John Edwards chosen by Kerry as VP

Originally posted by Miss Jasmine
Hey, did you all know Edwards interrupted his WDW vacation for a meeting with Kerry? :p

Well, his choice of vacation places is great but leaving for a meeting....nah, should have told Kerry to either meet him there or he'd be back on such and so date, especially since the news is reporting that Edwards wasn't even Kerry's 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice ;)
 
bcvillastwo- I'm sorry that you took my (perhaps poor) attempt at humor to heart. Yes, I did read your post and got your point about the comparison being restricted to their capacities as businessmen. It is just a leap I've never taken, comparing Bush to any past president of stature on any level, and it seemed a strange exercise at first glance.

I'm not an expert on economics, by any means, so I'm sure your comparison has some valid points. And in a history of economics, I'm sure this could be a compelling study- go for it! I tend to gravitate toward social history, however. I'm not arguing that one history is better than the other, but when I think of Lincoln I tend to remember how his policies and leadership affected the way Americans interact in their everyday lives. I take the same approach to analyzing the Bush presidency, which is why these figures seem so dissimilar to me.

OK, sorry for the sidetrack. Go Kerry/Edwards!
 

Well, so much for Kerry thinking Edwards hadn't paid his dues. This certainly tells Gephardt what Kerry thinks of him.

When I came back from Vietnam in 1969, I don't know if John Edwards was out of diapers then."

- John Kerry, January 2004

(BTW, I didn't know Kerry served in Vietnam. Why isn't he talking about that more?)

And, say goodbye to any tort reform. Frivilous lawsuits will be the order of the day IF Kerry gets elected. They have the trial lawyers in their back pocket now. I'm surprised the Dems would choose someone that got rich by taking advantage of the "little guy". This guy made millions suing people that deliver babies.

Well, one thing the Dems can be proud of. This certainly has to be one of the wealthiest tickets in recent memory.

So, what do you get when you cross a gigolo with an ambulance chaser?

It's also nice to see someone who supports Bush run for veep. From Hardball, Oct 13, 2003
ANNOUNCER: Live from the Institute of Politics at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government, the "Battle for the White House."

CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: In the next hour, he's in his first term of the United States Senate. Now he's running for president. My special guest tonight, Senator John Edwards of North Carolina.

Let me ask about the war, because I know these are all students and a lot of guys the age of these students are fighting over there and cleaning up over there, and they're doing the occupation.

Were we right to go to this war alone [sic], basically without the Europeans behind us [sic]? Was that something we had to do?

EDWARDS: I think that we were right to go. I think we were right to go to the United Nations. I think we couldn't let those who could veto in the Security Council hold us hostage.

And I think Saddam Hussein being gone is good. Good for the American people, good for the security of that region of the world, and good for the Iraqi people.

MATTHEWS: If you think the decision, which was made by the president, when basically he saw the French weren't with us and the Germans and the Russians weren't with us, was he right to say, "We're going anyway"?

EDWARDS: I stand behind my support of that, yes.

MATTHEWS: You believe in that?

EDWARDS: Yes.

MATTHEWS: Let me ask you - since you did support the resolution and you did support that ultimate solution to go into combat and to take over that government and occupy that country. Do you think that you, as a United States Senator, got the straight story from the Bush administration on this war? On the need for the war? Did you get the straight story?

EDWARDS: Well, the first thing I should say is I take responsibility for my vote. Period. And I did what I did based upon a belief, Chris, that Saddam Hussein's potential for getting nuclear capability was what created the threat. That was always the focus of my concern. Still is the focus of my concern.

So did I get misled? No. I didn't get misled.

So, what do you get when you cross a gigolo with an ambulance chaser?
 
Second, I can't comment on the quality of his cased because I don't know much about them.

I have taken a look at some of his cases and at his history as an attorney.

