Just back Had a Wonderful time..but.......

We had two incidents last time we went to Disney World, and that was back in 2005. My daughter was 6 at the time and she is a very helpful, considerate child. We were in one of the shops at MGM and a little girl in a stroller dropped her toy right in front of my daughter. MY daughter bends down to pick up the toy and had it back to the child and this child's mother rips the toy out of my daughters had. I think that my daughter was trying to take the toy, when she realized her mistake she never even apologized or thanked my daughter for helping. Then, also at MGM at the Beauty and the beast show, we were sitting in our seats when an older couple pushed past us to sit in the same row. The lady just about sat on my daughters lap and she wasn't the last one of our group before the empty seats. I said to the lady "uh, you are trying to sit on my daughter" she just walked past without even saying sorry.

I try to teach my daughter to be a good, polite, helpful person, but sometimes it is hard when others show her just the opposite.
 
There were a couple of times we really noticed it.
Once was at the Haunted Mansion. The man in the car in front of us kept taking pictures with a flash. I said "please don't - the flash is scaring my son" (and there was a sign saying not to).
So he proceeded the entire ride - whenever there was a chance he could see us - mirrors etc, to use his flash in our faces.
I was NOT impressed. Especially since I was really polite about asking.

The other thing was at the Indiana Jones show at DHS. There was a girl about 10ish who kept putting her feet on the seat and kicking me. It was driving me nuts. I said "please don't" and her mom honestly said in a loud voice "kick the little boy instead" pointing to my 4 year old. I think everyone was hot and tired and really sick of waiting, but really.
The kid proceeded to kick my seat the whole show. I just let it go.

My son is 4 and far from an angel, but if he annoys someone (which happens) I apologize and do something to distract him or move him.
 
There were a couple of times we really noticed it.
Once was at the Haunted Mansion. The man in the car in front of us kept taking pictures with a flash. I said "please don't - the flash is scaring my son" (and there was a sign saying not to).
So he proceeded the entire ride - whenever there was a chance he could see us - mirrors etc, to use his flash in our faces.
I was NOT impressed. Especially since I was really polite about asking.

The other thing was at the Indiana Jones show at DHS. There was a girl about 10ish who kept putting her feet on the seat and kicking me. It was driving me nuts. I said "please don't" and her mom honestly said in a loud voice "kick the little boy instead" pointing to my 4 year old. I think everyone was hot and tired and really sick of waiting, but really.
The kid proceeded to kick my seat the whole show. I just let it go.

My son is 4 and far from an angel, but if he annoys someone (which happens) I apologize and do something to distract him or move him.

I would have brought the camera guy to the attention of the CM at the ride exit. Something could have been done about that. Guests can be kicked out of the park for those actions. It could have harmed someone badly - even sent an epileptic into siezures with the light/dark change. Disney could technically be sued by someone for letting that happen. I'd want to know why the ride wasn't halted for the violation - they nortmally do that for bad behaviors, as there are infrared cameras throughout all of the dark rides. At least the attraction lead could have done something to make your day better.

I would have also alerted the Indy CM nearest to your seats about the kicking issue and what the parent said. As I get older, I don't put up with that crap, either. The money I pay for Disney has the same value as what they pay. Unlike those folks I choose not to abuse my privilages. Those who do abuse should put up with the penalties.
 
Yes, we've seen our fair share of rudeness at WDW. I try to keep a positive attitude and I definitely make sure my dd age 6 behaves and is polite.

My main complaint is the smells. How can some of these people even stand to be in the same room with themselves? On several of the bus rides I literally gagged all the way back to the resort! Soap, water, deoderant . . it's not a hard concept to grasp. And is a definite must in the Florida heat!

-B
 

We were there in Sept and it was horrible.... We have a family inside joke where we start with "I am batting 100". This is code for a rude/terrible situation happening around us. It gives us the option as a family to leave or adjust what we are doing without hurting anyone feelings... To say we were batting over 10,000,000 before we left is an understatement.QUOTE]

Along those lines, I had a friend come down in August (I live in Orlando) at the peak of the heat and crowds. There were a lot of overheated miserable people, but I'm at the parks so often that I've just come to expect it that time of year. Whenever something went wrong, we'd look at eachother and say "YEAR OF A MILLION DREAMS!!!" and just have to laugh. We encountered a large number of rude people - my favorite was one woman with her family at Hollywood Studios. She was standing with her family (DH, DS4ish and DD5ish) in the row next to us, waiting for the tram. there were maybe 4-5 other people in our "section," and as the tram stopped, we started to get on and this woman stepped directly infront of my friend into our row and said "No! THAT's your row" and pointed to the one behind us. We got on, and my friend, flabberghasted, looked at me and said "Well THANK GOD we're in the correct row! I don't know WHAT would have happened if we were in the WRONG one!!!" I felt bad for this woman's children - she argued with DH the whole ride and told the kids to shut up everytime they tried to say something.
 
We just got back on the 18th and noticed the very same thing. My 13 yr old ds even pointed out that when he accidentally bumped into someone and said he was sorry, they gave him a dirty look. I just kept telling my kids that we just keep being polite no matter what others do. We had 2 particularly rotten things happen: we stayed at ASSP and one day we went to the food court. We found a spot to sit and a little bit later we heard this girl yelling at her mom at the table next to us, then she comes over to where my dh was sitting and starts going under the table giving us dirty looks. Apparently she had put her bag on the floor to mark her spot. We had no idea as we don't usually check under the table. She goes off in a huff and then appears again saying very loudly"We WERE going to sit there" and pointing at us. So I looked up at her and she starts yelling at me to "Don't give me no look" I said to her excuse me but we didn't see your stuff or we would not have sat here. Her mom just sat there looking totally embarassed but not saying a word. The girl could not have been more than 15. The other thing that happened was at MNSSHP, we got a seat behind a guy with a baby and a stroller. He was standing next to the baby so we just sat on the ground behind them. About 5 minutes before the parade started, 4 more people in their family show up and stood in front of us. They saw my little boy sitting behind them and continued to stand in front of us the entire time. The dad at one point got up because he got mad at my dh for making comments about people standing for the whole thing.Everyone else was sitting, they were the only ones standing. We encountered lots of stuff like that. It makes it hard for us to continue teaching our boys to be polite when there is just so much rudeness around.

has anyone noticed an sharp increase in rudeness and lack of common courtesy???

