John Bolton out

[Missy1961]

OT here--but this is the first time ever that I've been quoted twice on a political thread! Thanks. I usually just read, but I had to respond to the post that I quoted.

 

[yeartolate]

Reluctantly I might add. The President was prepared to fight for him. he was tough, no nonsense and committed to representing this country in the un. its a shame to lose such a great public servant.

Reluctant? Yeah....because it is more of a sign that his political capital that he gained in his "mandate" of a second term election went out the window a long time ago.


Relectant? HEck yeah, because any appointment that is made now will have to be someone everyone can agree on.


Dawn, the reason that there is such intense Bush hatred now is because his power went unchecked for 6 years and he ran with it. If he had some self control and actually opened his ears and got advice he needed rather than attempts to justify things he was going to do anyway, the hatred would not be there. It would be just the regular partisan negativity that goes both ways.

 

[DawnCt1]

Reluctant? Yeah....because it is more of a sign that his political capital that he gained in his "mandate" of a second term election went out the window a long time ago.


Relectant? HEck yeah, because any appointment that is made now will have to be someone everyone can agree on.


Dawn, the reason that there is such intense Bush hatred now is because his power went unchecked for 6 years and he ran with it. If he had some self control and actually opened his ears and got advice he needed rather than attempts to justify things he was going to do anyway, the hatred would not be there. It would be just the regular partisan negativity that goes both ways.

Absolutely reluctantly. President Bush was prepared to fight for his appointment, but it was John Bolton's choice to leave. President Bush has not "run with unchecked power" whatever that means. John Bolton did a fine job at the UN and represented the best interests of the United States, which is his job btw.

 

[eclectics]

because any appointment that is made now will have to be someone everyone can agree on.

As it should be. It's not a cabinet job. This is a position that requires Senate confirmation for a permanent appointment.

 

[Mugg Mann]

i totally disagree. its just more carping from the 'i hate bush crowd'.

Is it John Bolton or President Bush that you don't believe is polarizing? Or both?

 

[TheDoctor]

Bolton is only serving currently as UN ambassador due to a recess appointment. Senator Harry Reid is planning the Senate calandar to keep bush from being able to appoint someone like bolton to a recess appointment for the upcoming term. http://www.suntimes.com/news/novak/157503,CST-EDT-novak03.article

Sen. Harry Reid, leading the Senate's new Democratic majority, is framing next year's schedule in a way that will make it difficult, if not impossible, for President Bush to give recess appointments to nominees blocked for confirmation.

Reid's schedule limits Senate recesses to one week. Recess appointments usually are made only when Congress has been out of session for at least 10 days. That may kill any consideration of trying to seat federal appeals court judges whose nominations had been stalled even in the Republican-controlled Senate. The downside may be a rebellion by senators if their breaks are held to one week.

The Senate under Flip Flop Frist and Trent Lott had frequent breaks longer than 10 days that allowed bush to make recess appointments. Now under new management in the Senate, bush will not be able to use the recess appointment trick.

 

[yeartolate]

Is it John Bolton or President Bush that you don't believe is polarizing? Or both?

Together they are bipolar.....

 

[TheDoctor]

Reluctantly I might add. The President was prepared to fight for him. he was tough, no nonsense and committed to representing this country in the un. its a shame to lose such a great public servant.

John Bolton did a fine job at the UN and represented the best interests of the United States, which is his job btw.

Bolton was a disaster from day one. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-schlesinger/mythologizing-bolton_b_35520.html

John Bolton has resigned as the US envoy to the UN and already the commentariat is trying to mythologize his record at the UN while simultaneously condemning Democrats and Republican liberals for daring to oppose him. As we say in TV land, let's go to the replay. John Bolton was a disaster as America's representative to the world body.

Before he went to the UN, he expressed open contempt for the body saying such things as it would not make any difference if you lopped ten stories off the UN building. Within a month of his recess appointment last summer 2005, he deliberately undermined and partly destroyed the greatest reform effort at the UN ever undertaken -- which would have restructured the organization and improved its operations in many different areas --by flooding the negotiation process with hundreds of gratuitous amendments that hampered any final settlement. He tried to drop any mention of the UN's most important mission -- the Millennium Development Goals -- from the reform package until his own boss, Secretary of State Rice, reversed him. His own antics over changes in the Human Rights Commission contributed to the creation of a defective new Human Rights Council. Meantime, he brought in antiabortion activists and National Rifle Association members to the US mission to promote their extreme causes at UN sessions.

According to continuing press reports, he bruised, battered and bewildered other UN diplomats with his rudeness and intemperate behavior. That he was even listed on the same roster as previous US ambassadors like Adlai Stevenson, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, and even Gorge H.W. Bush was an insult to our nation. We as a country should wish him good riddance.

Bolton had no chance of being confirmed once the Democrats took control of the Senate. The American voters have rejected bush's policies including the concept of having an idiot like Bolton representing the US before the UN.

 

[DawnCt1]

Bolton was a disaster from day one. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-schlesinger/mythologizing-bolton_b_35520.html
Bolton had no chance of being confirmed once the Democrats took control of the Senate. The American voters have rejected bush's policies including the concept of having an idiot like Bolton representing the US before the UN.

