Jets trainer trips Miami player!

I believe he makes 150K. So 25K and suspended without pay for the rest of this year is a lot of beans.

He'll just work somewhere else in the meantime. I doubt the head strength coach for the Jets would have trouble finding employment.. he can work at a local college in the area possibly. He won't have any troubles, he'll be okay.
 
25k is beans to what he probably makes.. I'm sure he'd rather keep his job than keep the 25k.

Actually he is a training coach and makes much much less than any of the players, so I think 25k is probably a good chunk. Plus he loses all pay for the suspended games and any playoff games that they might have gone to.

I think this is a good punishment and hopefully he has learned a lesson and set an example for any other sideline personel that gets an impluse.
 
Interesting comments from former Dolphin Zach Thomas...

"They had to be ordered to stand there because they're foot to foot," Thomas said Tuesday on Miami radio station WQAM. "There's four of them, side to side -- five of them, I mean -- on the edge of the coaches' zone. They're only out there to restrict the space of the gunner.

"But there's more to it because I'm telling you, the only thing [Alosi] did wrong was intentionally put that knee out there. If he just stood there, there would never have been a problem, even if the guy got tripped. But there's more to this. He was ordered to stand there. No one is foot to foot on the sideline in the coaches' box."

Actually, it was a six-man line, starting with Alosi and defensive lineman Marcus Dixon (inactive). It's believed the other four also were inactive players. They were in a tight formation, almost like soccer players preparing to defend a direct kick. Their toes were right up against the boundary, with Alosi positioned in the corner of the coaches' box.

Coincidence? When Carroll approached at full speed, not one of them flinched, suggesting it was a show of force that appeared to be orchestrated. Alosi and Jets officials denied that, claiming they don't coach that tactic -- an unsavory technique that is semi-prevalent around the league.

Everybody knows what happened next: Alosi infamously extended his left knee as Carroll ran by on a punt, causing the Miami rookie to fall on his face -- an "irresponsible" act (Alosi's word) that resulted in him being suspended without pay for the rest of the season and fined $25,000 by the Jets.

A close examination of the TV replay shows that Dixon was leaning in with his left shoulder, perhaps preparing for contact as well.

"Something is fishy," said an opposing personnel executive, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

The executive said the Jets have shown a penchant in recent weeks for using sideline personnel as a deterrent to gunners -- players sprinting the sideline in an attempt to get to the returner quickly -- adding that the Jets' sideline is conspicuously clear when their team is doing the punting.

One punt before the Carroll trip, Alosi and four others were lined up in a similar fashion. On that play, Dolphins gunner Reshad Jones came barreling into the sideline area. Because he didn't return immediately to the field, he was penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct. Even though they benefited from the penalty, the Jets responded as if their turf had been invaded.

"It was kind of curious," said a former longtime NFL special-teams coach. "I mean, they had a bunch of guys lined up. It was unusual to say the least. If somebody ordered that, I'd be [ticked] off if I were Sal."

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5919573
 
Very interesting london. Zach Thomas is pretty sincere so I believe the source.
I guess the frustration of watching the play-offs slip away..trying to hang on to the Wild card, whatever, still a low class move and the fact that it may be from the higher ups of the Jets organization sadly does not shock me at all.
 

"There's four of them, side to side -- five of them, I mean -- on the edge of the coaches' zone. They're only out there to restrict the space of the gunner.
My thought is "Big Deal!" The coaches have a perfect right to stand there.... in any manner they like. It's their "zone". If they go outside of it during play they can be called for a penalty. The zone is, IIRC, at least five feet out of bounds. That should be plenty of clearance for a player running down the field.
 
My thought is "Big Deal!" The coaches have a perfect right to stand there.... in any manner they like. It's their "zone". If they go outside of it during play they can be called for a penalty. The zone is, IIRC, at least five feet out of bounds. That should be plenty of clearance for a player running down the field.

So if it isn't a "big deal" why would they deny it? I understand they have the right to stand there... is it considered unsavory to do so? Low Class? Desperate?
 
it's official, the jets are cheaters. Pats are going to the superbowl
 
Fired is the first step.

Leveling a fine on the guy is the second step.

Banning him from the league is the third step.

What a jackwagon.

I am late joining this thread, but I agree with jen0610 completely! :thumbsup2 :thumbsup2 :thumbsup2

I saw the reports that he had been fined. I hope he is let got after this season.
 
I will be horrified if this guy isn't fired. He clearly does not possess the judgment, self-control, and sense of sportsmanship one needs to represent an NFL team.

I know plenty of dirty stuff happens every day and most of it isn't caught on video. But if you DO happen to catch it, it needs to be swiftly and severely punished.

