Jon and Kate Plus 8. Official Thread!!

[sha_lyn]

I couldn't she made Cara and Mady wear shoes that didn't fit just because they matched their outfits. I'm sure they had other shoes that would have fit, even if they weren't 'perfect'. Kate is HUGE on the appearances.

I also didn't like how Hannah got spoonfed and coddled to, so she could get her cupcake, but the boys didn't appear to get the same opportunity.

Wasn't Jon trying to feed at least one of the boys?

 

[madge]

A. - I've seen those kids in clothes from the Gap; so they don't ONLY wear Gymboree clothes.

I'm sure they don't pay for those, either.

 

[missypie]

I would have let the kids have a cupcake there and a cupcake at home. Kate is SO obsessed with stains...I think part of it is that she always wants the clothes to match....it one girl ruins her dress and the others don't, I bet none of them would be worn again. Remember when they went to the Crayola place and the older girls were begging to play with markers?!

I thought it was so funny when Jon made the "three seasons" comment. Kate went way over the top with that...she should have laughed about it. I think that shows some inner guilt about selling their story.

 

[MM27]

I was thinking last night, as I was watching the show, Kate would have a fit if her kids were in my class.

Do these kids (the older ones at least) not get dirty at school? Forbidding them to use markers while she is around is one thing, but in my class we use markers, we paint and in science the kids always get a little dirty. We even made gingerbread houses with graham crackers and icing at Christmas and yes it was all over, but the kids had a ball and guess what? It all washes off. Simple solution is I have the kids bring in an old t-shirt so they don't get their uniforms dirty, but even going outside for recess creates stains.

On one of the episodes that was on last night after the new one the kids were at Jodi and Kevin's house and it was raining. They were standing by the patio door and Jodi said something about not going outside. One of the little girls said something like, "then mommy would say 'what's on their shoes'" I also noticed that Kate made a comment about the kids not wanting to go to Jodi's again but she had to remind them that they had their fun day so they needed to go.

On a good note, I must say the little ones were very well mannered at the bakery. One of the ladies told Hannah how cute she looked and she very politely said, "Thank You" Kate could've learned something from her kids at the bakery about how to be thankful when people are being kind to you. I'm not usually one to bash and pick apart Kate, but I was very disappointed in her behavior last night.

 

[Camster0307]

A. Gap clothes are just as expensive as Gymboree clothes. My only comment on this was that they are pretty pricey clothes to wear all the time - especially if there are times when jon and kate discuss their financial struggles (but as others have commented - apparently they aren't paying for a lot of thier clothes, or other things for that matter.

B. I had no problem with the carnival party and I have no problem with something quiet at home. My "issue" was that no one sang happy birthday, blew out candles, opened a gift, etc. But again it seems this was a staged bday party not the actual one.

C. OCD is definitely a serious disorder. We all have it to an extent I'm sure. I'm not bashing her for having it at all, but it is hard to imagine exactly what is going on in her head when most of us simply see a mess/stain that can be easily cleaned up and to her it is 50x worse.

D. It's easier to "bash" Kate because she always seems to be the one freaking out, yelling, complaining, etc. even if Jon is in 100% agreement with her some of the time. They are a unit, but she stands out more in her behaviors, hence gets the brunt of the bashing. Unfortunately for her.

I'm sorry if you took my post as a bash at yours; I certainly didn't mean it that way. I was just responding to a lot of things I've read here today.

I agree - both Gap and Gymboree are pricey; but like another PP stated, I'm sure the family is getting alot for free. It's all part of being reality TV stars - just like I'm sure their vacations and day trips are all paid for.

But the kids were dressed up for church; then Kate didn't bring extra clothes because she thought Jon would have a fit having to change them all. Whatever. I'm sure the kids could have been wearing t-shirts and gym shorts and Kate still would not want them getting messy! It's the way she is; doesn't surprise or shock me anymore; and I'm not going to judge because I never had to deal with laundry for 8 kids.

Again, you're right - this was NOT their actual birthday or their actual party. That had been done earlier and in private. This was obvious an outing staged for the show - just another day. So why bend the rules regarding the "don't finish dinner; don't get dessert."

