Is there a DISBoard quality forum for Yellowstone National Park?

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We’ve started planning a road trip for next year, and I’m finding my first major stop, Yellowstone, a bit daunting. I’d love a forum with the density of information, multitude of FAQs, and friendliness of this place.

Well, maybe it’s not quite as complicated as WDW. But I still have questions analogous to common questions here, such as:

  1. Which inns/lodges to stay at?
  2. Is it worth staying on site?
  3. Is it worth doing a split stay?
  4. What are the major attractions besides Old Faithful?
  5. How many days to allow? In our case, it’s towards the low end, as we have a bunch of other places out west to visit. So I’m thinking about three nights with 2 1/2 days, and the remaining half day driving to Grand Teton.
  6. Best strategy for seeing as much as possible (rope drop equivalent) in limited time?
  7. Any restaurants in the park that are musts or to be avoided?
Sound familiar?

It will be two recently retired adults, in June (most likely), able to do easy hikes (less than 4 miles, with not too much up and down).

Many thanks for either answers or pointers to answers.
 
We’ve started planning a road trip for next year, and I’m finding my first major stop, Yellowstone, a bit daunting. I’d love a forum with the density of information, multitude of FAQs, and friendliness of this place.

Well, maybe it’s not quite as complicated as WDW. But I still have questions analogous to common questions here, such as:

  1. Which inns/lodges to stay at?
  2. Is it worth staying on site?
  3. Is it worth doing a split stay?
  4. What are the major attractions besides Old Faithful?
  5. How many days to allow? In our case, it’s towards the low end, as we have a bunch of other places out west to visit. So I’m thinking about three nights with 2 1/2 days, and the remaining half day driving to Grand Teton.
  6. Best strategy for seeing as much as possible (rope drop equivalent) in limited time?
  7. Any restaurants in the park that are musts or to be avoided?
Sound familiar?

It will be two recently retired adults, in June (most likely), able to do easy hikes (less than 4 miles, with not too much up and down).

Many thanks for either answers or pointers to answers.
Yellowstone is huge. You really need more than 2 1/2 days there to see it all. Can you see some of it in that time, yes. But not nearly all. We were in Yellowstone a couple of years ago. We stayed outside the park in West Yellowstone for 4 days, traveled into the park every day (early morning is best to avoid people as much as possible) to see the north, west, and central sights. Then we moved into the park and stayed at Grant campground for 4 days to see the south and east parts of the park. Then on to Tetons for 4 days.

Most of the restaurants inside the park are the same, as they're all run by the same concessionaire. The food was good enough, but it was basically cafeteria style.

Here's a couple of place to sort out what things to see/do in Yellowstone:
https://fullsuitcase.com/yellowstone-best-things-to-do/https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/things2do.htm
 
TripAdvisor is very helpful. You will just have to weed out the people who think you have to spend 3 weeks exploring every trail and staying at every lodge. (Some of those people are hardcore!)

We stayed at Canyon Lodge. It was very nice and centrally located in YNP. YNP main roads are in a rough figure 8 formation and Canyon is near the middle. It is not cheap but none of the lodges are. I would definitely recommend staying in the park. It is huge and by the time you travel from outside the borders, you will have spent several hours in some cases.

We had a cooler that we take on our journeys. We always took every bit of food in at night (even looked for the smallest crumbs) because bears do roam free. We never saw one near our Lodge but saw a sow and her cub near Jenny Lake. The shuttle driver said there had been bison roaming around the parking lots. There are nice restaurants I’m sure but we were more interested in what we could see than spending time in a restaurant. We did eat at the food court.

Buy the nicest binoculars or spotting scope you can afford if you want to see animals like the bison and wolves. Same with camera. One evening we went to Hayden Valley to look for wildlife and saw a wolf swim across the river. The locals said there were pups and a pack but we never saw them.

I wouldn’t waste time doing a split stay. You can stop in at any of the lodges and look around or have a meal. We only stayed 2 nights as we were on a tight schedule and we barely scratched the surface.

