Is this cutting the line or what!?

[LuluLovesDisney]

When you child swap at WDW, don't they give you a little colored cardboard ticket to show the loading CM?

 

[mking624]

The child swap and this are very different.

Child swap is 4 people waiting in line. 2 parents, 1 child who will not ride and 1 child who rides twice. Total number of people waiting is 4 and total number of rides riden is 4.

This swap is 3 people waiting in line. 2 parents and 1 child who only goes through the line once. Total number of people waiting is 3 and total number of rides is 4.

Since the child is bypassing all of those in line ahead of him so they can join the second parent I'd say it's wrong and cutting in line.

You actually just proved my point...and also proved that the two are very similar. You said on the child swap it involves a child riding twice. But that child at most is only going through a fast pass line...therefore bypassing all the others who have been waiting in line. In the situation mentioned by the OP, the child rides twice bypassing those who have been waiting in line...but going to someone who actually has waited in line. Not entirely different IMO.

Anyway, I'm really just playing devil's advocate here.

 

[gbanton]

I have read the tip from the OP everywhere - might have even seen it in the WDW guidebooks...

 

[slo]

I DO view it as cutting in line. AND it is one more way we teach our children how to bend (notice I said bend and not break) the rules to get what they want.

I agree with this for my 8 year old. She would learn that this is a way to bend the rules to get what she wants.

I don't agree with this for my almost 3 year old. She's not going to realize that any rules are being bent.

So, I'm a little torn on how I feel . If I were in line and saw this happening and the mother handed a little 2,3,4 year old over to the dad, it wouldn't bother me at all I think it would bother me if the child were 5 and older, because then it is starting to teach them a bit of a negative lesson. In the end, I probably wouldn't even notice it happening because I am so busy keeping my kids busy in line that I don't notice much of what's going on around me

 

[Allison]

Sounds fine to me.

 

[dpuck1998]

I agree with this for my 8 year old. She would learn that this is a way to bend the rules to get what she wants.

I don't agree with this for my almost 3 year old. She's not going to realize that any rules are being bent.

So, I'm a little torn on how I feel . If I were in line and saw this happening and the mother handed a little 2,3,4 year old over to the dad, it wouldn't bother me at all I think it would bother me if the child were 5 and older, because then it is starting to teach them a bit of a negative lesson. In the end, I probably wouldn't even notice it happening because I am so busy keeping my kids busy in line that I don't notice much of what's going on around me

So you only care depending on the age of the child? What if the 5 y/o looked like he was 7? I don't understand?

I don"t see how this is even an issue. Lets talk about something more exciting, like pool hopping. If the parent waited in line and is not affecting the people behind them by taking up another vehicle whats the problem? Does Disney have a rule that says you can't do this? I know anyone can say "yes they have a rule" but I challenge you to find it. Parent swapping isn't much different other than the other parent gets to sit in comfort instead of inline and you have to have one child that isn't big enough to ride any given ride. Actually parent swap in more disruptive to the line, since more people can use 1 swap ticket and indeed to take up more ride space. Anyway, I'm sure the ride police will flame me, but if you don't like it...don't do it.

On a side note, can I fit 3 people in a dumbo car? Can I do this with 2 kids??

Quote from Johnny Flame......."FLAME ON"

 

[satman1962]

I have read the tip from the OP everywhere - might have even seen it in the WDW guidebooks...

Yup, read it in a popular guide book...even pulled it off on our trip a few years back, however I didn't quite time it right and ended up letting the line bypass me as I waited for my wife to bring our little one back to where I was waiting....truth is I felt somewhat uncomfortable about it so that's the reason for posting....

 

[Allison]

So you only care depending on the age of the child? What if the 5 y/o looked like he was 7? I don't understand?

