Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[OhMari]

I pop in from time to time and read these great comments, but have never posted before.



I think J&K really blew it, I don't know if they could fix it but I think they owe it to their kids to try, and the first step is to stop the show. But for the new family, I just wonder, why not learn from J&K's mistakes?

What is the saying? Those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it. I know it wasn't meant for reality TV, but it seems appropriate.


I really don't understand???

Hi, I pop in from time to time too.
We all know that Jon and Kate are now divorcing,
but does anyone wonder why Jon isn't willing to try
counseling or go to therapy? Heck, maybe he does
and we don't know it. I know someone that up and left his wife,
because his therapist told him it would be for the best.
It just seems wierd that Jon has such anger, that he won't speak to Kate, or she said he hasn't for the last couple of months without each incident being a huge blow-up. I don't see how he can turn around now and agree on an divorce with that much hatred. There are going to be so many decisions that Jon and Kate will need to determine with those kids. It will be sad, when Jon figures out his new life he is excited for, won't be any greener on the other side. He is going to end up looking in to his old life, and not be able to do anything because he is throwing it away. Sure they say they will have joint custody, but I have a feeling this divorce is not going to be very nice.

 

[redrosesix]

He is going back to IT I thought. I am glad to see he will not bring the kids to NY and film them.

I heard IT too. I know a few people in those fields -- lots of short weeks and very late nights ie. when everybody else has left the office for the day. Sounds about right for a 4 day week.

I wouldn't be surprised if the rumour about TLC trying to get him to move the kids back and forth to NY were true -- they need more places to go to boost the ratings.

So he will be away from them every Mon.-Thursday?

Apparently. But he can't be with them Mon-Thurs because those are Kate's days.

 

[redrosesix]

Hi, I pop in from time to time too.
We all know that Jon and Kate are now divorcing,
but does anyone wonder why Jon isn't willing to try
counseling or go to therapy? Heck, maybe he does
and we don't know it. I know someone that up and left his wife,
because his therapist told him it would be for the best.
It just seems wierd that Jon has such anger, that he won't speak to Kate, or she said he hasn't for the last couple of months without each incident being a huge blow-up. I don't see how he can turn around now and agree on an divorce with that much hatred. There are going to be so many decisions that Jon and Kate will need to determine with those kids. It will be sad, when Jon figures out his new life he is excited for, won't be any greener on the other side. He is going to end up looking in to his old life, and not be able to do anything because he is throwing it away. Sure they say they will have joint custody, but I have a feeling this divorce is not going to be very nice.

I don't know. It is already ugly, but it seems like Kate's been doing all of the talking.

If I were Jon I'd be angry at myself for not sticking up for myself more.
In this clip, it clearly shows he doesn't want to do the show anymore:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKyu...egory/episode-recaps/&feature=player_embedded

But he did it anyway!

One has to wonder if he doesn't regret not standing up to her in the middle of WDW when she threw their ice creams away. If you think about it, he hasn't been standing up for his kids either -- he should have a lot of guilt by now.

 

[SkyGirl]

Did anyone see the pictures of Kate in this weeks People? Her hair was tamed!! It was down flat in the back in all the pictures. I was shocked.

My opinion only: I hate her hair with the passion of a thousand suns. Okay, maybe not that much, but it is butt ugly.

I hope this wasn't already discussed!!

 

[Buckalew11]

He gets the kids 3 days, she gets them 4 days. Since they are doing the custody in the house, and there are only 7 days a week, that's the way it's going to work out.

Apparently. But he can't be with them Mon-Thurs because those are Kate's days.

I realize they can't be with them everyday because they are divorced but he is REALLY away in NYC. I wonder how far Kate will be from them during those 3 days. I hope she is not far--in case they need her.

What if you just want your other parent? Doesn't that ever happen during time apart? I guess you call or skype. This scenerio makes me so sad. I think I feel seperation anxiety sympathy pains for them. Maybe because there is so many of them they won't want the other parent during the wrong time. But what if there was an emergency and he is 150 miles away? I think this sounds worse than cameras in your face.

