Is this how "bashing" first begins?

[kimberh]

Some people just like to argue! They argue at home, they argue at work, they argue on a Internet Board. I really appreciate the factual information, the bashing, I skim over, I can't read all that stuff. We are all different, we have different tastes.

 

[UConnJack]

Of course some just bash and make comments to stir the pot and get a rise out of others. Personally I feel sorry for that type of poster, it seems they are so immature.

I partially agree, but I don't think stirring the pot is necessarily a bad thing, within reason of course!

 

[spiceycat]

maybe some members bash the resorts to help talk them out of adding on.....

I always felt it was jealous.

because with each resort DVC has done something a little different. Upgraded each new DVC resort in some ways.

so here is hoping that CRV (if done) will have free internet! Don't know if AKV will or not?

 

[UConnJack]

Some people just like to argue! They argue at home, they argue at work, they argue on a Internet Board. I really appreciate the factual information, the bashing, I skim over, I can't read all that stuff. We are all different, we have different tastes.

Count me as one of those argue'ers! I was raised in a family where everything was open for debate, everyone played devil's advocate sometimes, and volume sometimes won over substance! Always interesting at the holiday's. everyone was always respectful, however, and never held any bad blood.

There is a difference between argueing and debate, of course, although the line can get thin sometimes. I don't think there is anything wrong with discussing each other's likes and dislikes about particular resorts, I don't consider it bashing unless the person is irrational, imature, rude, or has a devious hidden agenda in promoting their opinion.

 

[starbox]

I also think that it's hard to judge a resort until it is complete. SSR was an ugly baby and an awkard teenager. But, now that it is complete, I think it's quite lovely and it is my favorite WDW-area DVC so far.

BTW - my DD8 was the ugliest baby I've ever seen and I'll be the first to admit it - I almost changed her name in the hospital because I gave her a "pretty girl's name" and I thought perhaps she needed something more spunky. Thankfully, the wizened old man "Mr. Magoo" stage did not last.

 

[UConnJack]

BTW - my DD8 was the ugliest baby I've ever seen and I'll be the first to admit it - I almost changed her name in the hospital because I gave her a "pretty girl's name" and I thought perhaps she needed something more spunky. Thankfully, the wizened old man "Mr. Magoo" stage did not last.

We nicknamed our daughter Gollum and Yoda! Elf ears and no hair until she was 1 1/2 yrs old. Hence the my avatar picture!

Cute as a button now though, and a personality like none I've seen!

 

[Dean]

Frankly I think there's little bashing that actually goes on but a whole lot of over sensitive people. One can hate everything about a resort and say so and that does not make it bashing. For the most part I'd only say it's bashing if profanity is used or it things are told that are simply factually wrong. For example, saying that all those extra SSR points has a negative impact on the system is not SSR bashing nor bashing the owners there, it may be bashing DVD and DVC.

 

[Olaf]

Frankly I think there's little bashing that actually goes on but a whole lot of over sensitive people.

Amen.

Just because someone doesn't like a particular resort and comes on the board and posts their opinion doesn't make it bashing. We're individuals, we're entitled to our opinions. I find the attacks on people who do post their opinions to be far more offensive than any negative comments about a resort.

 

[PamOKW]

Of course every time a new resort opens, people are only buying points at that resort to destroy the vacation plans of every other DVC member --- they'll never stay where they bought and "I'll" never be able to book my fabulous home resort. ;-)

Disney seems to have this figured out and is able to fold each resort into the system without destroying the system.

 

[eliza61]

Actually I don't see a lot of bashing on the DVC forum. I use to read thru the trip planning forum, man talk about complaining! It was getting depressing, every thing from "I actually had wait 10 minutes at the end of the night for a resort bus" to "it's my birthday and they didn't do any thing spectacular for free to me"
There is even the "DVC'ers think their so special" complaint.

Any thing here is much nicer

 

[LisaS]

expect it to start in Sept - when the first DVC members come back and report on their visit.

I agree and I think some of it will be due to the lack of information from Disney on the differences between the villas in Jambo House and Kidani Villlage. The model rooms and the published floor plans are for the Kidani Village villas (with the exception of the floor plan for the GV which is for the one in Jambo House). I think some people are going to be surprised this summer/fall when they open the door to their villa and see something quite different from what they were expecting.

 

[rocketriter]

Bashing does exist, just as flaming exists on other boards. During the BCV-bash phase, I remember one poster who would seize on any complaint about the resort to announce that BCV was terribly run, a bad investment and a disgrace to DVC. That was bashing. My recollection is that this individual had never stayed at BCV and, when finally invited to, eased off a bit.