As for the OCD - of course none of us can imagine the fuss being made over stains on kids' clothes; most of us don't have the OCD to the extent Kate may have it. So we don't understand her freak outs; therefore I just question why we need to criticize it. But, then again, this is a discussion board; we're here to agree or disagree about things. I have no idea why I feel the need to defend this person I don't even know!

Like I said, I enjoy watching the show. I think the whole family is a hoot!

 

[Momvic5]

I
On a good note, I must say the little ones were very well mannered at the bakery. One of the ladies told Hannah how cute she looked and she very politely said, "Thank You" Kate could've learned something from her kids at the bakery about how to be thankful when people are being kind to you. I'm not usually one to bash and pick apart Kate, but I was very disappointed in her behavior last night.

My thoughts exactly! I am beginning to get the feeling that Jon and Kate are becoming more self-absorbed and developing an attitude of entitlement.

 

[madge]

My thoughts exactly! I am beginning to get the feeling that Jon and Kate are becoming more self-absorbed and developing an attitude of entitlement.

as soon as Kate called the twins stupid & wouldn't stop to see if there was something wrong with the shoes, I switched back to the Bachelorette. Awful, awful, awful. It's more important how those kids look than if there's something wrong? please.

 

[Momvic5]

as soon as Kate called the twins stupid & wouldn't stop to see if there was something wrong with the shoes, I switched back to the Bachelorette. Awful, awful, awful. It's more important how those kids look than if there's something wrong? please.

I have recently found myself turning the channel in mid show as well. I think the children are precious, but all the adult drama is just becoming too much. There is definitely a change in the feel of the show.

 

[sha_lyn]

She called the twins stupid?

 

[Nancy]

My favorite kid moment last night was when they were putting the icing on his cupcake, and Joel goes "Oh My!" He said it so cute![/quote]

That was so cute and his eyes got huge

Kate was way out of line with the whole "don't make a mess" thing. I think Jon is showing that Kate's numerous buttons are becoming more and more annoying for him. I have noticed during the couch interviews that they have seemed like they are under more stress lately. I hope that I am wrong though.

I would love to see every one of those kids get to make a mud pie! Or get to see what mud feels like squishing between your toes. I like Kate and am OCD myself but come on, stains are not the end of the world. Sometimes stains don't come out, so what...those become the "play clothes".

As far as the cupcakes being covered with deadly food coloring, I don't think once a year would hurt anyone.

I don't have OCD but I never would have let my kids play in mud! That is disgusting! I am very fussy with clothes though so if anything is stained I will spend hours trying to get it out. Stained clothes never became play clothes, if I couldn't get those stains out I would toss them in the garbage before I let my kids wear clothes with stains.

I don't think Jon & Kate actually pay for the Gymboree clothes.

or the Juicy Juice

or the Johnson's baby care products

or any other products strategically placed on the show.

so true. I wonder how much they wear those clothes when the camera isn't on them? I'm betting that TPTB on TLC want the kids to look all cute and dressed up while they are on camera...just imagine how it would like if they all wore different clothes? C'mon...it would ruin the whole sextuplet image.

 

[Wonders10]

I'm sorry if you took my post as a bash at yours; I certainly didn't mean it that way. I was just responding to a lot of things I've read here today.

Like I said, I enjoy watching the show. I think the whole family is a hoot!

I'm sorry - I didn't really reply thinking you had responded directly to my posts. I was just responding to some things you said and clarifying some of my previous thoughts.

I agree. I may disagree with some things on the show, but I still watch regularly, including repeats.

 

[PrincessSuzanne]

A. - I've seen those kids in clothes from the Gap; so they don't ONLY wear Gymboree clothes. And, interestingly enough, I remember a thread last fall on the Budget Board (or Families Board- don't remember) about people having a very hard time removing stains from Gymboree clothes and couldn't figure out why. There were alot of posters claiming to have this problem - who knows?

B. - Funny, but last year after the sextuplets had their big carnival theme party for their third birthday, we saw many posts about how over the top that party was; and poor Mady and Cara for not getting a big party like that. This year, Jon & Kate keep it simple and they still get criticized.

