly (very slow moving) couple looking for a table with no luck, just as we had experienced. We had three chairs at our table and there were only two of us so we invited them to join us (which they graciously accepted). We gave them two chairs and my daughter finished her meal sitting on my knee. It wasn't difficult to be nice to these folks at all.

Call it what you want but I call this behavior rude...Commonplace and perhaps acceptable, but rude nonetheless.

ok it doesnt matter if one table half the tables or even all the tables had people that were reserving them because the fact of the matter is that they were there first and u cant just tell them to move because well...tere not!! lol so u can say what u want do what u wish but if you see a family of 15 (mine ) i wouldnt ask them to move so u could sit down.....or else somones gonna get hurt.

P.S. if people are just sitten at a table talking thats not wrong either the people are just relaxing. jeez!!!

 

[BlindTyldak]

We always do this. My husband is in an ECV and having him wait in line takes up so much space it's not fair to the other patrons, nor is it feasable for him to try to weave in and out of other people. He secures us an edge table with my daughter while I stand in line.

However, if you'd rather we take up the whole line and then run over your feet and make you move your chairs repeatedly while we try to find a seat after getting our meal, we'd be glad to accomodate you next time!

 

[lillygator]

Sorry - OP would you rather have large families with small children all crammed in those small CS lines with you?


I must be Queen, no Princess(not old enough to be Queen) of the Rude then...I am not going to subject my two children 3, 1 to waiting in a walk up line along with a double stroller, diaper bag and purse....I have no problem holding a table....

 

[Poohbear123]

I also don't see a problem with holding a table while someone else in the party is in line for food. It doesn't bother me to see someone else doing it and I don't feel guilty if someone in our party does it either.

Me either! I was with a group of 4 recently, and we had BIG problems finding a table at Pinocchio Village House of all places. We encountered a group of 5 that was leaving, and THEY asked if we wanted thier table, if not we would have been eating off the garbage cans outside. We than Passed the table to another group.

 

[disneyjunkie]

P.S. if people are just sitten at a table talking thats not wrong either the people are just relaxing. jeez!!!

Now this is wrong.

To sit at table just to relax while others need a table to eat is rude.

Peter Pirate, did you ask anyone if you could share a table with them?

I'm sure most small groups would have made room for you and your daughter.

 

[Hannathy]

The trouble with this is table capacity is figured into wait in line time. If everyone would wait in line then sit by the time they were done the next group of people that were in line would be ready to sit down.

 

[dcgrumpy]

So what should families do? Should everyone get in line or should one person egt the food while the rest of the group mill about the restaurant?

 

[Lives4Disney]

Oh boy!! It seems there are so many different little gripes about how people behave at Disney World every time I turn around I will be wondering if I am offending somebody - and I AM a POLITE person! It's too much. First there are those dumb bus threads about people taking seats that shouldn't, where people should cram their double strollers and how dare they let their kids have seats, it goes on and on ...... Now this table thing!!! Too funny.

I think people need to lighten up. Just because it didn't work out for you, OP, and you had to wait for a table you think others are rude for saving tables - have you ever tried getting a meal in an airport??!!! People just SIT AND READ at those food court tables! They aren't even waiting for food!

I have a family of 5 and if every family crammed themselves into those packed lines to wait until they got their order it would be total chaos. We always have my husband and son go get the food and my girls and I save a table. I figured we were doing others a favor by getting out of the way! My kids are little kids that are tired and hot and what is wrong with sitting down for a couple minutes and getting out of the crowd while my husband gets the food order. Hello?


Just my two cents -

Lives4Disney

 

[snowwite]

ITA

I don't think it's rude at all.

My son grabs a table while I order our food.

Since our family is small (just the two of us) we don't mind sharing a table with others.

I agree. I dont see this as rude.In a place as busy as Disney I think this is sensible and necessary.

 

[Peter Pirate]

lillygator, I clearly stated in the OP that there are always exceptions, when I said it doesn't bother me to see a parent with (wee ones) a baby and a toddler for example waiting for the rest of their party. Nor would I be offended by handicapped or Senior Citizens. There are always exceptions.

disneyfan333 it certainly DOES matter how many table are being held when you are considering whose being rude and who isn't ... otherwise I guess I'm just being silly when I'm watching a parade and I'm in front of a couple of children and I allow thim in front of me knowing I can still see over them (I'm 6'3"). I was there first so I guess technically I have the right to stand there, enjoy the parade and block their view. I could never do that though.

Hannathy, thanks for totally UNDERSTANDING the way the system is set up.

disneyjunkie, no I didn't ask anyone if we could share although I certainly would have had I actually been able to make eye contact with someone first. But I'm certainly not going to barge in on someones table. Even if I think they're being rude it doesn't give me the right to be rude in return.