What kind of message does keeping him send? To the fans? To the players? To anyone else contemplating playing a little dirty?

He could have ended that kid's career, not to mention left him with a life of pain, disability, and medical bills. Carroll signed on to take hits on the field within the rules of the NFL. He never agreed to have to watch out for the sideline as well.

::yes:: ::yes:: ::yes::
 
So if it isn't a "big deal" why would they deny it? I understand they have the right to stand there... is it considered unsavory to do so? Low Class? Desperate?
I'd say "petty" at worst. I don't think most people would be eager to cop to petty behavior. But at the same time, it's just part of the "gamesmanship" that can be found throughout the sport (not unlike "accidentally" banging shoulders with an opposing player as you walk back to your huddle after a play) . It's not some scandal like the posted article attempts to paint it.
 
My thought is "Big Deal!" The coaches have a perfect right to stand there.... in any manner they like. It's their "zone". If they go outside of it during play they can be called for a penalty. The zone is, IIRC, at least five feet out of bounds. That should be plenty of clearance for a player running down the field.

True, but on most teams, the training coach, which he is, is usually called the "get back" coach. He is supposed to make sure and get people to "get back". The fact that not one of them flinched , not even a little bit, is just , if not dirty, suspect. They were like a wall LOL!

The guys didnt have to move, but really? Not moving just showed they have no concern for other players safety. He was out of bounds already! I can see it from players, but from coaches? Nah, its just not cool.
 
True, but on most teams, the training coach, which he is, is usually called the "get back" coach. He is supposed to make sure and get people to "get back". The fact that not one of them flinched , not even a little bit, is just , if not dirty, suspect. They were like a wall LOL!

The guys didnt have to move, but really? Not moving just showed they have no concern for other players safety. He was out of bounds already! I can see it from players, but from coaches? Nah, its just not cool.

A "wall" of guys in sweats are going to end up getting more hurt by a guy running full speed or getting tackeled into them wearing full pads and helmets. They are out of bounds, not on the field, so having them stand in the coaches box in not illegal, cheating or anything else but allowed. They can stand holding hands, linking arms and singing jingle bells if they want to, it is allowed, legal and done by every team in the NFL.

Many posters are calling the Jets cheaters for doing something that is legal and standard practice, yet have we all forgotten the teams who were caught and disciplined for videotaping other teams practices....hmm I think one of the teams caught were the Pats:rolleyes1 :rotfl:
 
A "wall" of guys in sweats are going to end up getting more hurt by a guy running full speed or getting tackeled into them wearing full pads and helmets. They are out of bounds, not on the field, so having them stand in the coaches box in not illegal, cheating or anything else but allowed. They can stand holding hands, linking arms and singing jingle bells if they want to, it is allowed, legal and done by every team in the NFL.

Many posters are calling the Jets cheaters for doing something that is legal and standard practice, yet have we all forgotten the teams who were caught and disciplined for videotaping other teams practices....hmm I think one of the teams caught were the Pats:rolleyes1 :rotfl:

:thumbsup2
 
A "wall" of guys in sweats are going to end up getting more hurt by a guy running full speed or getting tackeled into them wearing full pads and helmets. They are out of bounds, not on the field, so having them stand in the coaches box in not illegal, cheating or anything else but allowed. They can stand holding hands, linking arms and singing jingle bells if they want to, it is allowed, legal and done by every team in the NFL.

Many posters are calling the Jets cheaters for doing something that is legal and standard practice, yet have we all forgotten the teams who were caught and disciplined for videotaping other teams practices....hmm I think one of the teams caught were the Pats:rolleyes1 :rotfl:

Again, completely legal what they were doing, but then again, the NFL is investigating, NOT the jets but the practice. Like I said, they were doing what was in their right, but it , what's the word I want to use. . .fishy
 
Again, completely legal what they were doing, but then again, the NFL is investigating, NOT the jets but the practice. Like I said, they were doing what was in their right, but it , what's the word I want to use. . .fishy
But the term "investigating" is pretty much meaningless without any context. "Investigating" for what purpose? To make it sound like they care? To look at issuing a rule that no more than two coaches can stand side-by-side at the front-end of their own box? To possibly fine the Jets? To see if the Jets ordered the coach to trip the player? What???
 
Looks like this guy put more thought into this than we thought. Maybe he should lose his career in sports. Man, I hate it when I am wrong. :headache: ;)
 
Looks like this guy put more thought into this than we thought. Maybe he should lose his career in sports. Man, I hate it when I am wrong. :headache: ;)
I will say that it certainly looks a lot less likely that the trip was just a spontaneous thoughtless act.
 




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