I do see how this is even an issue. Lets talk about something more exciting, like pool hopping. If the parent waited in line and is not affecting the people behind them by taking up another vehicle whats the problem? Does Disney have a rule that says you can't do this? I know anyone can say "yes they have a rule" but I challenge you to find it. Parent swapping isn't much different other than the other parent gets to sit in comfort instead of inline and you have to have one child that isn't big enough to ride any given ride. Actually parent swap in more disruptive to the line, since more people can use 1 swap ticket and indeed to take up more ride space. Anyway, I'm sure the ride police will flame me, but if you don't like it...don't do it.

On a side note, can I fit 3 people in a dumbo car? Can I do this with 2 kids??

Quote from Johnny Flame......."FLAME ON"

 

[thunderbird1]

Well, then we must be real rebels, because I've occasionally even gotten in line without my entire family, and had the rest join me later. Or my dh has gotten in line while I take the kiddos for a bathroom break/diaper change. Or I've gotten in line with the kids while dh goes to get a snack/beverage for the rest of us.

Seriously, I don't see Disney kiboshing the "Chuck Bubba Relay," or even stopping people from letting one parent wait in a line while the other entertains the toddler(s) somewhere else, then hands the child(ren) off at the last minute. As long as we're talking a couple of small kids and not the entire high school football team, I don't see what the big deal is. If it saves everyone else from having to wait in line with squirming, screaming kids, doesn't it greatly increase everyone's enjoyment of the park?

 

[Cmbar]

Well, then we must be real rebels, because I've occasionally even gotten in line without my entire family, and had the rest join me later. Or my dh has gotten in line while I take the kiddos for a bathroom break/diaper change. Or I've gotten in line with the kids while dh goes to get a snack/beverage for the rest of us.

If it saves everyone else from having to wait in line with squirming, screaming kids, doesn't it greatly increase everyone's enjoyment of the park?

I would like it very much if you took your squirming, screaming, smelly diaper kid out of my face while waiting in line. Heck I would wait three cars worth longer to not have that in front of me!

This is ridiculous. If you think it is cutting, don't do it. I can't imagine being upset about a small child hopping on a ride with Mom who has waited in line. Are we saying that children can only ride a ride once? And only if they are standing from the begining of the line? Kinda makes Fast Pass seem like line cutting doesn't it. I mean you are cutting all those losers who weren't smart enough to go over to the little machines and get a pass. I mean think of all those people waiting in line while you go get a drink or RIDE ANOTHER RIDE!!!!

Can someone explain to me KID Swap? I have this idea that family waits in line, Get to the front and says "kid swap" Then DAD and OLder kid ride. Then Dad gets off and MOM and Older kid ride. Is this correct? If so, when did Older kid get back in the line behind all the people and wait "the appopriately longer wait time" to ride the ride? Never done it, but may try it with a three year old next time!

 

[kaytieeldr]

Well, since The Unofficial Guide has been advocating the "Chuck Bubba Relay" for at least a dozen years (yes, I'm positive - I have the 1993 edition next to my computer) and Disney hasn't done anything to stop Guests from doing this - with one child - I don't see it as cutting in line. As stated above, the parent waiting in line would be assigned to his/her own elephant; the 'chucked' child would ride in that same elephant.
The Guide addresses the issue of the currently-riding parent not handing over the child by the time the line-waiting parent is supposed to board: Step aside until the child gets there. Voila! Nobody's held up.
I agree that it should only be done with toddlers; the cut-off age is arbitrary, but by kindergarten age, kids must realize they have to share and they can't have everything they want the instant they want it (plus, "Chucking Bubba" depends in part on the child being literally handed to the in-line parent. When the kid can't be lifted comfortably, it's definitely time to give up the procedure )

Well, then we must be real rebels, because I've occasionally even gotten in line without my entire family, and had the rest join me later. Or my dh has gotten in line while I take the kiddos for a bathroom break/diaper change. Or I've gotten in line with the kids while dh goes to get a snack/beverage for the rest of us.

Well, now, in my opinion - if there are fewer members of a party waiting in line than there are catching up with them, that's line cutting.

