I've Been Vaccinated (No Politics Please)

[damo]

I’m following Vacine Hunters on Twitter.. there were six pharmacy locations here in Durham Region posted early this morning (2 Ajax, 1 Whitby, and 3 Pickering) mostly Shoppers Drug Mart’s. My Sis opted to go into Scarborough yesterday for hers.

It is really weird that the pharmacy didn't have enough people to notify on their list that they actually had room for walk-ins who saw them on Twitter.

 

[OnceUponATime15]

I know our parents are going to be given a date to commit to in school or online learning for Sept 2021 /2022 school year.
Date to be announced soon. (July maybe).

ALL staff were just informed last Friday that we will be expected to perform our duties from an in school board location.
P.D.S.B.
Hugs
Mel

Durham Region parents with the DDSB had to confirm their intent two weeks ago. The board then announced that there will be a “grace” week in August for anyone wanting to make a switch. Once that week is done, the decision is irrevocable.

 

[OnceUponATime15]

It is really weird that the pharmacy didn't have enough people to notify on their list that they actually had room for walk-ins who saw them on Twitter.

The push has been insane out here with a dozen or so pop up clinics daily in addition to the pharmacies and public health mass vaccination clinics. The majority of Ajax & Pickering were encompassed in hot spot postal codes.

The pharmacy offerings this morning were anywhere from 18 shots up to 40:shots per location, available until they ran out

 

[damo]

The push has been insane out here with a dozen or so pop up clinics daily in addition to the pharmacies and public health mass vaccination clinics. The majority of Ajax & Pickering were encompassed in hot spot postal codes.

The pharmacy offerings this morning were anywhere from 18 shots up to 40:shots per location, available until they ran out

Ya, but my point was that you would think that those AZ second shots would have been reserved for people who got the AZ shot between March 10-19 and they would have been notified. I'm surprised that there were enough extras (after the supposed notification) for walk-ins.

 

[ellbell]

but, why would this be a problem? isn’t this just one way to incentivize people to get their second shots?

I'm just saying it shouldn't matter if they are going back to in person schooling or not

 

[OnceUponATime15]

Booking acceleration day for Mom’s #2 Moderna vaccine. Couldn’t get through until ninety minutes after booking opened.

Sat on hold for 30ish minutes (no problem) to be redirected to the team handling Moderna appointments... because Moderna is in such short supply it gets its own booking team. Had to leave a message, now waiting on a call back.

Mom has a second appointment already booked, we would have been ok to wait the remaining five weeks, we are booking an accelerated appointment though to be certain of her receiving Moderna and figured that with the short supply if they could do a guaranteed booking for it we would give it a try.

 

[Pumpkin1172]

Breaking news just now on CP24.. Health Canada has extended the expiration date of the AZ shots on hand to July 1st 2021.
No word on how that decision was arrived at.

But I agree, the government is not making me feel confident that it's got MY best interests in mind. Really bad optics here.

This is really poor and irresponsible management of the process. I think I would just rather take my chances with a second dose of Pfizer now.

I feel all of this. Our government was desperate to get the vaccine into our arms, so they pressed and sent messaging that we just need to do our part and get our shot, no matter which was offered.
FIRST...they weren't sure about having enough vaccine for those who got the AZ. Then the talk of mixing vaccines. Ok...fine...I don't really have much choice if that's all that we have.

THEN...more shipments in big numbers finally starts to arrive about 2 -3 weeks after all of us Generation X run out and get " what we can" and then the younger populations are able to get theirs now. And those of us who received that shot of the AZ wondering if we would have some of the side effects that we could have avoided, could have had a different vaccine.

NOW....Those of us Generation X that ran out and received our first shot out of desperation to hopefully get the ball rolling to get this virus under some type of control (because we are soooooo done with the stress of working in higher positions in covid, still have kids at home/in university, older parents and if we are lucky even older grandparents) are now being told... we are extending the shelf life/expiry date of the vaccine you received. Even though we are pretty sure that it will have the same efficacy, and it's only a few weeks past it's expiry, we think it's still " good " for you to use

I'm sorry, I have tried to keep an open mind about this and try to remain positive about it, but this had done nothing but make me angrier and frustrated with our government officials. They have flipped and flopped on every single thing since DAY 1 that this virus had been first reported. It is a complete mess and total circus of information.

This is not a piece of food or medication where we know the efficacy of it's shelf life. Chances are it's fine. I'm tired, and completely done with all this now. This was the straw that broke the camels back for me.

 

[samsteele]

It is a complete mess and total circus of information.

Completely agree. The messaging has been appalling. Its as if they lined up the nerdiest and least people smart scientists in the country and had them 'pronounce' on this. Oh, in like 3 words to the effect of 'it's all good."

I had the same reaction when I first heard the news that the expiring AZ was now fine for another month. But then I watched a recent interview with Dr. Isaac Bogoch - on Ontario's vaccination round table - and had a rethink. I can't find the link for the interview but pretty sure it was CTV this past Sunday. He provided some badly needed information including that both NACI and the manufacturer reviewed the data and concluded that it was safe and effective to extend the expiry date for one month. He agreed that the lack of explanation by NACI was very poor. I'll take it a step further and say the optics are horrible and it feeds not just vaccine hesitancy but deep mistrust of the vaccination campaign. But after watching that interview, I'd take it as my 2nd shot. I'm not eligible yet because my first AZ shot was in mid April. But the way this is rolling, I may also be lining up for previously expired AZ. If it's any consolation, I'm pretty sure the science teams at all levels of gov't don't have the people smarts or communication skills to mislead anyone. They appear to be truly tunnel visioned lab rats in every sense of the word. And for anyone who is worried about big conspiracies or being misled, that's weirdly comforting.

