Just a thought

[thelobstershanty]

Thelobstershanty- In Doc's post, I am seeing that second quote being DaddyBradys. Is your computer not showing that? Weird.

Interesting conversation. I enjoy reading the dialogue.

Doc went back and changed his post. Why it does not show that the post was edited, I have no idea. That is weird.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Doc went back and changed his post. Why it does not show that the post was edited, I have no idea. That is weird.

Not at all weird. He is a webmaster.

 

[thelobstershanty]

Not at all weird. He is a webmaster.

You're kidding me!!

 

[Dean]

Dean, we just made reservations at VWL for 10 nights over NYE. We could not get all the nights on points so are paying cash for 3 nights. I can not say our cash nights are at a fraction of the price of paying points, though. In fact, it is quite the opposite.
I am not one with the attitude "you can't stay at my resort without paying the same fees". Again a misinterpretation of something that was never stated.

Sorry if I misunderstood, any misinterpretation was purely unintentional. This post is what I was referring to when you were responding to a post about making the home resort priority 1 month (11/10).

If they do this, they would have to make all annual dues the same for all onsite WDW DVC resorts. Without doing this, I think a major uproar would happen. And in all fairness, why should members pay higher annual dues, if it provides no additional home booking advantage?

and this one

I completely understand how the annual dues are allocated. But still feel that a major uproar would occur, if the described scenario were to happen. I have read many comments, on many Disney related boards--where members have expressed concern over the annual dues issue; for things a lot less important than eliminating booking at non DVC home resorts.

You were stating a position from what I read, you didn't necessarily say it was your position. I was also responding to the position which I interpreted as if you want to use my resort, you should really pay the fees associated, in this case a variation. A position we've seen from time to time and one I understand up to a point. Again, I apologize if I misunderstood. You're certainly welcome to state it in a different way so I may truly understand

 

[thelobstershanty]

Dean,
We definitely have our wires crossed. I never intended to imply that I was in favor of changing the booking window to 11/10. Matter of fact, I would be very upset if this change did occur. If any changes to the booking window did happen, we would prefer it to swing the other way and make the booking window longer for one's home resort and shorter for those trading in.

I did answer the part of the OP that referred to the possibility of DVC eliminating staying at non home resorts. I did say that this would not bother us and we would be fine with staying solely in our home resort. We like all WDW resorts but our favorite is our DVC home resort. Which is precisely why we bought there and have continued to add on contracts there.

I also said that I think if the home resort booking advantage was completely eliminated; there would be quite a bit of dissatifaction from members. I also said that if that were to happen, I think many members would bulk at paying higher dues for certain resorts with no home resort booking advantage.
I understand that the dues are allocated by the cost of running each resort separately. But if something as unlikely as DVC taking away all home resort booking advantage were to happen, I bet anything DVC could work out evening out the annual dues, so that all resorts paid the same amount based on the number of points owned. It does not cost the same to run every moderate or value resort, yet the price for the rooms are the same for each resort depending on their category. For example the rack rate for a room at POFQ is the same as the rack rate for a room at CBR. Even though CBR is a much larger resort and doubtlessly cost more to run.
These are just my feelings and opinions. I am not saying anyone has to agree with them, but it is how I feel.

Sorry for any confusion on my part. I thought I was making myself quite clear, but I guess not.

 

[Dean]

Dean,
We definitely have our wires crossed. I never intended to imply that I was in favor of changing the booking window to 11/10. Matter of fact, I would be very upset if this change did occur. If any changes to the booking window did happen, we would prefer it to swing the other way and make the booking window longer for one's home resort and shorter for those trading in.

I did answer the part of the OP that referred to the possibility of DVC eliminating staying at non home resorts. I did say that this would not bother us and we would be fine with staying solely in our home resort. We like all WDW resorts but our favorite is our DVC home resort. Which is precisely why we bought there and have continued to add on contracts there.

