Is this the new protocol on Ebay?

JunieJay said:
Because I have completed my part of the bargain by paying them, and I should be left feedback first. I don't agree that as a buyer my obligation is to be satisfied with the item. My obligation is to pay for the item.

Feedback is optional, there is no rule that says the seller has to give feedback first, or even at all.

Again, if you are happy with the item and since receiving feedback is obviously important to you, I just don't see what the big deal about leaving feedback first.
 
I've been ebaying since 2000, much more the buyer than the seller. When I started, sellers used to leave FB as soon as they got payment. When I started selling, I did the same. Then I sold a baseball card for $175. I shipped it carefully (in a toploader & in a bubble envelope), left feedback, then the buyer got it & complained it was bent (which I knew was a lie, but I couldn't prove it). I had to give him a $25 refund. Then there was the time 2 people get in a bidding war over a card, and the winner over paid for it. He must have had buyers remorse, wanted some of the money back & held my feedback hostage. So again, I had to give a refund just so I could get positive feedback. So when sell (which isn't often anymore), I wait. I know it stinks for the majority of buyers who are honest, but the scammers are ruining it for the rest of us. I heard something (don't know if it's true), that there are books out there teaching people how to get refunds by complaining.
 
Who would need a book? If the seller has left feedback for the buyer it's quite easy for the buyer to claim the item was late, damaged, or never came.

After being scammed by this I finally had to realize that the only surprise is that it didn't happen earlier. There is nothing to stop people from leaving negative feedback even if there was nothing wrong. It's why I stopped using ebay as a seller.
 
cardaway said:
Who would need a book? If the seller has left feedback for the buyer it's quite easy for the buyer to claim the item was late, damaged, or never came.

After being scammed by this I finally had to realize that the only surprise is that it didn't happen earlier. There is nothing to stop people from leaving negative feedback even if there was nothing wrong. It's why I stopped using ebay as a seller.
I understand with what you are saying. And have heard the horror stories and have had one or two bad experiences.

But, I have decided I have enough positive feedback that I refuse to allow the threat of bad feedback to get in the way of something that is for the most part, at least at this point, a positive experience.

If I get a negative, I will post a response to it and be done with it. If that causes a buyer to not bid on my items, ins spite of the thousand other very positive feedbacks, oh well.

The Ebay experience is not just being ruined by scammers, but also by people who are not even looking at the feedback before bidding, not paying attention to the feedback of those who have bid on your items and those living in fear of bad feedback and will do anything to avoid it.

I refuse to do that. Feedback isn't just numbers, people need to actually look at what is contained OVERALL in the feedback, ie "Good communication, item better than described, great packing, quick shipping"

Just my thoughts...
 



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