Do you have your own opinions or are you just happy to quote the disgruntled ex wife ariana huffington. who really takes her seriously.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

I recommend Chuck Norris. The first thing he needs to do is kick Kofi's hiney out of there.

Thank you, Mr. Bolton for your hard work.

The UN is serious about reforming itself?? That's the sickest joke since the Michael Jackson sleepovers.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Do you have your own opinions or are you just happy to quote the disgruntled ex wife ariana huffington. who really takes her seriously.

Only those who will cut & paste absolutely anything to bash our President and then call Bolton an "idiot."

 

[TheDoctor]

Do you have your own opinions or are you just happy to quote the disgruntled ex wife ariana huffington. who really takes her seriously.

You may want to take a look at the article. That is why I provided a link. Here is the bio of the author of the piece that you are confused about.

Stephen Schlesinger is the former Director of the World Policy Institute at the New School University in New York City (1997-2006). Mr. Schlesinger received his BA from Harvard University and his JD from Harvard Law School. In the early 1970s, he edited and published The New Democrat Magazine. Thereafter he spent four years as a staff writer at Time Magazine. For twelve years, he served as Governor Mario Cuomo’s speechwriter and foreign policy advisor. In the mid 1990s, he worked at the United Nations at Habitat, the agency dealing with global cities. He is the author of three books, including Act of Creation: The Founding of The United Nations for which he won the 2004 Harry S. Truman Book Award; Bitter Fruit: The Story of the U.S. Coup in Guatemala (with Stephen Kinzer), which was listed as a New York Times "Notable" book for 1982; and The New Reformers. He is a specialist on the foreign policy of the Clinton and Bush Administrations. He is a frequent contributor to magazines and newspapers, including The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, The Nation Magazine, and The New York Observer. In 1978, he was a finalist for the National Magazine Award. He has appeared on CNN, Fox TV, NPR and other media outlets.

 

[Stepharoonie!]

I seriously thought that when I opened this thread, I would be reading Michael Bolton was coming out of the closet...my poor eyes are playing tricks on me...

 

[TheDoctor]

Only those who will cut & paste absolutely anything to bash our President and then call Bolton an "idiot."

No. The people who are caling Bolton an idiot are those who are informed about the facts and give their information from sources other than drudge, the free republic and newsmax.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

No. The people who are caling Bolton an idiot are those who are informed about the facts and give their information from sources other than drudge, the free republic and newsmax.

I don't read any of those three.

I'd be rolling on the floor laughing too if I read the Huffington Post. It's only good for comedy and about as factual as Bagdad Bob.

 

[TheDoctor]

I love Lincoln Chaffe's quote about Bolton when he killed the consideration of Bolton by the current Senate. http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1565738,00.html

Chafee, who was defeated for reelection, issued a statement reiterating his opposition. "Mr. Bolton did not demonstrate the kind of collaborative approach that I believe will be called for if we are to restore the United States' position as the strongest country in a peaceful world," he said. "This would be an appropriate time to choose a nominee who has a proven ability to work with both sides of the political aisle, a history of building strong international relationships and a reputation of respect for the institution of the United Nations. The names Brent Scowcroft and George Mitchell come to mind immediately as outstanding candidates."

 

[LuvDuke]

I recommend Chuck Norris. The first thing he needs to do is kick Kofi's hiney out of there.

Thank you, Mr. Bolton for your hard work.

The UN is serious about reforming itself?? That's the sickest joke since the Michael Jackson sleepovers.

Maybe you can gather a posse among your 101st keyboard division and help Chuck along.

 

[richiebaseball]

Maybe you can gather a posse among your 101st keyboard division and help Chuck along.

There you go being incoherent again.

Let's get this straight, are you suggesting that only those that have combat experience have the moral authority to counsel military action? Doesn't making the decision to go to war require the same background and judgement as making the decision not to go to war? Are you advocating only combat veterans can be President? Senators? Congressmen? Are you advocating that only those that have served can have an opinion on war? Or only a pro-war opinion?

Or do you just continue to use it as a cheap slur?

 

[Uncle Remus]

The Terry Schiavo debacle merely confirmed my personal dislike of the man. I can't comment on his credentials because I don't live in Florida so I don't know what kind of Governor he has been. The only Bush I actually have any use for is Father Bush. He would make a wonderful Ambassador, but I'm sure it's far too strenuous at this stage of his life. The man deserves to pick and choose his activities.

Yeah, Daddy Bush would be great at this job,
but as you said he deserves to pick 'n choose
his activites now 'n shouldn't have to clean up
Baby's mess at this age.

 

[LuvDuke]

There you go being incoherent again.

Let's get this straight, are you suggesting that only those that have combat experience have the moral authority to counsel military action? Doesn't making the decision to go to war require the same background and judgement as making the decision not to go to war? Are you advocating only combat veterans can be President? Senators? Congressmen? Are you advocating that only those that have served can have an opinion on war? Or only a pro-war opinion?

Or do you just continue to use it as a cheap slur?

Nice to see you're back.