I also said that I think if the home resort booking advantage was completely eliminated; there would be quite a bit of dissatifaction from members. I also said that if that were to happen, I think many members would bulk at paying higher dues for certain resorts with no home resort booking advantage.
I understand that the dues are allocated by the cost of running each resort separately. But if something as unlikely as DVC taking away all home resort booking advantage were to happen, I bet anything DVC could work out evening out the annual dues, so that all resorts paid the same amount based on the number of points owned. It does not cost the same to run every moderate or value resort, yet the price for the rooms are the same for each resort depending on their category. For example the rack rate for a room at POFQ is the same as the rack rate for a room at CBR. Even though CBR is a much larger resort and doubtlessly cost more to run.
These are just my feelings and opinions. I am not saying anyone has to agree with them, but it is how I feel.

Sorry for any confusion on my part. I thought I was making myself quite clear, but I guess not.

Fair enough, we still disagree slightly on some minor points but that's OK. It's always hard to cover every angle with the written word, esp in a format such as a BBS. We've all been misunderstood at one time or another. Happy posting.

 

[dianeschlicht]

LOL, glad you two got that squared away! Great discussions.

 

[cobbler]

Honestly I don't think it would bother me that much if I could only book at my home resort.

Honestly we would stay there all the time right now except for the fact that I want to try every Disney owned resort on property. It's just a quirk I have and I want to be able to say "Yep, I've stayed there!"

So after I try the other resorts I will gladly book at SSR all the time with no problems, because that is "home".

Now if a Poly DVC came online . . . . . . .

 

[LisaS]

Honestly we would stay there all the time right now except for the fact that I want to try every Disney owned resort on property... after I try the other resorts I will gladly book at SSR all the time with no problems, because that is "home".

Be careful, cobbler!! After a lot of research we decided to buy points at BWV. Like you, we plan to try all of the resorts so our first stay we tried VWL and OKW and fell in love with both resorts. We ended up adding on at VWL so we could have the 11-month booking advantage there as well. If it becomes difficult to get into OKW at 7 months, we'll have to add on there, too!

 

[bpmorley]

Honestly I don't think it would bother me that much if I could only book at my home resort.

Honestly we would stay there all the time right now except for the fact that I want to try every Disney owned resort on property. It's just a quirk I have and I want to be able to say "Yep, I've stayed there!"

So after I try the other resorts I will gladly book at SSR all the time with no problems, because that is "home".

Now if a Poly DVC came online . . . . . . .

For us, not sure about every resort. We did ASmov, so we don't see the need to do ASmu or ASsp. But maybe all the Mod's and up. And we still have to do BWV. But we like SSR and wouldn't mind having to stay there every time if we had to.

 

[Simba's Mom]

I'm wondering how those of us with multiple home resorts would be handled. What I mean is, we have 100 points at BCV. One time, I needed 128 points for the stay (I think it was about 9-10 nights). So I was able to book 7 nights at 11 months, then at 7 months out I booked the other 2-3 nights (I may have had to waitlist, don't remember) with points from a different home resort. Oh, yeah-borrowing may make it possible? So confusing!

 

[Dean]

I'm wondering how those of us with multiple home resorts would be handled. What I mean is, we have 100 points at BCV. One time, I needed 128 points for the stay (I think it was about 9-10 nights). So I was able to book 7 nights at 11 months, then at 7 months out I booked the other 2-3 nights (I may have had to waitlist, don't remember) with points from a different home resort. Oh, yeah-borrowing may make it possible? So confusing!

If the home resort priority were changed, you'd have to adjust to the new rules. If it were eliminated (small chance if any), you'd have to use them independently.

 

[cobbler]

Be careful, cobbler!! After a lot of research we decided to buy points at BWV. Like you, we plan to try all of the resorts so our first stay we tried VWL and OKW and fell in love with both resorts. We ended up adding on at VWL so we could have the 11-month booking advantage there as well. If it becomes difficult to get into OKW at 7 months, we'll have to add on there, too!

