Is this cutting the line or what!?

I thought this was different then some are describing.

The first parent gets in line with child. The second parent gets in line about 40 people back (not sure of the number) and when the first parent and child are done riding, they exit and go around to the line again and the first parent gives the child to the second parent still waiting in line...thus they are riding two DIFFERENT elephants.

That is how I always thought it worked. They do not trade the child at the ride/unloading area, but in the ride line.

I'm not a big fan of any form of line cutting and I have 2 little ones. We ask if anyone has to use the bathroom BEFORE getting in a line. If someone has to go to the bathroom once in the line, we probably would all leave the line, unless we're still outside like Dumbo/Peter Pan. If someone in our party is on another ride, we don't go in a line for new until we're altogether again.

Basically we enter the line TOGETHER.
 
Unfortunately some theme parks Six Flags for example, have a cutting policy and will kick guests out of the park who choose to line hop. Disney is VERY lax on this issue. So people will try every creative way jump in line and CM's don't say a word. I have observed a large group of people about the size of a high school football team, jump in line while originally one person entered the line. It does make it difficult to explain to my children why that happens but it does. We stand in line and wait. We just have this expectation at Disney. It is not worth getting mad and spoiling our vacation.

I don't see anything wrong with the original post's question as I am not going to ride with the second parent. My place in line stays the same.
 
there is nothing wrong with that. One parent is already waiting. It would be the same as if the parent is riding alone, it's not like you would take up another Dumbo or make the peopel behind you wait in line any longer. It's just one Dumbo with two people. It's not cutting.
 
I wouldn't consider handing off a child to one waiting parent cutting. I would consider it cutting, and quite rude, if one person waits in line -holding a place, basically- for multiple others in their party, which will hold up the others standing in line behind them. The practice is not unique to Disney, and it irritates me where ever it occurs. It's rude, a bad example to your kids, and reflects badly on you as a person ~ no one wants to wait in line. Just MHO.
 

If the person who is going to ride got to ride during the wait in line, I would call this cutting. If a mom took a kid to change a diaper or use the potty that is different. I just don't see how being on a ride while the others are waiting in the line wouldn't be cutting.
 
I don't see it as cutting. It's not going to make my wait any longer, the other parent was already in line anyway :confused3 .
Kimba
 
KimWDW said:
It's only cutting if it makes others wait longer. But the child doesn't take up an extra elephant, the child will ride with the adult so it doesn't make the wait longer for anyone else.

Very well said. That's what I was thinking, but couldn't articulate it. :thumbsup2

We do Dumbo first thing and have never had to wait more than 5 minutes.
 
Princess Mindy said:
why not? As long as its one child and not 30 I think its a great idea. Since there are 2 seats per car it doesn't change the wait for the people in back of you to have your child go with both parents.

Exactly! They are riding with the parent who waited on line. Never tried it but think itt is a good idea.
 
The problem with this whole "line cutting" theory is that we all have different thoughts on what cutting line is. To me, if you get in line, you have a spot in line for you and your family. You've gotten your space. To me, line cutting is getting into line when you weren't there to begin with. I would also include it when you're at school and waiting in line and your best friend who hasn't been anywhere near the line comes up and wants to stand in line with you, and you let them.

Do you consider it line cutting or inappropriate when one person from a family stands in line at a counter service food place and gets food for all six people in his family when they aren't in line with you? Why aren't they in line? Because they went and saved a table for the whole family. If you wanted to be prime and proper about it, the whole family should stand in line and order their food and then all go and find a table together. If Little Timmy and Daddy aren't in line, Mommy shouldn't be able to order them food, because she might be taking the food of the person standing behind her. But, I quite often see families not all stand in line to eat food, and it all works out just fine.

We all have different ideas about what is okay and what isn't for our families, but we just have to remember that the World is a big place and we won't all think alike. I think we set a better example for our children when we can show tolerance and respect than we can by putting them Line Cutting 101.
 
Good points..where do we draw the "line" about getting in line. If its okay for your family of 5 to join you inline why not your friends of 5 or 6 etc..I think if you create a longer line for people behind you then your cutting. If not then what is wrong with it? Thats just my opinion and proves the point of the above post that we all have different tolerances. If Disney had a rule and followed it (Like every other hot topic on DIS) then it would not be much of a discussion.
 
Lulu's Definition of Line Cutting:

When someone enters the line at some point other than the end of it.

