Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 6

[newtodis]

Did anyone watch the piece on Jon this morning on GMA? They said the rest of the interview would be next Tuesday on GMA and Primetime....The anchor (can't remember her name) said the things he said about Hailey were "surprising".

 

[newtodis]

Here's the link from GMA this morning with a video:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=8467543

After 10 years of marriage, Jon Gosselin says he is done with taking "a lot of abuse" from his soon-to-be ex-wife Kate Gosselin.

"She'll call me like, almost like a lame fish. Like I wasn't going anywhere," Gosselin told "Good Morning America's" Chris Cuomo in his first television interview since the divorce papers were filed.

Gosselin, 32, said he was at home with the eight children -- one set of twins and one of sextuplets -- while his wife was traveling.

"Well, excuse me, I'm taking care of the kids. She's on book tours, she's doing all these things. You know, she's gone a week. You know, comes back. Packs up and leaves again," Gosselin said. "I'm standing there like, 'Oh, OK. Your mom's gone again.'"

The couple, stars of the show "Jon & Kate Plus Eight," has had a public and sometimes nasty breakup.

Tune in to "GMA" Tuesday, Sept. 8, for more of the Jon Gosselin interview.

There were allegations of cheating and an ongoing custody battle that resulted in the police being called to the couple's Pennsylvania home.

"I wouldn't let her in the gate," Gosselin said. "I said I'm spending time with my kids ... and she's going to have to leave and she tried to cry it up with the cops and it didn't work and they told her she had to leave."

Now the former stay-at-home dad is acting more like a playboy. He hosted a recent party in Las Vegas and went sailing this summer on a yacht in Saint Tropez with his girlfriend, Hailey Glassman, 22, who is the daughter of a plastic surgeon who performed Kate's tummy tuck in 2006.

Gosselin spoke to People magazine in July about his relationship with Glassman.

"What began as friendship has grown into something more. I know that my decision to appear publicly with Hailey this weekend will be scrutinized, but I hope that people can see I'm a regular guy who is going through a very difficult time in life and wants to move forward," he told the magazine.

Kate Gosselin has publicly expressed concern about Jon's dating and how it could affect their children.

"Suppose he brought a date over to the house when he has the children?" she said on "Larry King Live." "These are all things that everybody who has been or will be or is in the middle of a divorce ... thinks about."

Since the split, she has tried to explain his behavior by joking that her husband was abducted by aliens.

Now the father of eight says he is fed up and ready to move on.

"I took a lot of abuse from her. I was put down," Gosselin said.

Watch the full Jon Gosselin interview on "Primetime: Family Secrets," Tuesday Sept. 8 at 10 p.m. ET.

 

[DVCisME]

The show only showed a portion of their time at the ranch. Seemed like they wanted to show some segments of Kate alone and they did. I think it was perfectly fine for Kate to do some things separate. I would bet she spent most of the time with them anyway. She could have taken a nanny with her, and she didn't.

Marsha

That's right they showed segments so I wonder how much time she did spend away from them. As for letting go of her control, it can also be seen as her not caring so much about what the kids do as long as she is more visible on the show.
She had someone there to watch her kids. She keeps saying her kids are her priority. Then it should be that way when they are on vacation, esp. since she doesn't see them everyday. And more importantly hasn't seen them very much this year with all of her book touring.
I have nothing against Jon or Kate and I can see things both ways. But to me for a woman who keeps saying she does everything for her kids....I didn't see it.

 

[newtodis]

That's right they showed segments so I wonder how much time she did spend away from them. As for letting go of her control, it can also be seen as her not caring so much about what the kids do as long as she is more visible on the show.
She had someone there to watch her kids. She keeps saying her kids are her priority. Then it should be that way when they are on vacation, esp. since she doesn't see them everyday. And more importantly hasn't seen them very much this year with all of her book touring.
I have nothing against Jon or Kate and I can see things both ways. But to me for a woman who keeps saying she does everything for her kids....I didn't see it.