Well hopefully I won't have this problem And quite honestly unless I have the most super, terriffic stay on the whole planet and get the feeling where I HAVE to stay there I am thinking it won't happen

Besides my crayon change jar is waiting for Poly DVC, so I can't afford another resort

 

[cobbler]

For us, not sure about every resort. We did ASmov, so we don't see the need to do ASmu or ASsp. But maybe all the Mod's and up. And we still have to do BWV. But we like SSR and wouldn't mind having to stay there every time if we had to.

Yeah, this is us EXACTLY. We did Pop and Sports and I am thinking good enough for the value dept

But I still may have that nagging thing that I haven't stayed at the other 2 so I may have to add them in for the one night before our DVC stay. That way I can cross them off the list without torturing myself

 

[bpmorley]

Yeah, this is us EXACTLY. We did Pop and Sports and I am thinking good enough for the value dept

But I still may have that nagging thing that I haven't stayed at the other 2 so I may have to add them in for the one night before our DVC stay. That way I can cross them off the list without torturing myself

That's not a bad idea. But I think for the deluxe's I'd like to make it at least 2 nights. Hopefully there will be an AP discount at them. Heck we still have to do BWV. Would that count for BW too?

 

[cobbler]

Well I count BW and BWV as one, so when I stay at BWV the whole BW resort gets crossed off my list. Same with BCV and VWL.

For the deluxes that are non-DVC I hope to make them a full trip. Like this year we are staying 5 nights in the Contemporary. Next year it will be 6 nights at the Grand Flordian and so on.

 

[bobbiwoz]

With all the people on the boards asking about getting GV's at OKW when they do not own there and folks wanting to book the other resorts when they own at SSR, do you think the time is coming when DVC will do away with booking outside your home resort? ...

I look at the same scenerio and think that DVC will lessen the home resort priority time in order to satisfy the wants of the majority of members, if indeed it's a majority of members who want to book outside of their home resort. It is not what I want DVC to do, I/we have been happy with the status quo. I hope they don't bring up the drawbridge that allows members to stay at different resorts, but I could live with it. I say that, but it would mean a huge change in the way I've planned vacations. This 4 generation trip was suggested to us at 8 months out, and we certainly didn't have enough VWL points to use or that were even available to us with borrowing. So, this trip wouldn't be possible without the infusion of BWV or VB points which were used at 7 months.

Bobbi

 

[bpmorley]

Well I count BW and BWV as one, so when I stay at BWV the whole BW resort gets crossed off my list. Same with BCV and VWL.

For the deluxes that are non-DVC I hope to make them a full trip. Like this year we are staying 5 nights in the Contemporary. Next year it will be 6 nights at the Grand Flordian and so on.

Unfortunately I don't think we could afford to stay more than a night or two at these places. And I won't use points, don't think it's worth it.

 

[Simba's Mom]

I look at the same scenerio and think that DVC will lessen the home resort priority time in order to satisfy the wants of the majority of members, if indeed it's a majority of members who want to book outside of their home resort. It is not what I want DVC to do, I/we have been happy with the status quo. I hope they don't bring up the drawbridge that allows members to stay at different resorts, but I could live with it. I say that, but it would mean a huge change in the way I've planned vacations. This 4 generation trip was suggested to us at 8 months out, and we certainly didn't have enough VWL points to use or that were even available to us with borrowing. So, this trip wouldn't be possible without the infusion of BWV or VB points which were used at 7 months.

Bobbi

Boy, bobbiwoz, you got my attention! You think DVC might lessen the home resort priority time? That does seem like a possibility to me, too. But like you, I don't want them to do that!

 

[thelobstershanty]

Maybe I am looking at this through Mickey colored glasses, but I do not think they will lessen the home booking window--there would be a lot of unhappy members if this were to happen.--us included. I think the booking windows will stay the same, and that is fine; or it will be changed to give a longer home booking window.
I can not see how making the booking window 11/10 would help in any way. In fact, I think it would have the opposite effect. I think it would result in a lot of calls to MS/DVC from upset members and possibly a rush of members selling their memberships. I can't say for sure because it has not happened and hope it never will; but if the booking window was decreased to 11/10, I think we would seriously consider selling our DVC contracts.