Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 6

[kidshop]

Jon's lawyer has issued a statement regarding Jon's withdrawal of the $ and Kate's lawyer's letter:

http://www.etonline.com/documents/jgosselin_mjheller_statement_091004.pdf

although I can't even pretend to understand what is going on, this letter is much more professional and lists exact dollar amounts. It also furthers my beliefs that there was no sudden withdrawal of money and Kate does have control over most of the funds. It would seen Kate does not want Jon to have ANY money or access to it. Stay tuned.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

They should have been saving their money and not spending like crazy. I do not believe for one minute that they are unable to pay their bills.

Since Kate referred to the account as liquid, I assumed that is the only money they have access to currently. Not that it is the only money they have together. But who knows.

I am glad she let everyone know that Jon did not touch the kids money.

 

[heartsy77]

But Kate has been going on with her life the past month like nothing happened, so right after Jon does some interviews and it puts her in a bad light, money is suddenly missing? Sorry, but how much is Kate spending on her 3 separate law firms or is TLC footing some of the bill? Kate is out for herself. Would you want to give up your gravy train????

No I would not! I know it easy to pretend we don't live in a money driven world but we do. I am not saying that having this children on tv right now is the best option for them. I am saying at this point it is the only source of income to support them. The previous poster is also correct about the employment situation for nurses. I am currently in nursing school and am glad I have two years and a good job to fall back on. She hasn't practiced in 4 years she may not have even renewed her license. Kate would have to attend many in-service and clinical to be updated; and yes she is famous now so she is almost unemployable as far as a nursing is concerned. Even if she could overcome all this RN's make good money but not enough to support 8 kids by herself. I guess I strive to be realist. Is money the most important thing in the world?No. But is very important for survival with a large family? YOU BET!

 

[DreaGirl]

Where is all the money that Jon quotes in his letter to ET? That is a lot more than Jon took out over this past month. Did she address this on the View?

 

[beattyfamily]

Aren't all of Kate's withdrawals mentioned in the lawyers letter BEFORE they filed for divorce?

 

[kidshop]

Just listened to Kate on the View. I think what we have here is a long-term psychological reaction to the the fact that she had once found herself in a situation where she had no means to support her children and vowed never to put herself in that situation again.

I don't think it is fair to say "She should just be a nurse again." I think that she is right that they can only go forward. This lifestyle is the lifestyle that her kids are accustomed to. As a parent, I would feel so much liked I had failed if I were to suddenly take everything away that my children understand to be "normal".

She says this is the way that they earn money for the family. Jon clearly has no source of income seriously planned to support them (so what child support could she expect? Alimony?). Maybe long-term the show should end if it is really affecting the children....but I'm not sure that I would make different decisions in the short term if it meant seriously disrupting my children's lifestyle (and thus lead to other negative effects).

Also, what proof do we have that these kids are so damaged by being on TV? Really, do these kids act-out any more than any average child and, of course, all we really see is what is on camera?

Honestly, I think a lot of folks are just jealous that Kate is savvy and has found away to provide opportunities and freebies for her children.

Also, it is interesting that the same people who say "she should be home with her children" are the one's who say she should get a normal job to support her kids---which would take her away from home on a regular basis and require the use of babysitters (yet the use of babysitters is also criticized).

The poor woman just can't win in the "court of public opinion".

I do realize that mine is the minority opinion---but so be it. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and that's min.

Kids on TV, fine, if they have to be filmed then get them a guardian and treat them as child actors with limits on their hours filmed, safeguards for their welfare and their own contracts for money.

Do you see nothing wrong with a parent being unable to support their kids unless the kids are filmed for a TV show?

 

[luvmy3jewels]

I don't post to this thread very often, but when the divorce was first announced, I posted my fears about the chances that this divorce would turn very ugly and the affect that it would have on the kids.

Jon & Kate are both on media blitzes to destroy each other. If they are saying what they have been about each other in public, can you imagine what is being said to their kids in private? I don't believe that there is any shred of a chance that they aren't trying to degrade each other in front of their kids?

This entire situation is truly sad, and the real victims are the 8 kids that these immature, sad excuse for parents are leaving behind (let's hope the nannies are providing some stability at this point).

Although I may question his motives, I am extremely glad that Jon has pulled the plug on the show. Unfortunately, it may be too little, too late to save the kids from the scars that will remain long after the Gosselins "15 minutes" have expired.

I didn't see the Today interview, but I wish someone would ask Kate, "Is the money from this show really worth everything that this family is going through?" I understand that the money provides them opportunities they wouldn't have otherwise (like limo rides to concerts, bodyguards, and nannys). However, I don't see how anyone could sell their kids' lives for a chance at fame and fortune!!

 

[redrosesix]

So, those sums at the top of the letter are the monies that have been withdrawn by Kate? I'm confused?

I think those are just the withdrawals that the arbitrator knows about and has demanded information on (and has yet to receive it). From what I gather, there has been no information provided since Kate filed for divorce (which the arbitrator has also demanded), except that she is said to have set up a revocable trust for the children either shortly before or after filing (I can't remember which) into which she stashed much of their cash. This is over and above the amount set aside for college, which was already in place.

And I think this is all confusing because each side is only presenting half of the story (and the only information that Team Jon has was either supplied to them by Kate's lawyers or the arbitrator)

 

[WaltD4Me]

Hospitals are hiring in my area. I see ads all the time for nurses.