 

[bababear_50]

Dr Bogoch

Why did health officials change the expiry date of AstraZeneca vaccines?
So we could have an answer from NACI by Thursday but maybe even sooner in regards to mixing Vaccine types.


https://www.msn.com/en-ca/video/new...razeneca-vaccines/vi-AAKzsgI?ocid=mailsignout

 

[Pumpkin1172]

I had the same reaction when I first heard the news that the expiring AZ was now fine for another month. But then I watched a recent interview with Dr. Isaac Bogoch - on Ontario's vaccination round table - and had a rethink. I can't find the link for the interview but pretty sure it was CTV this past Sunday. He provided some badly needed information including that both NACI and the manufacturer reviewed the data and concluded that it was safe and effective to extend the expiry date for one month. He agreed that the lack of explanation by NACI was very poor. I'll take it a step further and say the optics are horrible and it feeds not just vaccine hesitancy but deep mistrust of the vaccination campaign. But after watching that interview, I'd take it as my 2nd shot. I'm not eligible yet because my first AZ shot was in mid April. But the way this is rolling, I may also be lining up for previously expired AZ. If it's any consolation, I'm pretty sure the science teams at all levels of gov't don't have the people smarts or communication skills to mislead anyone. They appear to be truly tunnel visioned lab rats in every sense of the word. And for anyone who is worried about big conspiracies or being misled, that's weirdly comforting.

I did read that. Someone else had posted it earlier or in a different thread.

It still doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling about it. It just reaffirms that they really have ZERO plans other than to get as many vaccinations into as many people as we can as fast as we can.

I believe the ball has been dropped sooooooooooo many times during the past 15+ months. They are desperate as they know that Canadians in general are tired and not going to follow restrictions for much long. So they need to get as many people vaccinated as they can, as fast as they can. We are patient people to a point, but officials know that they are loosing power over the population now.

 

[bababear_50]

COVID-19: Manitobans who received AstraZeneca shot can get Pfizer, Moderna for 2nd dose

Health officials in Manitoba now say those who received the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine for their first dose can get either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine for their second shot.
In a release Monday the province said anyone who received a first shot of any vaccine on or before April 8 is now eligible to book for their second shot.
Those who got the AstraZeneca vaccine can get any mRNA vaccine, provided they meet provincial eligibility criteria, including that they got their first shot a minimum of 28 days previously.


https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/me...d-dose/ar-AAKzqkL?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAggNb9

 

[OnceUponATime15]

***Update***
Well... as directed this morning I left a detailed voicemail message for the “Moderna team” here at public health in order to find out if there was any availability left for Mom to receive Moderna as her second shot. Message was left at 10:30am. It is now 3pm and no call back yet.
In the mean time the Region has stated that booking online for second doses for people 80 and up (Mom is just shy of her 93rd birthday) will go live sometime this evening.

Im sure that the call center has had a crazy day with the roll out of 2nd booking appointments, I’m still hoping for a call back, guardedly - also relieved that I will be able to book Mom myself later tonight if need be. Availability willing...

 

[samsteele]

Another issue with the extended AZ vaccine expiry date is the impact on COVID travel passports. Does this extension change the expiry date that shows up on our proof of vaccine certificate? Who knows. And what will show on our eventual vaccine passport? In the wind.

Watched another interview today on either CTV or CBC and the suggestion from the vaccine expert was that this decision by NACI is a precedent that will be repeated for other vaccines.

Also caught up on my Dr. John Campbell vlogs and the new Vietnam variant combines the worst of both the Indian and UK variants. Think the summer will be more difficult than we hoped. Unless Canada is prepared to close all airports and borders, then it is a race to get the 2nd shot.

 

[OnceUponATime15]

Success!!

No call back from the Moderna team today. But... I was catching up on Twitter just before 6pm and lo & behold there was a tweet from Durham public health at 5:18pm this evening with the notification that the online booking for second dose vaccinations was now live! Within 5 minutes I had Mom booked and confirmed for this Saturday morning for her #2 Moderna vaccination.
I could have booked her for as soon as tomorrow and for almost anytime this week, there was lots of availability... I chose Saturday so I wouldn’t need to book anymore days off work this week.
I’m both happy and relieved to have the appointment!

 

[pigletto]

My DS16 just got his first shot of Pfizer
I’m feeling pretty darn grateful .

 

[pigletto]

My DS16 just got his first shot of Pfizer
I’m feeling pretty darn grateful .

So grateful I forgot that he’s actually 17

 

[Madame]

HC will ok mixing doses according to CBC.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/cana...nes-astrazeneca-pfizer-moderna-naci-1.6048152

 

[damo]

HC will ok mixing doses according to CBC.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/cana...nes-astrazeneca-pfizer-moderna-naci-1.6048152

Good news and no mention of having to get two more shots after AZ. And no surprise that Pfizer and Moderna are interchangeable.

 

[quandrea]

Good news and no mention of having to get two more shots after AZ. And no surprise that Pfizer and Moderna are interchangeable.

Agreed. I’d been worrying about needing two mRNA vaccines.

 

[azrivest]

What's the difference between "at least one dose" and "partially vaccinated"? I didn't think there were any 1-dose vaccines being given out in Canada:

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccination-coverage/