C. I have a very good friend who has OCD; her kids are 16, 13, and 9. She is still as obsessive today about them as she was when they were toddlers. The high-schooler comes home w/ a stain on her shirt - the shirt comes right off and goes into a bucket of Oxy-Clean to soak. She is what she is and I don't think she'll ever change; and I'm going to bet that neither will Kate. Maybe she just can't help it. I'm going to guess it wasn't her idea to go to the bakery and she did look tense; but I'm thinking the producers thought it would be fun to watch Kate "freak out" and over-react. It's all about making interesting tv.

And, I also have to question why the bashing is always directed at Kate. Alot of posters were criticizing her for not letting the kids eat their cupcakes, but if you watch the couch interview, there's Jon chiming in how they get no dessert if they don't finish dinner. He seemed to be on board about this too, yet everyone blames Kate.

I really enjoy this show. I think the kids are just precious and I think Jon and Kate do a pretty good job of handling it all. Through it all, we get to see the good, bad, and the ugly. I'm not going to judge or criticize any choices that they make for their children. I don't think any of us should.

I agree with you completely. I would be completely out of my mind if I had 8 children wiht 2 the same age, then 6 younger. I think they do a great job of handling things.

I would still be using sippie cups, one puddle of juice is enough to have to clean up, but can you imagine 6 puddles and that takes her attention away from the children. Those really aren't high chairs, they are more like a booster seat and if it helps them reach the table a little better, then who are they hurting. That table probably has bench seats and that would be hard to put regualr booster seats on, because you can't buckle them down. Most of the time when the kids go potty, several have to go at once, could you imagine having to wait for your 5 brothers and sister to finish before you got to the potty, at that point there would be no reason for the potty, there would be another mess to clean up. Kate doesn't have all day to devote to cleaning house, she has 8 children to care for, she does her own laundry as far as washing and drying. She fixes 3 meals a day, good healthy meals, not junk food. I don't have children and I don't get 3 meals a day.

Give Kate a break.

Suzanne

 

[Kycha]

My favorite kid moment last night was when they were putting the icing on his cupcake, and Joel goes "Oh My!" He said it so cute!

I loved that too. But my favorite is Aaden. He must have been a frog that day. Because I saw someone had written Froggy next to his name on his apron(or maybe it was his cupcake). His face is so expressive. And he is so cute in his little glasses. All the kids are adorable though.

 

[PrincessSuzanne]

I don't have OCD but I never would have let my kids play in mud! That is disgusting! I am very fussy with clothes though so if anything is stained I will spend hours trying to get it out. Stained clothes never became play clothes, if I couldn't get those stains out I would toss them in the garbage before I let my kids wear clothes with stains.

You have got to be kidding me, you would throw out an article of clothing because a stain didn't come out instead of letting them wear them in the yard to play in You apparently have an endless amount of money to buy clothes with. even as an adult, I will keep a stained tee to wear to do yard work, paint, wear around with a pair of sweats. That is wasteful.

Suzanne

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I don't have OCD but I never would have let my kids play in mud! That is disgusting! I am very fussy with clothes though so if anything is stained I will spend hours trying to get it out. Stained clothes never became play clothes, if I couldn't get those stains out I would toss them in the garbage before I let my kids wear clothes with stains.

I am not talking about playing in mud on a daily basis but the once in a blue moon mud pie...can't be beat! My kids are older now but every once in awhile ride bikes thru mud puddles when they are out playing. No sweat for me because they are wearing old clothes if they are outside playing. I keep stained clothing for that purpose or yard work, to each their own.

 

[Camster0307]

She called the twins stupid?

I thought she said "we're being stupid about our shoes again." I was surprised she used the word "stupid" though - regardless of where and how. In my house, that's a "dirty" word.

 

[Nancy]

You have got to be kidding me, you would throw out an article of clothing because a stain didn't come out instead of letting them wear them in the yard to play in You apparently have an endless amount of money to buy clothes with. even as an adult, I will keep a stained tee to wear to do yard work, paint, wear around with a pair of sweats. That is wasteful.