The question is, if you're "saving" a table and you know the lines are out the door and you see a dozen groups of people frantically looking for a place to eat their meal does it make no sense to anyone that you, as the "saving party" should offer a couple of seats even if under the "until my party" arrives scenerio? Geez.

I know Disney is busy, I know the cities are busy and I know common courtesy and good manners are flying ou of the window in this country. I may be a dinosaur in this department but I will continue to use common sense and common courtesy when dealing with fellow human beings even if the majority do not.

 

[vellamint]

Well our family is definitely guilty of these....as you can see by my picture we have four kids and if we wait until we have our food to find a table we will become the subject of quite a few other threads on these boards.

The "dont yell at your kids in the world thread"
The "dont lose your temper in the world thread"
The "Oh my those kids were walking all around where were their parents thread"
The "I cant believe this family spilled their drinks on my family thread"

etc
etc

It is very difficult to find a table for six sometimes....

 

[WantToGoNow]

We always secure a table while one person gets the food. It's much easier and makes more sense for one adult to wait at a table with the two small children than the entire family standing in line.

 

[johnvree]

The trouble with this is table capacity is figured into wait in line time. If everyone would wait in line then sit by the time they were done the next group of people that were in line would be ready to sit down.

Is this true? That means that the when all of the tables are full, the estimated length of time on line equals the length of time a family typically takes to eat.

This still wouldn't solve the problem of where the rest of your family stands while you wait in line.

 

[TiggerandBelleFanMom]

So are all table service restaurant patrons rude because they sit on their tushes, with NO food in front of them, waiting for the waiter to bring it? Is it always illegimate to put your tush on the seat before the food enters your mouth?

I assume most of you would answer "No!"

Those of you who are opposed to finding a table first would probably add "But that's the system in table service restaurants!" Granted, but some families like to replicate that kind of restaurant experience even at counter service. One or two family members are the servers for the rest of the group. The others attend to the kiddos or just...heaven forbid...relax!

If you take the "Table saving is rude" logic far enough, then people who eat slowly and chat and look at park maps to plan what to do next are also 'rude,' as they should be shovelling down that food and letting the next people sit.

Why blame other patrons instead of Disney for not building adequate seating?

Our family is personally planning to eat only at table service establishments and room service on our upcoming trip because we like to relax at mealtime. (We therefore are not doing the dining plan.) That reasonable expectation should be able to be met for all customers, regardless of budget.

TiggerandBelleFanMom (Who had the WORST heartburn last night, probably in part from eating too fast. Don't do it, I tell ya!)

 

[BernardandMissBianca]

I have to say that we are a family that will grab a table while my husband gets the food. I have 3 kids 2 of which are 5 and under and there is no way to keep them orderly while waiting in line for food. If there is space at our table then we offer it up to others.
My complaint is people that mill around trying what to decide to do after their meal. We ran into this on our most recent trip at MGM and Animal Kingdom.
At MGM I was scoping out a table along with about 6 other families and there was one family that finished their food and then proceeded to argue for 45 minutes about where they were going from there. Granted I don't want to seem like the type to stalk people for their table but they obviously knew people were waiting for them to move. I stood there for about 15 minutes thinking they were getting ready to leave, as they were clearing the table, but they would get up one at a time to throw one or two things away and come back. Finally a guy and his son offered us their table since they were leaving soon. They first family was still there when we left 30 minutes later.

AK was the same deal at Pizzafari. The 4 adults at one long table and 4 kids at another long table. They could have squeezed into one table. After they finished eating everyone started passing the digital cameras around to look at the photos already taken. In the mean time DH had already gotten the food and he and our DS9 were carrying 3 trays. We finally got a table but that family was still there after we had finished and we were leaving.

 

[Topper]

The only rudeness I've observed is the OP comparing people to pigs.

YMMV

 

[maggs]

The only rudeness I've observed is the OP comparing people to pigs.

YMMV

I thought that was extremely rude too. When we enter a counter service restaurant in the August heat, I too send my hot and exhausted kids to find seats. I have no problem with that. Why would I stand with them at my side when what they want to do is sit down. I prefer that to them standing saying 'Mom, Im tired' or 'I want to sit down'. I dont say 'You cant sit down in those empty seats!' What would the reasoning be behind that? We all do it and I for one will be allowing then to do the same this August.

Maggs

 

[Talking Hands]

My husband usually gets the food and I grab a table. There are very few that are easy to sit at in a power wheelchair so I grab one that is. I will gladly share with others, just ask.
What bugs me is when I am alone and heading for a table and some able-bodied family will walk up behind me and then walk around and grab the table while I am trying to manuever in place.