Is there anyway to avoid ADR's for everything??

[Tidus]

I can't imagine a restaurant charging more $$ for people that walk-in. Those people are paying customers too. Why should they be penalized because they are not sure what park they are going to be at and what time they will be eating? People book 180 days out, but that doesn't mean that they will show up. If it wasn't for walk-ins, the restaurants would be losing good business.

 

[loveDmouse]

I don't think that everything should be done that way. I get that if you book ahead for flights and rooms, etc you get the better price and that is great and that is what we do. We don't do the major vacation planning last minute or even close. We are usually planning our trips 1 year or more out (other than flights since you can't do those so far out). I really don't think that should spill over to places to eat. I for one have a hard time planning exactly where I will be and where I will want to eat each day this far out.

NeverlandClub23-thanks for the info. We are not usually too early risers either so I will try that a few times.

 

[mouse4ever]

Sorry, I don't mean to steal this thread but I have a question along the same lines as the OP. I have one more TS meal that I don't want to have to make an ADR for because I don't know what my kids will want to do on their last day at WDW. If I can't get in anywhere for a TS can I use my TS for CS? I know it seems like a waste if I do it but I don't want to be tied to one place on our last day! Thanks!

 

[mickey mommy]

We are planning on trying Cap n Jack's at DTD,,They do NOT take ADRs. I wonder how hard it will be to get in, in a timley manner? It will be during the week and the CM I spoke to says they shouldnt be as busy during the week.

any suggestions? Should we have a back up plan with ADR for that night or just take the chance with CJ?

We had the same idea. And the same question! Hopefully someone has gone during the week in mid-August and can let us know about how long the avg wait time was. I'm thinking if we head over about 4:00, we might not have to wait so long. BUT WHO KNOWS! Maybe we should have a back up ADR over in DTD just in case.

 

[bicker]

I can't imagine a restaurant charging more $$ for people that walk-in. Those people are paying customers too. Why should they be penalized because they are not sure what park they are going to be at and what time they will be eating?

They're not being penalized. Rather, the folks who provide an early commitment would be getting a discount.

People book 180 days out, but that doesn't mean that they will show up.

Surely, if they put in place a two-tier pricing system, they'd have to require a deposit on the folks booking early, or a penalty for late cancellation.

If it wasn't for walk-ins, the restaurants would be losing good business.

That's actually not the case with many restaurants at WDW now. It is those restaurants that the OP was talking about.

I don't think that everything should be done that way.

I think many folks who want to be able to walk-up would agree with you, while many folks who plan ahead wouldn't. What really matters, though, is what is best for the business. I suspect neither suggestion (holding back more tables for walk-ups, or a two-tier pricing structure) is better for the business that what they're doing now (holding back only a few tables for walk-ups, or no tables for walk-ups).

 

[Mamu]

I did not post on this thread yesterday because it made my blood boil. I'm a room temperature again.

A Disney vacation is not cheap. Both my DH and I work very hard for our money. We visit Disney almost yearly.

I have never done the dining Plan, do make a few ADR's. Most of my restaurant visits are walk-in. Which are getting harder and harder to get. Now someone suggested maybe a extra charge for walk-ins. It's a vacation, not a regimented work place. We have enough stress in our lives without deciding where we going to dine so we can make an ADR to avoid a walk-in fee.

Isn't Disney suppose to be the "Happiest Place on Earth" not the stress yourself out making ADR then rushing around to keep them vacation.

My money is green just like everyone else. I pay full price for a meal and leave a large tip.

Who's ever billiant idea this was, just keep plucking and plucking away at the average visitor who doesn't know anything about a Disney vacation has saved up for years so they can take their family to Disney. Now you want to charge them more because they would like to sit down in a nice restaurant and they didn't make an ADR.

To me this is a sick business mind that just wants to get a little richer. The day I have to pay more for a walk-in is the day I'll eat somewhere else.

 

[bicker]

Everyone, at first, sees every perspective that goes against what they want that way, Mamu. It is important not to take any changes like this personally. This isn't "sick" -- it's an idea, and if it helps secure the futures of the future-retirees who invest in Disney better, then it is a good idea.

