Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 6

[MusiqChic99]

IMO, It's probably better if they split the day. What 9 year old wants to spend their birthday with 2 fighting parents???

If they can't be civil then yes split the day. Otherwise suck it up and be happy for one day for those girls. Seriously all you hear out of both of them is "i do everything for my kids". This is a great time to start proving it.

 

[MAKmom]

Tomorrow should be a school day for them. Still, how hard can it be to split the rest of the day. One parent take them & celebrate from 3-6, handoff, 6-9, bed. See - easy peasy.

Kate text him and asked him to pick them up at the bus & take them from 4 to 6. He said no way he is not driving all the way to Pa for 2 hours.

If I was Kate I would do a big birthday breakfast & let Jon do the birthday dinner with them.

How can they ever do holidays. Jon will want to be with his GF on holidays & Kate will not have that.

 

[Starbrite]

Back on topic:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/jon-gosselin-says-kate-does-not-want-see-him-will-only-allow-him-two-hours-his

I found this part interesting...


Tomorrow is the twins' birthday and according to Jon he has the legal right to spend all day with them, and he is not going to spend just two hours with them.
Jon plans to buy the girls watches, get them a birthday cake, and spend as much time as he wants with them, saying he may even spend the night at the house, which he says he has every right to do as he still owns half of it.

Well look who's on the other side of the fence now....
How long ago was it that Kate showed up home & it was "his" day and he locked her out & told her she had no right to be there? I guess that doesn't apply to him?

 

[redrosesix]

Back on topic:

It will be a miracle if those two boneheads can come together for one day and give Cara and Mady a nice birthday. I know what I will be praying for tonight.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/jon-gosselin-says-kate-does-not-want-see-him-will-only-allow-him-two-hours-his

Wow -- now I know why they don't take each other's calls. This is going to be one of those times that I don't mind Jon making things public -- Kate was so out of line with that email. Although if Jon had not just received it before the paparazzi caught up with him we might never have known about it since I'm sure that's not the first time she's received an email like that (or vice versa)

For anybody who hasn't viewed it, it contains a lot more than just information about the birthday...soooo, the nannies are paid for by TLC but Kate schedules them, sometimes left him without nannies for filming days (so he had to pay for babysitting on those days out of his own money)? I take back everything I've ever said about them cutting costs by cutting back on staff, because if TLC is paying for the nannies, then they are most definitely paying for the bodyguard and the personal assistant. No wonder Kate's so ticked about the prospect of the show ending.

 

[mrsksomeday]

Move along folks...... Nothing to see here

You are so right. I have taken my own advice and used the handy dandy "ignore" option .

If they can't be civil then yes split the day. Otherwise suck it up and be happy for one day for those girls. Seriously all you hear out of both of them is "i do everything for my kids". This is a great time to start proving it.

I agree with this, I don't see them being civil, I wish they could be though for the girls.

 

[redrosesix]

I found this part interesting...


Tomorrow is the twins' birthday and according to Jon he has the legal right to spend all day with them, and he is not going to spend just two hours with them.
Jon plans to buy the girls watches, get them a birthday cake, and spend as much time as he wants with them, saying he may even spend the night at the house, which he says he has every right to do as he still owns half of it.

Well look who's on the other side of the fence now....
How long ago was it that Kate showed up home & it was "his" day and he locked her out & told her she had no right to be there? I guess that doesn't apply to him?

I don't think it is the same. Under the terms of the custody agreement, birthdays and holidays are shared joint custody days. So they both have a right to be there for the whole day -- whether they both have a right to be at the house overnight might be open to interpretation, but they still have an apartment over the garage so it's not as if they have to sleep in the same bedroom. It would be nice for the kids if they were able to do this for them -- Christmas is less than 3 months away and it would be great if they could wake up Christmas day with both parents there.

 

[MAKmom]

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Jon and Kate Battle Over Twins' Birthday

By Michael Y. Park
Originally posted Wednesday October 07, 2009 03:30 PM EDT

Jon and Kate Gosselin

Amid all the drama surrounding her crumbling marriage, Kate Gosselin has had one bright spot on the horizon. "Thursday is Cara and Mady’s 9th birthday," Kate, 34, tells PEOPLE, referring to her twins. "That's my focus to get me through the next few days. I'm going to bake a chocolate cake from scratch, and that's going to feel normal and happy."

Now, however, Kate's dreams of a happy birthday for her oldest children seem in doubt. On Wednesday, Jon told ET Online that Kate is trying to change their joint-custody arrangement so that he is only at their Pennsylvania home from 4 p.m. to 6 p.m. on Thursday, as well as altering their agreement for the weekend – a move Jon claims his tantamount to barring him from the birthday festivities altogether.