 

[crisi]

I don't think the negative comments end when a new resort opens either, but you hear them louder when a resort is being actively sold because people here encourage "buy where you want to stay." So if you come here saying "should I buy AKL, oh what should I do?" Someone will come on with their opinion (and they have every right to it) of "I think the decor is ugly, its in the middle of nowhere, dues are high and the animals do nothing for me." The OP may not care about any of these things, they might love the decor and animals, like the location, and not care about the dues" or - and this is me believing people are not intending to "bash" but instead be "helpful" the OP might say "you know, those rooms are really not to my taste, I've never liked AKL, and we want to use SAB all the time, maybe this resale thing is a good idea." But whatever the OPs reaction, an VAK owner will have to come in and tell the person that posted their negative opinion that "the animals are wonderful and you obviously have no appreciation for the beauty and majesty of nature." Now, the first is an opinion about a resort, the second is an attack on a person - and then things get nasty.

People still say BWV hallways are too long or its too noisy. People still make complaints about room conditions at BCV or BWV. People still find OKW to be too quiet or too far from anything, people still think VWL has decor too dark.

 

[Dean]

Disney seems to have this figured out and is able to fold each resort into the system without destroying the system.

Personally I would not agree that DVC has successfully integrated the SSR points into the system without tilting it. Maybe it'll work out in the long run for the members that want to use the 7 month window but I feel SSR has already skewed the system and it will be worse one all the points are sold and the new buyers get a trip or two under their belt. Unfortunately the membership will likely never have the specific information to know for certain where things stand.

 

[Sammie]

For example, saying that all those extra SSR points has a negative impact on the system is not SSR bashing nor bashing the owners there, it may be bashing DVD and DVC.

or just simply factually wrong.

 

[BroganMc]

Refresh my memory, at the time BCV was built were people bemoaning that it was behind the hotel and didn't have a waterfront Boardwalk view?

Of all the DVC's, BCV seems more like an afterthought than an integral part of the design. Even VWL seems to meld into the design better.

 

[Sammie]

Refresh my memory, at the time BCV was built were people bemoaning that it was behind the hotel and didn't have a waterfront Boardwalk view?

Of all the DVC's, BCV seems more like an afterthought than an integral part of the design. Even VWL seems to meld into the design better.

I think they did, but actually it is in front of the hotel. The front is the part facing the road, the rear of the resort faces the lake.

They build it in what used to be valet parking and the tennis courts, definitely not a prime location.

 

[dianeschlicht]

I just chalk it up to what normally happens around here. The newest is always the one to take the brunt of the bashing. Everyone tries to put their priorities on each resort, so therefore, THEY have the best idea. I always feel that no resort is the absolute "best". The BWV and BCV owners love the idea of walking to 2 parks...I don't care for that, so they aren't on my "best" list. I love the quiet and remote "get away" attitude of OKW and hopefully AKV, and to a lesser degree, SSR. Even VWL seems much more remote than it actually is. It's all relative. YOu buy and stay in what appeals to you most. Any room at WDW/DVC is better than anything off site, so whatever is best for "you" is the best place.

 

[loribell]

My feeling is that when someone states that getting from point a at SSR to point b and then back to point a takes an hour, which I know is totally false that it should be pointed out that it is false.

There is a difference in stating an opinion and making false statements about a resort. The negative opinions stated as fact put fear in new owners that are not used to what goes on on this board. How many of us would like to make such a big purchase to then come and read so much negativity?

I have to agree with Diane here:

The BWV and BCV owners love the idea of walking to 2 parks...I don't care for that, so they aren't on my "best" list. I love the quiet and remote "get away" attitude of OKW and hopefully AKV, and to a lesser degree, SSR. Even VWL seems much more remote than it actually is. It's all relative. YOu buy and stay in what appeals to you most. Any room at WDW/DVC is better than anything off site, so whatever is best for "you" is the best place.

I can not imagine walking to MGM from BWV's let alone BCV's. Now that seems like a long walk. Of course I have not never done it so I do not know for sure how long it takes so I would never post that as fact. It's just not something I would do.

VWL does have dark interior and if VAK has the same type interior that AKL does then it will be very dark too. I have stayed at AKL and IMHO it was much darker than VWL, very hard to apply makeup in that room.

I also don't think that the SSR points are what have made the resorts harder to get. IMHO it is just that tourism has picked back up in a big way. I was looking through some past info on what I paid at other resorts. In 2003 we stayed a couple of days at CSR for $89/night & the HRH at Universal for $169/night. This year in the same time frame CSR is $145/night & HRH is $269 or $289/night. Resorts are filling up better everywhere, thus IMHO tourism is better all around and is the main reason that the DVC resorts are harder to get, especially for last minute reservations.

 

[Rozzie]

I just hope for the sake of AKV owners, it will not get as ugly as the SSR bashing got. People getting banned, people leaving the boards, etc. Even though I am a SSR/OKW lover, I can see positives to each and every resort. I have no problem reading someone didn't love my home, but to say and listen to some of the going back and forth on both sides, well made my stomach turn.

Yep, those anti-SSR days were a tad over the top. Who can forget the Community housing project thread?