 

[loveDmouse]

I still don't think it is a good idea nor fair to charge extra to people who just want a little freedom in their scheduling. (It really doesn't matter because I seriously doubt Disney would ever do it anyway)
I want to have a relaxing vacation not having every minute planned out. That is why I decided NOT to go with the dinning plan. This way if I can't get into a TS I want I can find a nice little CS and don't have to worry about using credits for this and credits for that. Same with the snacking. IF I want a snack I don't want to have to keep thinking about credits all the time. IT is a really good idea for some and certainly if you are on a strict budget. Luckily we have a little breathing room.

 

[dustysky]

I did not post on this thread yesterday because it made my blood boil. I'm a room temperature again.

A Disney vacation is not cheap. Both my DH and I work very hard for our money. We visit Disney almost yearly.

I have never done the dining Plan, do make a few ADR's. Most of my restaurant visits are walk-in. Which are getting harder and harder to get. Now someone suggested maybe a extra charge for walk-ins. It's a vacation, not a regimented work place. We have enough stress in our lives without deciding where we going to dine so we can make an ADR to avoid a walk-in fee.

Isn't Disney suppose to be the "Happiest Place on Earth" not the stress yourself out making ADR then rushing around to keep them vacation.

My money is green just like everyone else. I pay full price for a meal and leave a large tip.

Who's ever billiant idea this was, just keep plucking and plucking away at the average visitor who doesn't know anything about a Disney vacation has saved up for years so they can take their family to Disney. Now you want to charge them more because they would like to sit down in a nice restaurant and they didn't make an ADR.

To me this is a sick business mind that just wants to get a little richer. The day I have to pay more for a walk-in is the day I'll eat somewhere else.

You can say that again for me. I am glad I was not the only one

 

[bicker]

I still don't think it is a good idea nor fair to charge extra to people who just want a little freedom in their scheduling.

Fair enough.

(It really doesn't matter because I seriously doubt Disney would ever do it anyway)

That's what they said about charging for valet parking at the deluxe resorts, and about adding $10 to the price of CRT. These are things that guests generally don't like, but it is evident that they both were fair and good ideas.

Just reiterating what I said earlier: I doubt that they'll surcharge for walk-ups, but I also doubt they'll change things so that walk-ups will be readily able to get a table at the popular restaurants.

 

[Mamu]

Bicker while I usually agree with most of the things you say and your idea's are usually right on target.

I would find this business practice very upsetting. I did not look to see who's idea it was, when I read all the post was supprise to find it was a suggestion on your part.

Yes Disney is a business, yes it wants to make money as much as it can. But at what cost? There are some things that do not justify the cost this is one in my book.

I believe when a restaurant fills it quota. Thats it. I don't believe some seats should be held back for walk-in, not even for a fee.

I still think it's a sick business idea.

I always though it was the federal and local government's that had a monopoly on charging fee's. The last thing I would want is my beloved Disney to charge me a fee to eat. Especially when I'm paying full price.

Bicker keep up the good work, but cross this one off. Not a good idea.

 

[bicker]

Bicker while I usually agree with most of the things you say and your idea's are usually right on target.

Thanks!

I would find this business practice very upsetting.

No question that many would find it upsetting. Many folks find a lot of normal business practices upsetting. Many concert promoters allocate a certain percentage of seats for ticket brokers, who sell premium seats at a premium price, generally at the last minute. I'm sure a lot of concert-goers hate that practice, but it is a good business practice in that industry. There are many examples of premium accommodations provided for premium prices.

Yes Disney is a business, yes it wants to make money as much as it can. But at what cost?

It always comes back to us, the general public. What do we rewards companies for? If enough people buy-into the premium offering, then, by definition, the cost is "worth it".

I believe when a restaurant fills it quota. Thats it. I don't believe some seats should be held back for walk-in, not even for a fee.

Which upsets all the folks who don't want to do lots of ADRs in advance.

I still think it's a sick business idea.

I wish you would stop using such prejudicial language. "Sick" is a very objectionable characterization to ascribe to anyone's idea. If I inadvertently used that characterization with regard to something you suggested, I'd apologize to you for having done so.

I always though it was the federal and local government's that had a monopoly on charging fee's.

Are you kidding? The government, obstentibly, is not-for-profit.