One thing I think is so important is to give kids a little space and although I haven't watched the entire show yet (I started to last night and fell asleep....), the boys seemed so happy to do whatever they wanted when Mommy wasn't around! They had a great time and I don't think there's anything wrong with them spending time with new/different/safe people. They're getting older and won't want to spend every minute with mom and/or dad regardless of what mom or dad want. Maybe that's part of the dynamic as well. As much as I'd love to spend every minute I'm home with DS5 and 2, they like heading to the playroom and doing their own thing or DS5 heading out to play with his friends or whatever. Some days it's great because Mommy's got way too much to do and some days it's a bummer because mommy needs that snuggle time. Just something you have to deal with as a parent - I think we all know that. Maybe at home she can't let them be "alone" due to the paps or other crazies and has to keep them close and this was their chance to kind of "spread out" for a few days. Just some thoughts

 

[DreaGirl]

The show only showed a portion of their time at the ranch. Seemed like they wanted to show some segments of Kate alone and they did. I think it was perfectly fine for Kate to do some things separate. I would bet she spent most of the time with them anyway. She could have taken a nanny with her, and she didn't.

Marsha

Like someone else said upthread, how do we know that there was no nanny. We didn't see the bodyguard either, but didn't Kate say in an interview that he was there as well?

That's right they showed segments so I wonder how much time she did spend away from them. As for letting go of her control, it can also be seen as her not caring so much about what the kids do as long as she is more visible on the show.
She had someone there to watch her kids. She keeps saying her kids are her priority. Then it should be that way when they are on vacation, esp. since she doesn't see them everyday. And more importantly hasn't seen them very much this year with all of her book touring.
I have nothing against Jon or Kate and I can see things both ways. But to me for a woman who keeps saying she does everything for her kids....I didn't see it.

I totally agree with this statement.

 

[madge]

Like someone else said upthread, how do we know that there was no nanny. We didn't see the bodyguard either, but didn't Kate say in an interview that he was there as well?

I don't think Kate ever travels without at least security, if not a publicist as well. I don't think it's unreasonable to think she had a nanny/babysitter with them on the trip, especially since the trip was for the show.

 

[mousey]

I can't wait to see Jon's entire interview. I think in spite of Jon's recent behavior, he tells it like it is. The interview he gave in Utah revealed a lot about the family that I know Kate was probably pulling her hair out that he said. He really hasn't given a decent interview and it is his turn to tell his side of the story. I don't agree with his recent behavior but he should have a turn to tell what happened in his eyes.

 

[madge]

Here's the link from GMA this morning with a video:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=8467543

the most interesting thing about that story (IMO, of course ) was the mention by the reporter at the very end of the video ... where she says Jon was jealous of all the fancy stuff and wanted a piece of the action.

Makes me wonder if or when there was a point when he went from being unhappy about the marriage, show, life --the desire to go back to obscurity to the wild behavior we see now. So many people that have followed the show seemed to be surprised at Jon's behavior, because it looked so different than it was even 6 months ago.

I'll watch the interview, but suspect it won't be any different than watching Kate. I don't think there's anything to be revealed we don't already know. From the clip, he seems to be well-spoken and appropriately dressed. That's a good start. LOL.

 

[madge]

double post. sorry!

 

[mousey]

I don't know Madge, I think Jon is going to tell all. I don't know if anyone is coaching him through the interview, but he tends to reveal all. In that Utah interview he couldn't stop talking no matter what the reporter asked him he answered. I'm sure Kate's team is thinking of damage control. IMO!

 

[mrsksomeday]

I thought TLC had to approve his interviews? I am curious to see what he has to say, I will watch next week.

 

[madge]

I don't know Madge, I think Jon is going to tell all. I don't know if anyone is coaching him through the interview, but he tends to reveal all. In that Utah interview he couldn't stop talking no matter what the reporter asked him he answered. I'm sure Kate's team is thinking of damage control. IMO!

I agree. I think he's telling his version of "all". I mentioned earlier, every time Jon makes a statement, there's a retraction of what he said about an hour later... probably after the TLC publicity people get wind of what he said and reminds him what he should be saying.