We had a fabulous time. The weather was great, our room at the beach club villas was spectacular. We had some great character dining experiences and other dining experiences. Crowd levels were managable, very friendly cast members...Bus schedule left a little to be desired but whatever..

I was just stunned by the level of rudeness amongst the other guests. Pushiness in lines, 1 person waiting in line and then when they get to the front yelling to their 10 other family members to join them... Kids pushing you aside to get at the sink in the bathrooms for goodness sake (I'm glad they are washing their hands but my goodness)... My one year old had her arm out of the stroller pointing at something..one guy was in such a hurry to get by us..he almost broke her arm. At the halloween parade, we found a nice spot about 15 mins prior to the start. We were standing right behind a family with a little boy sitting on the curb. Who obviously staked out the spot earlier than us. Right as the parade started..a mother with a 2 or 3 year old pushed passed us to plop her child right on the curb next to the little boy. and proceed to stand squished up against me..with this drippy ice cream dripping all over the little boy. She said to the family in front..Oh you don't mind do you? Are you kidding me?? They had to delay the triceritop ride in Dinoland because a kid was acting up in line..even went down to where the controller runs the ride... Parent didn't even pretend to try to stop him.

Sorry..I just had to check if anyone else noticed an increase in this type of stuff.

It didn't ruin my vacation..I just really felt like it was so much more than in previous years.
 
Apparently she had put her bag on the floor to mark her spot. We had no idea as we don't usually check under the table. She goes off in a huff and then appears again saying very loudly"We WERE going to sit there" and pointing at us. So I looked up at her and she starts yelling at me to "Don't give me no look" I said to her excuse me but we didn't see your stuff or we would not have sat here. Her mom just sat there looking totally embarassed but not saying a word. The girl could not have been more than 15.

We were there at the same time..we came back on the 18th as well.

So thats similar to my encounter in the bathroom with the 12/13 year old...I usually have to pick my DD up to wash her hands because she too small to reach. So I picked her up and went to turn on a sink..This kid comes bombing out of the bathroom and almost hip checks me to get at the sink I was turning on. I say "oh excuse me we were just going to wash our hands". She looks at me and says all exasperated "Well I have to wash my hands too!!!" So I said.."Yes and thats why we take turns."

I really couldn't believe a 12 year old was talking to an adult like that? I would have never even considered that when I was that age.
 
That's what I mean..I just sat there with my mouth open that this girl would have the nerve to speak to an adult like that and her mom just sitting there saying nothing. I guess all we can do is continue to teach our children manners and to do the right thing.

We were there at the same time..we came back on the 18th as well.

So thats similar to my encounter in the bathroom with the 12/13 year old...I usually have to pick my DD up to wash her hands because she too small to reach. So I picked her up and went to turn on a sink..This kid comes bombing out of the bathroom and almost hip checks me to get at the sink I was turning on. I say "oh excuse me we were just going to wash our hands". She looks at me and says all exasperated "Well I have to wash my hands too!!!" So I said.."Yes and thats why we take turns."

I really couldn't believe a 12 year old was talking to an adult like that? I would have never even considered that when I was that age.
 
I feel for the children of rude parents because it just gets passed down and the children follow.

My son will not act that way and he will know it's not acceptable at all. The older i get the more verbal I have become about rudeness. I am always nice as long as possible but I dont want someone treating me like crap.

This happened to me not too long at Fazolis's. The lady was so rude when she took our order, almost as if we were an inconvience to her. Um it's her job!!! Well I held my cool until she got crappy with my 8 year old neice. She didn't like me much after that. Luckily this happened after we got our food. LOL
 
I agree with the rudeness. My boys stared wide-eyed and amazed at all the parents screaming at their kids, the pushing, shoving, line cutting, and dirty looks. Again, I know that we all want our vacation to be perfect. But, if people would look around and see how many other people want a perfect vacation, maybe everyone could just lighten up a bit and enjoy the spirit of Disney. We go because we love the feeling we get when we walk into the parks, resorts, anywhere on property. We feel special. However, I am not feeling special when I am pushed out of your way, mowed down by your stroller (I have one, too, and if I accidentally bump you, I apologize), yelled at for not moving fast enough, squeezed into my family member to make room when you arrive 5 minutes before a parade, etc. We tend to avoid certain things now, which kind of isn't fair to my family. It's like we are letting the bullies win. But, I am not going to duke it out with another mom on my vacation. So, yeah, I will back down and let "you" win!

I said it on another thread, but they need a video camera that catches guests at those unpleasant moments and sends a copy to them...or maybe broadcasts it to everyone. You cannot imagine how many times I have had my hair yanked from the child behind me. Yes, I know I have long hair and that is what kids do. But, just say "I'm sorry." It is close and personal and these things happen. Don't give me a dirty look when I turn around to look at you and your child with a handful of my hair!!

Oh, well. We keep going back, but have modified our plans so that we avoid certain situations!

:)
 


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