Is this cutting the line or what!?

[Harmony]

That's how I feel about the relay - some people may think it's unnecessary, but Disney allows it so...

...so...thank goodness it's not up to other guests.

Seriously, w/o the child-swap...DH and I would think twice about going to WDW. It would mean that one of us would always be left out. Then we have to decide who is going to ride what ride and so forth. It almost just wouldn't be worth the trouble. If that were the case, then we'd wait until our toddler was older to go to WDW and I'm sure WDW doesn't want people waiting for that! lol I'm sure they want people spending their money there regardless of their kiddo's ages so it would make sense that they allow the child-swap, from a business standpoint. (and yes, I'm so very glad that they do!)

 

[Cool-Beans]

Someone is waiting in line so they are not butting.

Butting in line is the worst!!! I won't stand for butting!

 

[DisneyDadof3]

After reading this thread, some people just need to get over themselves!

 

[hockeymomoftwo]

After reading this thread, some people just need to get over themselves!

I can't agree more.

I have better things to do while at the world than be the line monitor. How about enjoying time with my family. I'm a solid believer in Karma and try not to worry about others too much.

 

[mndisfam]

Gosh, what if you have an adorable darling child of ANY age who just loves loves the Pooh ride eg. We all know how kids can get fixated/obsessed on one thing - I think it would be great to let them ride it two times pretty quickly. I bet they wouldn't even ride other stuff...

I guess I am thinking of my big strapping son when he was 3. He was fixated on Owl in Pooh (no clue why!) - I just remember feeling so stressed looking for Owl on the ride - he is kind a marginal character! If we could have ridden it twice it would have helped...

Also, in the Peter Pan ride, all he cared about was the pirates. He would have gladly skipped any other rides in MK and just ridden those two forever.

 

[sameyeyam]

I know there have been times on rides that only seat 2 people that my husband and I would have both liked to ride with our son. However, one of us always ends up sitting behind or going by ourselves. Half of the fun of going to Disney for us is watching the kids when they are little and seeing their reaction.

I had never thought of doing this and would probably try it on something like Indy Speedway or Dumbo, so both my husband and I could both experience the fun of being on a ride with him. I really don't think I would try it on a ride that had a long, narrow entrance line where I would have to get past 5,000 people just to hand son off to husband again. Nor do I think I would try it on a ride where it could accomodate 3 people in a seat. But I really wouldn't have a problem using this method.

I know some of the guidebooks have controversial advice. For instance Mouse Planet recommends putting your child on your lap when riding on the buses, but if you've ever been on any of the bus threads, you know that some people think Child Protective Services should be called if you endanger your childs life in that manner.

I say do whatever you feel is right and to heck with everyone elses's opinion!

 

[babiesX2]

Actually my biggest problem with Chuck Bubba is simply, it hardly ever works, and people hold up the line TRYING to make it work. if they ever put a halt to it I would think it would be just because n00bs trying it for the first time cause quite a bit of commotion. We don't even bother because the chances of being able to count off the exact number of people and figure out if they are riding together is next to impossible.

I've never seen anyone actually doing the Chuck Bubba Relay. I've only read about it in the UG. I know it was in there back in 1994/95. Whenever I try to picture parents actually doing the CBR, it just seems silly and clumsy. How many times does a kid need to ride it anyway? It can only work on what Dumbo, Astro Orbiter, and Aladdin's Carpets?

 

[ParrotBill]

I would not object to a handoff in the Dumbo line where it's not to hard to get the child in to the second parent... and I never begrudge the desparate toddler who needs to exit the line and return for a potty stop in a 45 minute line.

I do object to those who routinely insert a person into line to get a spot and then the rest of the group has to butt past me to catch up. It happens all too often and it's rude, especially when the group catching up does not even apologize for jostling past, simply mumbling "we're with them". I've seen far too many groups go far far into a queue. It's especially common for show queues, where one person gets in line and the rest go shopping. When you are near the back of the queue for Voyage of the Little Mermaid or Playhouse Disney, and 2 minutes before showtime 50 people show up to rejoin their groups, i call that cutting and rude!

 

[KatheeME]

Okay, technically no rules are being broken with this method. I do think it's teaching a child that he/she doesn't have to wait in line like the rest. I call it unethical, period.

 

[KatheeME]

Hulagirl, I LOVE your response!

but how about don't get in line until you are good and ready to get in line... (after you have gone to the bathroom, changed a diaper, gotten food/drink). wouldn't that solve a lot of the line cutting? Going to the bathroom takes what? 2-3 minutes? and changing a diaper? less than 5? yeah, you've lost a lot of time in line there! You're on vacation - what's the rush? Get your party together and then get in line

 

[Disneyrsh]

I think as long as both parents get to suffer then it's ok.