 

[Buckalew11]

Did anyone see the pictures of Kate in this weeks People? Her hair was tamed!! It was down flat in the back in all the pictures. I was shocked.

My opinion only: I hate her hair with the passion of a thousand suns. Okay, maybe not that much, but it is butt ugly.

I hope this wasn't already discussed!!

I like it tamed. I like it in those PEOPLE photos.

 

[Anjelica]

I don't know. It is already ugly, but it seems like Kate's been doing all of the talking.

If I were Jon I'd be angry at myself for not sticking up for myself more.
In this clip, it clearly shows he doesn't want to do the show anymore:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKyu...egory/episode-recaps/&feature=player_embedded

But he did it anyway!

One has to wonder if he doesn't regret not standing up to her in the middle of WDW when she threw their ice creams away. If you think about it, he hasn't been standing up for his kids either -- he should have a lot of guilt by now.

That's what I don't understand - he clearly said on the show he finally stood up for himself, and was quite proud of that fact. Why would he then revert back and not stick up for himself after he just touted to the world he was?

I truly feel like he's lost and is having an identity crisis. Mini mid-life crisis?? I said this earlier - he's been checked out of this marriage for quite some time.

 

[kritter]

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[DMRick]

If I were Jon I'd be angry at myself for not sticking up for myself more.
In this clip, it clearly shows he doesn't want to do the show anymore:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKyu...egory/episode-recaps/&feature=player_embedded

But he did it anyway!

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It's too bad he had already signed the contract.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

I don't know. It is already ugly, but it seems like Kate's been doing all of the talking.

If I were Jon I'd be angry at myself for not sticking up for myself more.
In this clip, it clearly shows he doesn't want to do the show anymore:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKyu...egory/episode-recaps/&feature=player_embedded

But he did it anyway!

One has to wonder if he doesn't regret not standing up to her in the middle of WDW when she threw their ice creams away. If you think about it, he hasn't been standing up for his kids either -- he should have a lot of guilt by now.

He doesn't want to do the show or he doesn't like the attention from the show? Those are 2 different things IMO. He did stick up for himself lots of times when he made snide comments to Kate or argued right back at her. And he obviously signed on for another season.

I think people who've watched the show (and I'm guessing his gal pal Deanna) told him he was being mistreated and to stand up for himself. He decided he wasn't going to take it from Kate and shut down which is why Kate said he won't discuss it with her and that he's so angry with her.

Ah, the infamous Disney ice cream episode. I don't understand why that was such a big deal with everyone. The ice cream was literally melting into soup. I'd have thrown it away too and just got gotten them something else. Of course that may have very well happened and TLC edited it out.

I don't quite understand how he didn't stand up for kids. Can you give some examples? I'm interested to know and I'm not being snarky.

 

[redrosesix]

He doesn't want to do the show or he doesn't like the attention from the show? Those are 2 different things IMO. He did stick up for himself lots of times when he made snide comments to Kate or argued right back at her. And he obviously signed on for another season.

Good point -- maybe it was the attention. But, having looked at clips from the show, there are lots of things that Kate has said to him on camera that would have caused a meltdown if it were said in our home -- he just withdrew and said nothing.

I think people who've watched the show (and I'm guessing his gal pal Deanna) told him he was being mistreated and to stand up for himself. He decided he wasn't going to take it from Kate and shut down which is why Kate said he won't discuss it with her and that he's so angry with her.

I'm thinking he was talking with his mother a lot during those 8 days.

Ah, the infamous Disney ice cream episode. I don't understand why that was such a big deal with everyone. The ice cream was literally melting into soup. I'd have thrown it away too and just got gotten them something else. Of course that may have very well happened and TLC edited it out.

Apparently not -- he made some comment about wanting to let the kids enjoy the princesses. I was pretty mad when she said the kids were "ruined".

I don't quite understand how he didn't stand up for kids. Can you give some examples? I'm interested to know and I'm not being snarky.