Exception:
If two or fewer people enter the line to join their party of two or more who are waiting in the line while their party is still relatively easily accessible (ie: they do not have to duck under ropes, push people, etc.) I am willing to assume that someone needed to get a drink, use the restroom, etc. and make an exception. However, the closer we are to the end of the line, and the longer the wait was/is, the less likely I am to approve of this exception.

However, the two that joined their party could have been kibbitzing around somewhere, not legitimately in the bathroom, etc. and they could be cutting while I"m assuming the best, you know?
 
The Chuck Bubba Rely - does not seem like line cutting to me. In fact I am guilty of it. :rolleyes: It only works on some rides anyway. There is no extra wait for the people behind you. It does not cause a dely in anyway.
 
Princess Mindy said:
why not? As long as its one child and not 30 I think its a great idea. Since there are 2 seats per car it doesn't change the wait for the people in back of you to have your child go with both parents.


I completely agree. If it's only one child, it's not going to increase the wait for anyone in line behind you. We'll try it for sure in October! :banana:
 
Madi100 said:
The problem with this whole "line cutting" theory is that we all have different thoughts on what cutting line is.
I agree everyone has their own definition of cutting. I cannot stand when people are waiting in one line, and then when they see the line is open next to them they decide to jump in front of the people who were already there. I had this woman do this to me at the McDonald's in Orlando airport. I walk up to a line that had one or two people in it. When the people in front of me are done, she decides to send one of her kids to go in front of me, then when that kid was done she sends ANOTHER kid over, that's when I spoke up and said something. I told her if she wanted to be in that line she should have waited in it. She told me she had been there longer than me and the line I was in wasn't open when she got there. Like that's my problem?? I told her well had I known there would be 3 people in front of me and not one, maybe I would have chosen another line.
 
I don't see this as cutting in line, as long as it is a younger child (toddler). I do not agree with one person waiting in line and then the rest of the family cutting once they get closer. Or better yet I have seen family members walk by, see someone standing in line (that they have been apart from for the day) and cut in line with the rest of them. I totally understand if a young child has to get out of line to go to the bathroom and get back in line. But when you are talking anyone who is above the 1st grade, that's not right. By that age they should be able to hold going to the bathroom. I understand that there are certain circumstances. But I don't see why anyone should be getting out of a line except to be going the bathroom that makes it acceptable to cut back in.
 
Don't really have an opinion on this one way or the other, but if you assume the second parent wouldn't be in line at all but for the swap, I suspect this practice does cause your wait to be longer.
 
And that this is not an approved method of loading guests.

And where do we get our list of "approved guest loading methods"? Is this little piece of literature handed out with our park tickets? :sad2:

I've never seen a cast member stop a family from doing the child relay, which says to me that Disney has a tacit acceptance of the practice.

Personally, I think the baby-swappers are worse than the child-relay families. I think it's ridiculous that baby swap couples get to bring other adults with them "so they don't have to experience the attraction alone". The third adult gets to ride twice in a row because...because grown people cannot bear to go through Splash Mountain all by themselves? :confused3

Anyway, we tour in the off season, so wait times are all but irrelevant. But if you do happen to see us in the parks, and we are doing the relay, feel free to tsk tsk and feel morally superior to us.
 
mytwotinks said:
If the person who is going to ride got to ride during the wait in line, I would call this cutting. If a mom took a kid to change a diaper or use the potty that is different. I just don't see how being on a ride while the others are waiting in the line wouldn't be cutting.
It depends on whether somebody is holding the place when the diaper is being changed. If mom just took off with the child to change a diaper or whatever, I would say no way to her getting back in line. That to me would definitly be cutting. I have had to do this myself, and I have gone to the end of the line. I personally would find either situation equivalent in terms of disturbing (or not disturbing) other guests. It wouldn't matter to me whether the child/mom was riding the ride, going potty, having sissy's diaper changed, getting a drink, eating lunch or whatever. Personally, I wouldn't mind in any case, really for most rides. For example, IASW will seat 5 across. Our whole family usually can take up only one, or possibly two, rows. If just my son and I ride, we still take up one row, because they almost never put us with strangers in the row. So, if SIL needs to get Bubby a drink, I don't think it puts anybody out for me to stand in line with my son and niece while they do that.
 
thunderbird1 said:
. . . . . . . . . . . so Mom, older kid, Aunt Edna and Ralph from Sheboygan who took your family photo in front of the big ball . . . . . . . . . .

:rotfl2: :lmao: :rotfl2: :lmao:
 


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