"She's trying to prevent me from seeing my kids on Mady and Cara's birthday," he says. "That's like giving her full custody by obeying her. She can't tell me what to do. I'm not going to allow it. I'm just going to stay. I own the house so I can do what I want."

"She's trying to prevent me from seeing my kids on their birthday because she doesn't want to see me," he says. "She doesn't want to hear my apology. She doesn’t want to work things out."

More to come ...

What is the apology about now?

 

[mousey]

I don't remember this much fuss being put into Cara & Mady's birthday in past years. In fact, I can't remember any episodes of them celebrating anything for these two except their special day which always ended up in tears anyway.

I'm sure that once the divorce is final, they will have to take turns with birthdays and holidays. What judge is going to demand that 2 divorced parents spend a childs birthday or holiday together.

For the sake of the twins, I hope J & K can put the kids birthday first and foremost and take themselves out of the limelight.

 

[Starbrite]

I don't think it is the same. Under the terms of the custody agreement, birthdays and holidays are shared joint custody days. So they both have a right to be there for the whole day -- whether they both have a right to be at the house overnight might be open to interpretation, but they still have an apartment over the garage so it's not as if they have to sleep in the same bedroom. It would be nice for the kids if they were able to do this for them -- Christmas is less than 3 months away and it would be great if they could wake up Christmas day with both parents there.

Sorry - I read the article before watching the clip. It's definately open to interpretation.

Children of divorced parents split days all the time, it's not earth shattering. In fact, I really think it's better in hostile situations like this.


Next item for discussion...
Who was the woman at the end of the clip? Whoever she was, he really shut-up fast when she came.

 

[MusiqChic99]

I don't remember this much fuss being put into Cara & Mady's birthday in past years. In fact, I can't remember any episodes of them celebrating anything for these two except their special day which always ended up in tears anyway.

I'm sure that once the divorce is final, they will have to take turns with birthdays and holidays. What judge is going to demand that 2 divorced parents spend a childs birthday or holiday together.

For the sake of the twins, I hope J & K can put the kids birthday first and foremost and take themselves out of the limelight.

You are right. No judge will demand that. I remember Kate saying she will not spend a holiday away from her kids. Does that mean she wants to be with them the whole day or just have most of it while Jon gets a hour or 2??

Again forgiveness would be good at any time right now.

And remember the younger 6's birthday??? Televised event...both parents there...of course they were still playing hubby and wife then but still. They didnt' interact with each other.

 

[Starbrite]

You are right. No judge will demand that. I remember Kate saying she will not spend a holiday away from her kids. Does that mean she wants to be with them the whole day or just have most of it while Jon gets a hour or 2??

It can be done fairly....
My divorce agreement seperates specific holidays from 9a-3p w/ dad & 3p-9p w/ mom.

 

[redrosesix]

If they can't be civil then yes split the day. Otherwise suck it up and be happy for one day for those girls. Seriously all you hear out of both of them is "i do everything for my kids". This is a great time to start proving it.

ITA with this.

Kate text him and asked him to pick them up at the bus & take them from 4 to 6. He said no way he is not driving all the way to Pa for 2 hours.

If I was Kate I would do a big birthday breakfast & let Jon do the birthday dinner with them.

How can they ever do holidays. Jon will want to be with his GF on holidays & Kate will not have that.

Sorry, but the way you wrote that makes it sound like he doesn't think it's worth the bother to see his girls on their birthday if he can only see them for 2 hours. I didn't get that impression at all, since he said it is his right to spend the whole day with them based on the court order.

Sorry - I read the article before watching the clip. It's definately open to interpretation.

Children of divorced parents split days all the time, it's not earth shattering. In fact, I really think it's better in hostile situations like this.


Next item for discussion...
Who was the woman at the end of the clip? Whoever she was, he really shut-up fast when she came.

Yup -- I really want to know that. I'm going to have to watch it again and see if I can figure out what she said to him -- it was pretty muffled by the street noise.

 

[mrsksomeday]

What happened to "we will spend all the holidays and birthdays together as a family" and "it is the kids house, it belongs to them". They are making me sick, those poor children .

 

[kidshop]

I found this part interesting...


Tomorrow is the twins' birthday and according to Jon he has the legal right to spend all day with them, and he is not going to spend just two hours with them.
Jon plans to buy the girls watches, get them a birthday cake, and spend as much time as he wants with them, saying he may even spend the night at the house, which he says he has every right to do as he still owns half of it.