Many of his cases involved injuries to children. Most notably, the case where a small girl was horribly and permanently injured involving a drain on a public pool. The company was well aware of how dangerous the drain system was as there had been many other reports of injuries to children. They chose to not do anything although the change would have been fairly simple. Basically the child lost virtually all her intestines and will be on feeding tubes the remainder of her life.

He was meticulous in researching his cases to insure that he did not file frivolous lawsuits. Oddly enough, Republicans have been critical of him for only taking a fraction of the cases that came to him.

The Republicans cost themselves dearly fixating on his career as a lawyer in the Senate race, but if they want to try it again so be it. Edwards is not the typical personal injury lawyer no matter how they try and twist it.


But, we should all recognize that often, in fact maybe more often than not, when a trial lawyer is successful and their cases involve sueing business entities------------the cost of the loss is passed on to their customers.

Don't blame a lawyer because a business chooses to ignore dangers related to their products or because an individual was negligent. In the case I described, the company offered to settle for a decent amount only after it was discovered that there was a long history of problems with their product and they were going to be slapped with huge punitive damages for allowing it to continue when they could've stopped other children from being injured.
 
Lol....That's hilarious...A Republican attack (sinking as low as telling obnoxious jokes) is proven wrong, in detail, in less than two minutes...That's got to be some kind of record :)
 
Well, we certainly know better than to think you're going to add anything to the discussion dmadman43.

Oh, wait, that's not new information! We already knew that about your posting style! :)

And as far as you not knowing about Kerry's military service, yet again a great example of what an informed voter you are! No wonder you support w so whole-heartedly! :rotfl:
 
Originally posted by wvrevy
Lol....That's hilarious...A Republican attack (sinking as low as telling obnoxious jokes) is proven wrong, in detail, in less than two minutes...That's got to be some kind of record :)

Really?

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/09/15/edwardss_career_tied_to_jury_award_debate/

So much for both health care and tort reform. Gotta love a guy that choses to take 40% of settlement awards. What a big heart this guy has. But hey, if you still want health care costs to continue to go up due to increasing malpractice insurance, then vote for Kerry/Edward
Now, spurred by President Bush, Republicans are seeking to limit awards for pain and suffering, saying juries are driving up the cost of health care. On Saturday, Texas voters narrowly supported a $750,000 cap on pain and suffering awards. Today, North Carolina is scheduled to consider limiting such awards to $250,000. While Edwards helped block a similar bill in the Senate last July, Republicans are vowing to take it up again, putting Edwards -- and his career -- back in the spotlight.

"To the extent that he's been able to persuade a jury, he's succeeded," said state Senator Robert Pittenger of North Carolina, referring to Edwards's ability to make a jury cater to his client's needs. But Pittenger, a Republican supporting limits on jury awards, insists, "That's not, to me, an equitable way to try to stabilize the health care industry."
 
Originally posted by dmadman43

So, what do you get when you cross a gigolo with an ambulance chaser? [/B]

A Clinton wannabee?

I know what you get when you cross a gigolo and a gold-digger - Kerry.
 
peachgirl

This is my last comment on this particular subject, after that I will let you have the last word.

I don't recall any of my previous posts in this column blaming Mr. Edwards or any other lawyer for anything. You are choosing to impose your belief that I was blaming him for something. I was merlely trying to point out that there are costs associated with such law suits and that those costs are generally paid by consumers. In other words, there are costs beyond the immediate outcome of litigation.

Again, I never said or suggested that the litigation that Mr. Edwards was involved was frivolus in fact as I recall I said that I didn't know much beyond that fact that he was a trial lawyer.

Finally, I also acknowledged that there are incompetent and unscrupulous businessmen and women in virtually every line of work, this included lawyers by the way. There are also incompetent and unscrupulous clergy, politicians, etc. No particular calling, profession, or trade has the market cornered on honesty, dishonesty, or incompetence.

One of my concerns is that all too often, people only look at the 1st cause or result from a particular action while either ingnoring or failing to realize that actions usually have consequences beyond the immediate result. Sometimes, it's not the initial result that causes a problem, but susequent ones surely do.
 