Suzanne

No, not an endless amount of money to spend on clothes but I can say that my kids never wore clothes that had stains on them and neither would I. My choice I just don't like the way it looks even for playing. I do have a tee shirt and shorts I wear for painting but they have paint on the that is not coming out, not dirt or food stains. I spend a lot of time getting stains out of clothes most times I am successful (it becomes a challenge for me) the rare occassions it won't come out, yep they get thrown out. My girls are now 15, 18 1/2 and 20 and they are all careful with their clothes. My 15 yearold keeps a Tide to Go pen in her purse because she tends to spill lots of food (as do I). I don't think it's all that bad to want my kids clothes to look nice. Maybe I am weird but my kids never had seperate clothes for good or play (really couldn't afford to have 2 seperate types of clothes when they were little) maybe that is why I was so nuts about stains, they had to wear their play clothes all the time.

I am not talking about playing in mud on a daily basis but the once in a blue moon mud pie...can't be beat! My kids are older now but every once in awhile ride bikes thru mud puddles when they are out playing. No sweat for me because they are wearing old clothes if they are outside playing. I keep stained clothing for that purpose or yard work, to each their own.

I never had the desire to play in mud...now water heck yeah! I don't think my kids ever played in dirt or mud but if they did they cleaned stuff up before they got home. They had the sandbox and the pool. They pretty much lived in the pool or at the playground when they were little. I got to be a pro at getting out grass stains. And quite right to each their own...this is my family and how I raised them, just the same way the 8 kids are Jon and Kates. I was just pointing out that I can understand where she is coming from with the stains on the clothes.

Anyhow, Back to Jon and Kate...that's what this thread is about, sorry to derail it a bit

 

[sha_lyn]

if that is what was said, it is close to, but not over the line for me
It's not the same as saying "you are stupid" IMHO
But then again I don't see stupid as a "dirty word" IE... Many yrs ago DS said some TV show or something was stupid. He must have been about 6. His friend went nuts saying that DS was cursing.

 

[madge]

She called the twins stupid?

one of the girls was very upset because her (perfectly matched to her outfit) shoes didn't feel good or were too small. Kate gave some snippy, condescending remark about "we're being stupid again" ... paraphrased, but Kate definitely used the word stupid. Kate also went on to tell the girls that it was too bad their shoes hurt, because she wears shoes that make her feet hurt all the time. WTH? A little kindness on the way to CHURCH?!

 

[PrincessSuzanne]

No, not an endless amount of money to spend on clothes but I can say that my kids never wore clothes that had stains on them and neither would I. My choice I just don't like the way it looks even for playing. I do have a tee shirt and shorts I wear for painting but they have paint on the that is not coming out, not dirt or food stains. I spend a lot of time getting stains out of clothes most times I am successful (it becomes a challenge for me) the rare occassions it won't come out, yep they get thrown out. My girls are now 15, 18 1/2 and 20 and they are all careful with their clothes. My 15 yearold keeps a Tide to Go pen in her purse because she tends to spill lots of food (as do I). I don't think it's all that bad to want my kids clothes to look nice. Maybe I am weird but my kids never had seperate clothes for good or play (really couldn't afford to have 2 seperate types of clothes when they were little) maybe that is why I was so nuts about stains, they had to wear their play clothes all the time.

Wow, that still just amazes me. My play clothes were usually the clothes that I had worn to school for that year and looked rough from constant wear, My mother and grandmother worked hard at stain removal, but not all stains come out and it would have been wasteful to throw out an article of clothing. I was raised by a single parent and you just didn't do that. I had a few nice outfits that were kept seperate to wear when we went off, and at the beginning of the summer, my grandmother and i would make shorts and buy t-shirts to match, but she still didn't throw clothes out. I wouldn't have ever had any clothes if they had been thrown out for stains, but I was a tom-boy and played in the mud, the sand box, the grass, fell off my bike a time or two and had stains on the knees. I carry Shout wipes now, because I occassionally spill something, but I would never throw out clothes because of stains.


Suzanne