Well look who's on the other side of the fence now....
How long ago was it that Kate showed up home & it was "his" day and he locked her out & told her she had no right to be there? I guess that doesn't apply to him?

It's not 'Kate's day'. Holidays are shared custody per the agreement. Jon does have a right to be there as does Kate.

 

[redrosesix]

Next item for discussion...
Who was the woman at the end of the clip? Whoever she was, he really shut-up fast when she came.

Ok, I went back to try and figure out what she said to him and this is what I have so far:
Woman: Hey
Jon: Hey
Woman: What's goin on?
Jon: (blank stare)
Woman: ??? sounds like Are we meeting Matt?
Jon: I don't know
Woman: ???
Jon: oh sorry (to the reporters: But anyway I gotta do what I gotta do)
Woman: this is really bad
Jon: sorry
Woman: Just say you gotta go
Jon: I gotta go.

Must be his PR people.

I take it this is where Jon lives because he changed his shirt and dropped off the presents at some point. Also, not like I want him to spend money, but he's going to wear that black suit jacket out he wears it so much.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

At least Kate does present herself in a civilized manner in the email:

She states according to Jon's reading:

Due to the recent events, it will be too stressful for the kids to have both of us here as originally planned. I would like to split the evening so they can see us both. I would appreciate if you would pick them up at the bus stop tomorrow at 4 and stay till 6.

She isn't demanding or hateful. I didn't think about them being in school, so really the time split would be fair considering it is a school night. And as others have said, maybe for now that would be better than watching/hearing them scowl and growl at each other.

 

[kidshop]

Ok, I went back to try and figure out what she said to him and this is what I have so far:
Woman: Hey
Jon: Hey
Woman: What's goin on?
Jon: (blank stare)
Woman: ??? sounds like Are we meeting Matt?
Jon: I don't know
Woman: ???
Jon: oh sorry (to the reporters: But anyway I gotta do what I gotta do)
Woman: this is really bad
Jon: sorry
Woman: Just say you gotta go
Jon: I gotta go.

Must be his PR people.

I take it this is where Jon lives because he changed his shirt and dropped off the presents at some point. Also, not like I want him to spend money, but he's going to wear that black suit jacket out he wears it so much.

I know Jon is 'being nice' and he's a social guy, but he does not have to talk to these people who follow him. It's ok to blow off the paps! He needs to nod and smile and keep walking! They're used to it! Please, Jon, take the free advice! They are just using you.

 

[WaltD4Me]

At least Kate does present herself in a civilized manner in the email:

She states according to Jon's reading:

Due to the recent events, it will be too stressful for the kids to have both of us here as originally planned. I would like to split the evening so they can see us both. I would appreciate if you would pick them up at the bus stop tomorrow at 4 and stay till 6.

She isn't demanding or hateful. I didn't think about them being in school, so really the time split would be fair considering it is a school night. And as others have said, maybe for now that would be better than watching/hearing them scowl and growl at each other.

I have to agree...about it being better to split the time at this point. It doesn't matter if Jon and Kate don't say one word to each other or are even civil to each other, the tension will be felt and say it all. It'll make everyone uncomfortable and not make for a fun time. Kids are smart, they'll know mommy and daddy are unhappy and that is no way to spend you 9th birthday.

Does it really matter...for either of them...if they celebrate on Thursday and Friday? Kate does one day, Jon does the other. Sheesh.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I know Jon is 'being nice' and he's a social guy, but he does not have to talk to these people who follow him. It's ok to blow off the paps! He needs to nod and smile and keep walking! They're used to it! Please, Jon, take the free advice! They are just using you.

That is the annoying part. Everyone around him is using him, IMO. The paps, his "friends", women, attorney. Jon is a nice guy but he has terrible judgment in people right now. And I think he likes the attention.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I found this part interesting...


Tomorrow is the twins' birthday and according to Jon he has the legal right to spend all day with them, and he is not going to spend just two hours with them.
Jon plans to buy the girls watches, get them a birthday cake, and spend as much time as he wants with them, saying he may even spend the night at the house, which he says he has every right to do as he still owns half of it.

Well look who's on the other side of the fence now....
How long ago was it that Kate showed up home & it was "his" day and he locked her out & told her she had no right to be there? I guess that doesn't apply to him?

I think he is inferring that it is his custodial day (my interpretation). Kate showed up on a non-custodial day.

Though it is interesting that he is arguing that he owns half of the house.


Anyone remember Irreconciable Differences with a young Drew Barrymore. It's like they got a copy of the script and are following it to the tee. Only since their are twins, there won't be any trying to split one child in half.

I know they can't stand each other--but geesh! Give it up already--this is flesh and blood, not pawns in a chess match.