It's a smaller world -- Disney sells more land

[mrsR123]

malls have these things called 'stores'. they're individual and pretty much all sell different and varied items.

WDW's mall has different stores but they sell the exact, same merchandise. it's not imagineering, it's marketeering.

Let us not forget the accountaneers-- after all this is a business that has to make business decisions. And don't worry, there'll be plenty of variety out at Downtown Disney as soon as they finish leasing it out.

 

[raidermatt]

Disney is/was a company that needs to make financial decisions.

How about we put this one to rest?

You can replace Disney with the name of every company ever launched, and your statement remains true.

The question, however, is whether Disney is making the optimal decisions.

Clearly there is significant disagreement over that issue, and not just among the complainers and pixie dusters on this board.

 

[MJMcBride]

Thats tears it. You three are kicked out of the congregation. To atone, you must watch the Little Mermaid three times and ride the Matterhorn twice.

 

[mjstaceyuofm]

For clarity's sake - Disney is selling Reedy Creek land and WDW land. I still don't like it for this reason:

Horizon West is a 23,000-acre planned community stretching for miles in west Orange County. When built out, over several decades, it could house 30,000 people, plus a large commercial center. The Disney and Reedy Creek parcels now for sale already are included in the community's "village D" area, Maxwell said.

Doesn't this disturb anyone? Our beloved WDW is roughly 30,000 acres and this "development" is nearly 23,000 acres. That's huge. I don't like it in the slightest. Part of the beauty of WDW used to be the fact that it was this oasis in the middle of swamp land.

I guess you can't stop progress.

 

[dbm20th]

Clearly there is significant disagreement over that issue, and not just among the complainers and pixie dusters on this board.

If you are going to call the non-complainers "pixie dusters", don't you think you should call the complainers something more fun? I mean, they deserve it don't you think?

 

[Ted and Holly]

It is a lot of land, but it is pretty far from "everything". There is still plenty of land to do a lot of dreaming.

Here is where this land is. See Seidel Road on the left.

 

[All Aboard]

If you are going to call the non-complainers "pixie dusters", don't you think you should call the complainers something more fun? I mean, they deserve it don't you think?

They have a name, "The Element"

 

[MJMcBride]

They have a name, "The Element"

I like "The Complainers" better.

 

[Another Voice]

Our real name is "People Who Haven't Lowered Their Expectations".

 

[MJMcBride]

Our real name is "People Who Haven't Lowered Their Expectations".

Nope. I still like "The Complainers" better.

I just think its fits better and rolls off the tongue.

 

[Another Voice]

You really want to call Bob Iger and John Lasseter "complainers"? Their comments are a lot closer to The Element's than they are to those "fans" who accepted whatever Disney stuck the brand on.

 

[MJMcBride]

You really want to call Bob Iger and John Lasseter "complainers"? Their comments are a lot closer to The Element's than they are to those "fans" who accepted whatever Disney stuck the brand on.

I don't view Lasseter and Iger as part of the "Complainers" They are realistic and fair. Some of what Disney has done in the past 10-15 years has sucked, no doubt. I agree the percentage of suckiness to greatness has increased in recent years. But the "Complainers" cannot admit that anything built or done by Disney is the last decade plus is great. I strongly disagree with that notion. Some not all that has come to the parks and stuff has been great.

 

[dbm20th]

You really want to call Bob Iger and John Lasseter "complainers"? Their comments are a lot closer to The Element's than they are to those "fans" who accepted whatever Disney stuck the brand on.

You claim them for the Complainers, I claim them for the Pixie Dusters, especially Iger. Sounds like a good formula to me.

 

[DisneyMommyMichelle]

pixie duster checking in here

 

[All Aboard]

"I was at the opening of Hong Kong Disneyland and standing with a few thousand other people watching the parade go by and I realized that there wasn't a character in the parade that had come from a Disney animated film in the last 10 years except for Pixar," Iger said. "It really hit me hard that we had had 10 years of real failure in many respects in the business that I believe was the most vital to us."

This is kinda what the folks on this boards have been saying for the past 7 years.

 

[MJMcBride]

I don't disagree that the animated films have been disappointing. No doubt (although I kind of liked Chicken Little). But I think they have done some great things at the parks in recent years. I don't believe imagineering has been as awful as some.

 

[cxcelica]

There is some truth to that statement however, Animation is really taken a backburner in movies in general in the last decade. Just look at all the CGI movies that have come out this year alone. To say other than Pixar characters there have been no new characters, well Pixar has created a huge amount of new characters, so its really a silly statement in that sense.

And I think it is obivous that statement was a jab right at Eisner, so I would not get to wound up over it.

That being said there are alot of things which Iger can fix with Disney. He should stop worrying about the fued with Eisner and blaming things on him and get to fixing.

 

[flatline]

the company that pioneered and perfected the art of storytelling has lost their focus and originality. the last popular character they've created was Stitch, and he's worn out his welcome. Disney seems to be content to sit back and let Pixar handle the chore.

 

[Another Voice]

I don't believe imagineering has been as awful as some.

Visit California Adventure.

 

[MJMcBride]

Visit California Adventure.

I'll say it again. I agree more stuff has sucked than it has in the past. But some stuff has been great.