They should have been saving their money and not spending like crazy. I do not believe for one minute that they are unable to pay their bills.

Neither Kate or Jon are going back to normal jobs anytime soon. And honestly? I really wouldn't expect them to. I know I wouldn't hire either one of them and realistically who would right now? The whole world knows the baggage they carry and the drama that is going on. Personally I hope Kate gets her talk show or her TLC Kate project show and Jon takes one of his "offers" and they both do well on their own and move on. Then down the road, way down the road, maybe TLC can do a special to catch up with the kids.

 

[brittsmum1998]

I didn't see the Today interview, but I wish someone would ask Kate, "Is the money from this show really worth everything that this family is going through?" I understand that the money provides them opportunities they wouldn't have otherwise (like limo rides to concerts, bodyguards, and nannys). However, I don't see how anyone could sell their kids' lives for a chance at fame and fortune!! That was a quote from luvmy3jewles

Her standard answer is usually "we can only go forward, we can't go back"

 

[tinkerdorabelle]

I think it's ridiculous to think Kate could support all her children working as a nurse. She also does not think, as someone mentioned, that others should support her. If she did she would be on welfare, which many end up on with that many kids. And remember, she didn't have 8 children on purpose or out of irresponsibility.

 

[mla1977]

I didn't see the Today interview, but I wish someone would ask Kate, "Is the money from this show really worth everything that this family is going through?" I understand that the money provides them opportunities they wouldn't have otherwise (like limo rides to concerts, bodyguards, and nannys). However, I don't see how anyone could sell their kids' lives for a chance at fame and fortune!! That was a quote from luvmy3jewles

Her standard answer is usually "we can only go forward, we can't go back"

I agree that I think someone should ask that question, and Kate's answer would probably be the same. HOWEVER, You know Kate would never return to any show that would allow their interviewer to ask that question.

 

[redrosesix]

Kids on TV, fine, if they have to be filmed then get them a guardian and treat them as child actors with limits on their hours filmed, safeguards for their welfare and their own contracts for money.

Do you see nothing wrong with a parent being unable to support their kids unless the kids are filmed for a TV show?

This is the real issue IMO. I'm happy that Lisa Ling questioned this when Kate called in to The View.

 

[DVC Sadie]

Kids on TV, fine, if they have to be filmed then get them a guardian and treat them as child actors with limits on their hours filmed, safeguards for their welfare and their own contracts for money.

Do you see nothing wrong with a parent being unable to support their kids unless the kids are filmed for a TV show?

ITA!

I watched the View this morning when Kate called in to complain about Jon getting money out of the bank. Kate said that her wire transfer didn't go through and called the bank and found out that Jon had transferred the money. It sounds as if Kate was angry that she didn't get to the money first.

Lisa Ling was great, she basically said what I was thinking, that the kids didn't need to be on TV at this time, especially through this whole divorce extravaganza.

This whole situation is horrible, especially for the kids. Jon and Kate are adults and should start acting in the best interest of their kids.

 

[mhsjax]

Hospitals are hiring in my area. I see ads all the time for nurses.

They should have been saving their money and not spending like crazy. I do not believe for one minute that they are unable to pay their bills.

That is wonderful for your area, I have friends in several states that say they are not hiring and there is a nursing site that I visit often and there are a lot of complaints that new nurses and nurses that have been out for a while, can't get jobs right now. And if you read what I said , I did say and capitalize the word IF. I am really just thinking about the kids right now and could care less about either one of the adults in the nasty situation.

 

[mousey]

I think it's ridiculous to think Kate could support all her children working as a nurse. She also does not think, as someone mentioned, that others should support her. If she did she would be on welfare, which many end up on with that many kids. And remember, she didn't have 8 children on purpose or out of irresponsibility.

But people suffer all kinds of setbacks in life all the time and survive. First they could sell the mansion and move to their old house that is still for sale. Get rid of Steve, since he seems like the trigger to the problem in the first place. Just have the babysitters for work purposes only. Jon would have to pay child support and find a real job.

Other single mothers support large families without handouts. Have your family help with babysitting. Just because Kate wants to live a celebrity lifestyle doesn't mean she should be exempt from working just like anyother person.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

Aren't all of Kate's withdrawals mentioned in the lawyers letter BEFORE they filed for divorce?

Perhaps some of those withdrawals were put into the children's account. I wouldn't trust those figures as fact at this point or anything with Mark Heller's name on it.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/exclusive-jon-gosselin-attorney-suspended-practicing-law-guilty-professional

He has been in his share of trouble.

 

[luvmy3jewels]

Also, what proof do we have that these kids are so damaged by being on TV? Really, do these kids act-out any more than any average child and, of course, all we really see is what is on camera?

Back in the early days of the show, I'm not sure that being on TV was particularly damaging. To me, the most damage being done right now is their parents waging war against each other through the media. I know that experiencing their parents go through a nasty divorce is difficult for those kids. I can only imagine how hard it is to have the glare of camera's (from both the show and the tabloids) constantly on them. (And not to mention, seeing your parents constantly degrade each other in the media).

I can't see how anyone can look at what is going on right now and think that this show is a good thing for the kids. They deserve privacy and a chance to have a normal life out of the spotlight!

 

[talulabelle]

So anyone wanna place bets on how long before the first of the children has a sleezy lawyer to "protect them and their money" from their crazy greedy parents? I'll bet when Mady hits 13 she has a lawyer.

 

[tinkerdorabelle]

Do people talk this way about the Duggers?