The Crayola factory, the time on the beach when she wouldn't let them jump in the waves. It just seems like every time he and the kids disagreed with what Kate had decided, he backed down instead of teaching them how to fight their own battles properly. since joining this thread, I've made an effort to go and look at lots of clips from the show -- realized why I had given up on them after the WDW ice cream incident.

 

[redrosesix]

I realize they can't be with them everyday because they are divorced but he is REALLY away in NYC. I wonder how far Kate will be from them during those 3 days. I hope she is not far--in case they need her.

What if you just want your other parent? Doesn't that ever happen during time apart? I guess you call or skype. This scenerio makes me so sad. I think I feel seperation anxiety sympathy pains for them. Maybe because there is so many of them they won't want the other parent during the wrong time. But what if there was an emergency and he is 150 miles away? I think this sounds worse than cameras in your face.

Co-parenting isn't really any different that way than other forms of custody, but it sure beats the every 2nd weekend deal that a lot of kids have. And being 2 1/2 hours away (just did the google directions) is really not that far -- some people commute almost that far every day.

Many, many families have arrangements like this and they're still together -- with the economy the way it is, you have to take work where you can get it. My DH is 4 hours away right now, and will be there for the rest of the summer. Some families we know have dads in the Coast Guard, or working on oil rigs, and they're away a lot longer than 4 days.

Added: Just wanted to note that I have a friend in IT here and she is away more often than she's home because the jobs are all over the country. If Jon can get a job doing that in NY, it would be a lot less travel because the jobs would likely be right there.

 

[madge]

No! this part: which recently concluded on TLC with the announcement that Gosselin and her husband would be separating after acts of infidelity and neglectful parenting.

totally missed that part!

I'm guessing someone got their facts wrong.

 

[madge]

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I knew it was the mail place, I just assumed from the amount of times they've been photographed coming out of FedEx, that was it. LOLOL

 

[madge]

A huge conference in Toronto cancelled her appearance there in the fall -- apparently they're not too happy with her attitude as of late.

that may or may not be true... at least that's not the reason they're giving. someone else is managing the event and is taking it in a different direction, and will be making all new bookings.

 

[figment52]

I am going over to read your PTR . If anyone wants even more reading come on by my PTR too here . We are taking my 20 year old son, his girlfriend, and her two kids to WDW in November. I need advice on the kids front, I am scared .

I hope you are right that they enjoy this break from the media and try to get back to normal a bit.

Advice ---
Don't feed kids ice cream in the hot afternoon sun - it will just "ruin them".

 

[redrosesix]

Advice ---
Don't feed kids ice cream in the hot afternoon sun - it will just "ruin them".

That made me LOL

 

[Epcot luvr]

I was just thinking if Jon did in fact get offered an IT job, TLC must have helped him. IT, is constantly changing and him being out of the workforce for so long I do no think his skills are as sharp as they could be. There are so many very qualifed people in NYC and the surrounding areas looking employment in the IT field I can't believe he would have been a first choice for any corporation.
Has TLC written all over it. He will probably be the IT guy at that wedding dress store, Kleinfelds (sp?).

I just checked out the front of the People magazine. I read somewhere an open letter to Kate by some big wig PR person, in the letter they told her she needed to change the hair for various very valid reasons. They said to do it slowly and subtly so people don't notice. Funny thing this week the hat, now the hair is much calmer on the cover. Could be a coincidence but, seems to me she is going to mellow her hair .

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

So the set up as far as we know at this point is Kate has them Mon-Thur and Jon Fri-Sun? That isn't going to work for long. What happens when school starts? Surely this will be adjusted to include weekends for each parent.

 

[ksjayhawks]

What if you just want your other parent? Doesn't that ever happen during time apart? I guess you call or skype. But what if there was an emergency and he is 150 miles away?

You do what a lot of families do who have a parent who travels for work, works a night shift, is in the military, traveling overseas, etc. You call and talk to them. Same for the emergency.