Wouldn't work well for us because I *delight* in talking my husband's ears off when we're all waiting in line...

 

[Mickey1122]

This is clever. It is sad that there are lots of people who will find this unacdeptable. I read a finny post about how people were getting mad at those who used Disney napkins when bringing in outside lunches. It's one of those things that is clever but some people are too 'by the book' to accept it.

 

[MyZoeJane]

The only thing that will tick me off is when ONE person is waiting in line and then a whole bunch of people (usually teenagers) will "join" them. When I look at a line, I size it up to decide if I want to wait in it or not. If I get into that line not know that 7 people are going to hop in front of me, and then end up having to wait for them, I'm gonna be ticked.

However, I have NO problem if one or two people, particularly parents with children, have to leave line and get back into their spot with the rest of their party.... AS LONG AS THEY WERE WAITING IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I guess, for me, looking at a line not knowing how many people are going to get in line in front of you is sort of false advertising... :rofl:

And as far as chucking Bubba? Hell, it's a GREAT idea! It's not making me wait any longer... so it's no skin off my teeth! I doubt I'd ever do it, as I don't think my DD (2.5) would care that much about riding twice in a row.

But I'm curious... why does the timing have to be so precise? Wouldn't it make more sense (and leave more time and room to pass off the child) if the second parent were to put enough people between him and the ride so that the ride would go once or twice before the 2nd parent got on with the child?

Oh, Lord... I can't believe I got sucked into this....

 

[satman1962]

But I'm curious... why does the timing have to be so precise? Wouldn't it make more sense (and leave more time and room to pass off the child) if the second parent were to put enough people between him and the ride so that the ride would go once or twice before the 2nd parent got on with the child?

Oh, Lord... I can't believe I got sucked into this....

Of course it is timed to a minimun of people...more is just easier like you said....

I can't believe there is soooo much controversy on the subject!

 

[alloyd1170]

I read about this technique in the Unofficial Guide to WDW. Heck, I believe it even gave estimated waiting times and how many people to let go in front of you to time it right! Weve done it with my son on the Indy cars. If you think about it too, technically its not cutting since on some rides if you dont have a pair one person rides solo anyways so the child would just be filling an otherwise empty spot (now Im not talking about rides that have single riders). Now if its more than two people, than thats cutting in my book because now I have to wait longer.

alison

 

[dpuck1998]

I love the folks that view something so trivial as "cut and dry". Its unethical?? Do you ever roll thru a stop sign? Go over the speed limit? Get off the high horse and come join us common folk.

 

[scoolover]

Sounds good to me. My definition of cutting has me waiting longer than I should fairly wait. If just the kid is riding then only one seat is taken either way. If the other parent hops in line then we are talking two cars and now it's pushing it.

 

[golden1]

In the case of the Bubba Chuck relay, you are not inconvienencing anyone, you are just maximizing the capacity of the ride. Think of it like the singles lines that they have at Epcot (great idea by the way). It is not causing anyone to wait one second longer than they would have normally.

As far as never leaving a line to use the bathroom or change a diaper - OMG that is just ridiculous! I don't understand how that would peeve anyone off. I'm sorry that I haven't trained my 2 year old to poop in his diaper before getting in a 30 minute line. A little tolerance isn't going to inconvienence you either.

 

[orljustin]

It's funny how the consensus on this seems to be that it is ok to do (and I agree), but....

The whole discussion about the same thing with characters (was it the Power Rangers) insisted that it was a TERRIBLE thing to do, and how unfair. Just to refresh, kid stands with parent in one character line, while other parent stands in another line. Kid sees char1, goes to other parent, and uses "parent #2's line time" to greet char2.

Same situation.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Actually, it's not. Any ride is going to remain open during the entire duration of park hours; Chucking Bubba isn't going to prevent anyone else from riding Dumbo.
On the other hand, any given character is out for only X minutes at a given time. Say it's twenty minutes, and each character spends one minute with each party/person. If Mom and child are the twentieth party in one line, they get to spend the allotted time with that character and the twenty-first person doesn't. Fine. But if at the same time Dad is the twentieth person in the next line, that line's twenty-first person also does not get to see that specific character because the child is effectively in two places at the same time.

Mom-and-junior ride Dumbo while dad waits in line for junior to be 'chucked' does NOT deprive any other person in the line of a ride during that cycle.
Mom-and-junior wait in one character line while dad holds junior's place in another line DOES deprive someone else in line of seeing that line's character.