There is 4 sides to this story. Kate's, Jon's, TLC's, and the truth. I don't believe we will ever know an unbiased version of what has truly, without media spin, happened in the last 12-18 months. There's no way we can.

It's rather ironic. I caught a few minutes of last year's Labor Day show, where they went back to the hospital where the children were born. When I watched it last year, it seemed (at the time) contrived and self-serving on the part of TLC and Jon & Kate. Watching it last night made me realize just how much these people have changed in a year's time. It's incredible, really. Even if there were already marital issues, they looked like regular people trying to be good parents. Totally not the fame seeking, camera ready version of themselves that they are now. Interesting and sad, in a way.

 

[KAMKIM]

I wont get into whose side I'm on in this mess of a marriage/divorce...I seem to switch frequently

I will never forget the episode when they were at WDW and the kids were given ice cream in 95 degree weather, and got it all over their shirts and Kate freaked and said the kids were "ruined"

If you could have seen my kids eating ice cream at WDW a few weeks ago when it was 95 degrees....well if anyone ever met the definition of "ruined" I'm sure they did that day, but loved every minute of it....

 

[WaltD4Me]

I can't believe he said he was abused. To me, that is very strong word and yes, I think maybe Kate did verbally abuse him, but Jon is no shrinking violet, he could have handled this very differently and his actions since the split say to me that he really just wanted to get away from the responsibility and live the way he wants to. Kate took it too far, but Jon has always struck me as the kind of person that needs alot of direction, like my BIL, my sister can ask him nicely 10 times to mow the lawn, but he never does it until she yells at him to get out there and mow the darn lawn already!

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

There is 4 sides to this story. Kate's, Jon's, TLC's, and the truth. I don't believe we will ever know an unbiased version of what has truly, without media spin, happened in the last 12-18 months. There's no way we can

Very true.

Seems to me, if Jon is concerned about how he is being portrayed in the media and public perception, then he needs to put his playboy lifestyle on hold. He needs to accept that he is 32 and not 20, hire a grandmother type to be the nanny, stop hanging out at the gate of the property. Does he have a right to move on with his life? Absolutely, I hope Jon and Kate both find happiness, but there is an appropriate time for everything.

He also needs to stop saying things like--how much he prefers being in NY where it is quiet than with his children. I really don't think Jon meant that the way it sounded, but the way it sounded was not good. My point is....Jon has mostly himself to blame for how he is being portrayed in the media.

Based on the last few shows, I do think this divorce will end up making them both better parents. They seem so much more relaxed and able to enjoy life.

 

[madge]

Very true.

Seems to me, if Jon is concerned about how he is being portrayed in the media and public perception, then he needs to put his playboy lifestyle on hold. He needs to accept that he is 32 and not 20, hire a grandmother type to be the nanny, stop hanging out at the gate of the property. Does he have a right to move on with his life? Absolutely, I hope Jon and Kate both find happiness, but there is an appropriate time for everything.

He also needs to stop saying things like--how much he prefers being in NY where it is quiet than with his children. I really don't think Jon meant that the way it sounded, but the way it sounded was not good. My point is....Jon has mostly himself to blame for how he is being portrayed in the media.

Based on the last few shows, I do think this divorce will end up making them both better parents. They seem so much more relaxed and able to enjoy life.

I agree with everything you're saying .. but focusing on the bold part, I especially agree with Jon has himself to blame. He really does. But comments like the one about NYC that are made on the show? Just like everything else, we have no way to know what was said before and after that phrase.

I watch The Bachelor... they do serious mind games with the edits on that show. I read an interview by a former contestant that said he was amazed at what they did to his words. I have NO doubt it's the same on Jon & Kate, with Jon AND Kate. If TLC is siding with Kate, then why wouldn't they make subtle (or not?) edits to make her look more favorable? or vice versa? I think they've been doing it all along. That's why it's not really reality. The Gosselins may just be living their lives .. but what TLC shows us is another version of that.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I agree with everything you're saying .. but focusing on the bold part, I especially agree with Jon has himself to blame. He really does. But comments like the one about NYC that are made on the show? Just like everything else, we have no way to know what was said before and after that phrase.

