It's Gods punishment?

[cteddiesgirl]

LOL! I never thought of that before!

See, as a Christian I don't see that as an insult (and I know you didn't mean that as an insult), but I bet some do find that insulting, although I wouldn't know why. To me it's something to think about. But then again, I never believed the "Satan is amongst us" stuff. Evil is amongst us, there's no doubt about that, the Ted Bundys of the world prove it, but I don't believe in the "Satan V God" stuff. I don't believe a lot of the stuff I'm supposed to believe. I'm a selective Christian I guess.

I'm the same way. I don't believe that there is a devil. He was invented by a pagan religion and brought into the Christian religion as a way to scare people into believing.

 

[jenfur]

Maybe the focus should be on the thousands and thousands of Christians who are on the ground, HELPING PEOPLE and not on a few who are spouting off to pass judgement.

Christians are not the only religious groups calling this judgement against the US.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/05/front2453615.183333333.html

 

[bajanswife]

Now here is my take on this subject....

In nature there are many set patterns that are part of the natural world that were instilled on earth to run when certain variables come into play. Like bad storms when the waters get warm....frontal boundries that cause tornados when the conditions are right.... When the plates of the earth move we get earth quakes and so forth. We as humans choose to live in places that have these naturaly occuring things. They are not(in my estimation) sent to cleanse the population because of "bad" people, or evil places....it is just part of the natural order of things. SO if we live where there are risks associated to nature we have to realize this and do the best we can in those areas or find some where else to live. It is just the randomness of nature....not a devine plan to punish people.

That's my take too.

Even if I believe that there is a higher power who created the universe (and I'm not sure about that yet ), I don't believe there is any higher power manipulating and micro-managing the earth on a frequent basis, and deciding where natural disasters will occur. I think the earth works a certain way according to a bunch of basic principles (just like our bodies do), and that natural events like hurricanes develop when the factors are favorable - not by some divine intervention.

I will dare to say this: I have no desire to believe in a God who micro-manages to that extent. If I turn out to be wrong, so be it. I will deal with that when the time comes!

 

[eeyore kelly]

So if hurricanes are a punishment from God, why does He hate Florida?

They get more hurricanes that any other state.

 

[Aurora63]

I think God sends us these kinds of challenges to strengthen us. Help us to grow. That which does not kill us makes us stronger, you know? That's all.

 

[DisDuck]

I wanted to respond on this thread to see if there would be more than 1 poster on G-D in some way for some reason caused Katrina. Since that has happened here it goes.

Did G-D send the holocaust as a challenge to strenghen us? How did it make 'us' grow?


Hurricanes are a natural phenomena caused by the Earth's rotation coupled with ocean evaporation creating clouds and wind. Nothing 'supernatural' about it.

 

[Aurora63]

I wanted to respond on this thread to see if there would be more than 1 poster on G-D in some way for some reason caused Katrina. Since that has happened here it goes.

Did G-D send the holocaust as a challenge to strenghen us? How did it make 'us' grow?


Hurricanes are a natural phenomena caused by the Earth's rotation coupled with ocean evaporation creating clouds and wind. Nothing 'supernatural' about it.

My opinion was not offered to offend you, sorry if it did. Only offering an opinion.

 

[DisDuck]

I understand that you were not trying to offend but when G-D is mentioned as 'causing' things to happen it is almost always couched in terms of a 'challenge'. As a test of 'our' faith. To me this begs the question, why does G-D need to test 'our' faith. Tell my in-laws who spent their youth in a camp that this was just an exercise in 'faith' including losing all their family.
Is anyone more 'faithful' because 6 million are dead?

Disaster's happen; some people are evil. There is no need to involve some kind of 'supreme being' in this equation.

 

[Aurora63]

I understand that you were not trying to offend but when G-D is mentioned as 'causing' things to happen it is almost always couched in terms of a 'challenge'. As a test of 'our' faith. To me this begs the question, why does G-D need to test 'our' faith. Tell my in-laws who spent their youth in a camp that this was just an exercise in 'faith' including losing all their family.
Is anyone more 'faithful' because 6 million are dead?

Disaster's happen; some people are evil. There is no need to involve some kind of 'supreme being' in this equation.

I'm not sure how to respond, except to say that no one deserves the suffering your in-laws experienced, or what the people affected by Katrina are experiencing. But it happens, and some of us are comforted to believe that God is in control, for an ultimate greater good. If you think it is all random, that is fine. I'm not here to open a debate, or to try to have the last word. That's all.

 

[totalia]

I agree DisDuck. Very very much.

 

[roger_ramjet]

Good on you for taking it up to those nutters in your family. One day they'll get the message, as will the rest of them (well, we can hope).

 

[chadfromdallas]

I'm not sure how to respond, except to say that no one deserves the suffering your in-laws experienced, or what the people affected by Katrina are experiencing. But it happens, and some of us are comforted to believe that God is in control, for an ultimate greater good. If you think it is all random, that is fine. I'm not here to open a debate, or to try to have the last word. That's all.

Gotta love a god that drowns out thousands of people....ohhhhh so comforting...... What good could come from a dang category 5 hurricane? More debt for the US?


Good grief...

 

[jenfur]

Disaster's happen; some people are evil. There is no need to involve some kind of 'supreme being' in this equation.

I agree with that, disaster's happen and people are evil. The supreme being is who gives some of us the insight and strength to get through those instances.

 

[mamaprincess]

Gotta love a god that drowns out thousands of people....ohhhhh so comforting...... What good could come from a dang category 5 hurricane? More debt for the US?


Good grief...

Chad, I haven't always agreed with your opinions but you are always good natured and good humored about the way you present them. Thanks for being that way.

 

[Grand2me]

No, no, no! It is a BLESSING from God! This is the way all of those people will be delivered from poverty and despair! The future is perfect!

At least that's what the pastor around here was telling the evacuees.

Please tell me that you are being sarcastic...