Originally posted by ThreeCircles
Well, we certainly know better than to think you're going to add anything to the discussion dmadman43.

Oh, wait, that's not new information! We already knew that about your posting style! :)



Once again, lacking any self-control, ThreeCircles cannot resist the urge to take a shot. ThreeCircles, care to address Edwards interiew in Hardball? Do you not deny this would be one of the richest tickets in history? This from a party this is supposed to be for "the little guy"? Do you deny that Kerry was on record as saying Edwards had not paid his dues. What was not substantive about what I posted. Also, wasn't it you that made fun of me for suggesting that one of the reasons VP candidates are chosen is to help them win votes in certains states? Well, lo and behold we have some people here suggesting Kerry was chosed to help win Ohio. Would you mind telling them they don't know what they are talking about, either.

And as far as you not knowing about Kerry's military service, yet again a great example of what an informed voter you are! No wonder you support w so whole-heartedly! :rotfl: [/B]

Man! I love a good staightman, don't you??? Bwa ha ha ha ha.

No flies on you, man. :rolleyes:
 
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"you never close your eyes when I kiss you lips...anymore....."
 
Originally posted by dmadman43
Really?

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/09/15/edwardss_career_tied_to_jury_award_debate/

So much for both health care and tort reform. Gotta love a guy that choses to take 40% of settlement awards. What a big heart this guy has. But hey, if you still want health care costs to continue to go up due to increasing malpractice insurance, then vote for Kerry/Edward
Funny, AARP is saying that, thanks to the medicare "reform" Bush pushed through, seniors are now suffering a hike in prescription drug prices 3 to 4 times that of inflation....

But it sure is comforting knowing that Bush/Cheney is there for the "little guy" doctors :rolleyes:

dmadman - about that picture :rotfl: That's hilarious :teeth:
 
Its amazing that in Texas, where there was a CRISIS.......med mal reform was promised to lower insurance rates. Recent reports say that has not happened, and in fact, the opposite has, rates have increased even with protection.


Wait, could it be that insurance companies for ages have written risks in order to get cash in, for their investment portfolios, where they were making money, claims costs included, but, now that investments are down, they need to raise rates. The real reason rates are high is not claims, it is a mismanagement of the insurance premium market, whereby the premiums now must bear a larger percentage of claim costs, whereas prior, investment income was able to handle it. As a result, if premiums would have been set to reflect actual claim costs, there would have been no spike in premiums in the last several years.
 
Although I won't be voting for the Kerry/Edwards ticket, I think Edwards was the wisest choice by far.
 
Originally posted by dmadman43
Do you deny that Kerry was on record as saying Edwards had not paid his dues.

That was then, this is now. Don't you know how politics works?


Here, perhaps this will help.

Here are some great quotes by John McCain on w:

"Governor Bush wants to give 38 percent of his tax cut to the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans ... My friends, I don't think Bill Gates needs a tax cut -- but I think you and your parents do."

"Mistakes happen in war that's why we try to avoid them. Mistakes have been made....One was the lack of sufficient troops there which allowed the looting to take place, which established kind of a lawless environment."

"Governor Bush's proposal has not one new penny for Social Security, not one penny for to pay down the debt, not one penny for Medicare. There's a difference there. He puts all the extra surplus into tax cuts. I don't think we need that. And by the way, 38 percent of his tax cuts goes to the wealthiest one percent of Americans. I don't think they need that. I think working families need that tax cut rather than the wealthiest."

"Governor Bush is one of the great polluters in history. Air quality in Texas has gone down."


And yet, now w is releasing an ad that has McCain supposedly very supportive of w. Go figure.
 
I applaud Kerry's choice. While I don't totally agree with everything John Edwards stands for, he does appear to be reasonable and intelligent which puts him light years ahead of many politicians.

JMO.
 


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