 

[dpuck1998]

I'll take shot at trying to explain kid swap. Goto a CM at the entrance or near the fast pass machine. You much have your small child that can not ride. I have been asked to see them and they have measured them to make sure they can't ride. They then give you a ticket, similar to a fast pass, and you get in the NORMAL line first. The ticket is good for up to 4 people. Then one person waits with the small child and the rest get in line and ride. When you get off the parent that was waiting now gets to ride while the other parent waits with the small child. But now they get to go thru the fastpass line with up to 4 people. Make sense??? Clear as mud??

 

[minkydog]

The child swap and this are very different.

Child swap is 4 people waiting in line. 2 parents, 1 child who will not ride and 1 child who rides twice. Total number of people waiting is 4 and total number of rides riden is 4.

This swap is 3 people waiting in line. 2 parents and 1 child who only goes through the line once. Total number of people waiting is 3 and total number of rides is 4.

Since the child is bypassing all of those in line ahead of him so they can join the second parent I'd say it's wrong and cutting in line.

I think this is where I failed math in HS

 

[dustysky]

 

[Magic2000]

I don't see it as cutting the line. It is very similar to the baby swap, except that both parents are actually waiting in line. It isn't making anyone in line wait any longer, so I wouldn't have a problem with it.

When my youngest DD was younger, my two older DDs and I would get in different lines to see the characters out for pictures and/or autographs. The youngest DD would go to which ever one of us was next to meet the character, DH would take her picture, and then she'd go to whoever was next. I didn't think anything of this - my 2 older DDs and I didn't get our picture taken and/or autographs, so it didn't make the other people in line wait any longer.

 

[Cor44432]

Does one really need to ride Dumbo twice

 

[KathyRN137]

I agree that it should only be done with toddlers; the cut-off age is arbitrary, but by kindergarten age, kids must realize they have to share and they can't have everything they want the instant they want it (plus, "Chucking Bubba" depends in part on the child being literally handed to the in-line parent. When the kid can't be lifted comfortably, it's definitely time to give up the procedure

Makes sense to me!

But why all the fuss? It's no skin off my nose if a child gets to ride twice. It's not like I'm going to share the Dumbo with the single parent who is waiting in line in front of me. What does it matter if he is by himself or with little Bubba? As long as the child's second ride doesn't mean that my family's wait is longer, then why should I care?

Really, I think some poeple just like to

 

[dustysky]

Does one really need to ride Dumbo twice

no kidding, my SIL comes down from MA ( or use to ) once a year to go to Disney and they just HAD to do Dumbo.... no way no how will I stand in lne for a CARNIVAL type ride. Even my 5 year old just walks by it ith out even asking to go on it.

 

[kaytieeldr]

LOL! I don't go to carnivals, but if I wanted to ride this type of attraction at Disney World, I'd probably head over to Aladdin in AdventureLand. Fine, really my favorite is Astro Orbiters, but that line is as bad as Dumbo...

 

[thunderbird1]

Can someone explain to me KID Swap? I have this idea that family waits in line, Get to the front and says "kid swap" Then DAD and OLder kid ride. Then Dad gets off and MOM and Older kid ride. Is this correct? If so, when did Older kid get back in the line behind all the people and wait "the appopriately longer wait time" to ride the ride? Never done it, but may try it with a three year old next time!

Ah, this is the old kid swap. Disney quickly figured out that toddlers are notoriously ill-mannered and tend to annoy other guests when asked to wait 45 minutes in a line for an attraction they will not be allowed to ride. So the newer version goes something like this:

Entire family goes to entrance. Mom is handed kid swap ticket and leaves with toddler while only Dad and older kid wait in line. After they ride, Dad and older kid hook up with Mom and toddler, swap, and Mom and older kid re-enter the attraction through the fastpass line (or where ever the CM's tell you to go) and ride again. Older kid only has to wait in line once.

Actually, the person who holds the magical kid swap ticket can take up to 3 people with him or her, so Mom, older kid, Aunt Edna and Ralph from Sheboygan who took your family photo in front of the big ball could all ride on one precious kid swap ticket.