I watch The Bachelor... they do serious mind games with the edits on that show. I read an interview by a former contestant that said he was amazed at what they did to his words. I have NO doubt it's the same on Jon & Kate, with Jon AND Kate. If TLC is siding with Kate, then why wouldn't they make subtle (or not?) edits to make her look more favorable? or vice versa? I think they've been doing it all along. That's why it's not really reality. The Gosselins may just be living their lives .. but what TLC shows us is another version of that.

That is a valid point for sure. I watch Survivor and former contestants have stated that facial expressions or reactions shown were inserted in places on the show that they were not given in real time.

 

[hbkfan637]

I agree with everything you're saying .. but focusing on the bold part, I especially agree with Jon has himself to blame. He really does. But comments like the one about NYC that are made on the show? Just like everything else, we have no way to know what was said before and after that phrase.

I watch The Bachelor... they do serious mind games with the edits on that show. I read an interview by a former contestant that said he was amazed at what they did to his words. I have NO doubt it's the same on Jon & Kate, with Jon AND Kate. If TLC is siding with Kate, then why wouldn't they make subtle (or not?) edits to make her look more favorable? or vice versa? I think they've been doing it all along. That's why it's not really reality. The Gosselins may just be living their lives .. but what TLC shows us is another version of that.

I agree about the editing. I remember watching the Behind the Scenes episode and feeling really surprised how much difference editing can make. Remember the Korean Dinner episode? The first time I watched it, I thought Kate was crazy and being mean to Jon with her saying stuff like, "You need to get out," "This is my kitchen," etc. However, in the Behind the Scenes episode you can see she was freaking out and talking about the cameras and the number of people in her kitchen area (there were a lot!).

Also, some stars record their interviews with their own camera people when they are being interviewed about something major (usually a scandal). If you watch both versions, the edited version always twists something the star says to create drama.

 

[hbkfan637]

I can't believe he said he was abused. To me, that is very strong word and yes, I think maybe Kate did verbally abuse him, but Jon is no shrinking violet, he could have handled this very differently and his actions since the split say to me that he really just wanted to get away from the responsibility and live the way he wants to. Kate took it too far, but Jon has always struck me as the kind of person that needs alot of direction, like my BIL, my sister can ask him nicely 10 times to mow the lawn, but he never does it until she yells at him to get out there and mow the darn lawn already!

I always got the impression from him too! And Jon gave it to Kate as well. Jon was quieter about it while Kate was loud about it. I guess that's why I always preferred Kate. I rather be around some who's a jerk that's honest about their jerkiness than someone who's a jerk but pretends to be nice.

 

[newtodis]

While TLC viewers were watching Jon Gosselin dress in drag for his daughters Monday night on TV, he was busy living it up during his last night in Sin City.

First, he had dinner with his mom at Stack Restaurant, where they ate lobster tacos and sashimi and washed it down with pomegranate martinis and vodka Red Bulls.

After eating, Jon hit Jet Nightclub at The Mirage. He left Mom behind, but brought along his bodyguard, who was wielding confidentiality agreements for fellow clubgoers. Seriously.

Did anyone actually agree to keep quiet about Jon's partying, like this elegant lady in the blue minidress?

"They had confidentiality agreements with them but they never did hand them out," a source tells E! News, adding that eyewitnesses didn't see anyone actually sign them.

The infamous father of eight kept it classy in the club, chain-smoking and ordering a bottle of Dom Pérignon for $650. He left a generous tip before heading over to XS at 1:30 a.m. for more partying.

Luckily, his late-night clubbing didn't make him miss his flight home this morning.

"On the plane, can't wait to see the kids!!!" he just posted on his new Twitter.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/hwood_party_girl/b142132_jon_gosselin_goes_clubbing_with_his.html

madge - do you mind following his twitter please?