Honestly, I would get up and out as early as possible to beat crowds just like WDW. Old Faithful is wonderful but Grand Prismatic Spring is far more beautiful than you can imagine. Be sure you get to Hayden Valley and Lamar Valley to see the bison herds and the other animals. I saw a badger near Lamar Valley.

It is truly amazing and we loved it. We also loved Grand Teton! It is also a beautiful area. We stayed in Jackson and just drove to GT.

Good luck with your plans. You won’t regret it!
 
Yellowstone is huge. You really need more than 2 1/2 days there to see it all. Can you see some of it in that time, yes. But not nearly all. We were in Yellowstone a couple of years ago. We stayed outside the park in West Yellowstone for 4 days, traveled into the park every day (early morning is best to avoid people as much as possible) to see the north, west, and central sights. Then we moved into the park and stayed at Grant campground for 4 days to see the south and east parts of the park. Then on to Tetons for 4 days.

Most of the restaurants inside the park are the same, as they're all run by the same concessionaire. The food was good enough, but it was basically cafeteria style.
I remember talking to a ranger at Yellowstone who said the most common visit to Yellowstone was a visitor who got on a tour bus in West Yellowstone, went to Old Faithful to see it erupt, and got back on the bus to West Yellowstone. Kind of sad, but I'm wondering how much more crowded it would get if more visitors stayed longer.

Also - there used to be a single entrance fee for Grand Teton and Yellowstone, but I think now they have separate fees. At $35 (for up to 7 calendar days) each car I'd think it would make more sense to pay $80 for the interagency annual pass if visiting both. The pass is good for all federal recreation sites (like the Forest Service) that charge an entrance fee. It's good for a year. I think it's also accepted for some parking fees if placed on a hang tag.

As for the restaurants, they're actually run by two different concessionaires although it's kind of hard to notice because the second concessionaire has a pretty small presence. The lodging facilities and the associated restaurants are Yellowstone National Park Lodges operated by Xanterra. Then there's Yellowstone General Stores operated by Delaware North.

Most of the best known dining in Yellowstone is Xanterra. I believe the most unique dining they have is the Roosevelt Old West Cookout, where one takes a wagon or horse ride to the dining site.
https://www.yellowstonenationalparklodges.com/dining/
There are a few restaurants operated by Delaware North. They're mostly operating the general stores, but a few of them are attached to restaurants, including Old Faithful Basin General Store, Canyon Soda Fountain, Fishing Bridge General Store, and the Lake General Store.
https://www.yellowstonevacations.com/shop/yellowstone-general-stores/in-park-dining
 

I like the National Parks Travelers Club for all things national parks related. You can find their forums at parkstamps.org. So much traveling advice!

TripAdvisor is my other resource.
 
Google "Yellowstone forums" It comes up as "Yellowstone.net/forums" Good information there. We were at Yellowstone for 7 days and didn't see it all. You drive a lot more than you think. Lots to see besides Old Faithful, that's just a blip on Yellowstone, Grand Canyon of Yellowstone, Morning Glory Pool, Mud pots, be prepared for "bear jams" or "Bison jams"
 
You’ve gotten some good advice, I’ll add my two cents. First, I would try to spend at least 4 days going through the park. It may be a pain, but I’d check a map and stay at a different place each night. I always hate wasting time to backtrack over roads I’ve already traveled on to get to a new area, but that’s just me. Although usually cheaper, I would not stay at West Yellowstone, unless it’s for just one night. YNP is so huge that staying at West Yellowstone is going to limit how much you’re able to see just because of travel time. It’s a really fun little town though and worth a stop if you want. You could actually spend an entire day there doing stuff! For what it’s worth, we stay there a lot, unless we choose to camp inside the park. I don’t know if it’s possible, but we love camping in the park, in our tent. And we do pack up and change campgrounds to different areas of the park so we aren’t backtracking every day.

Yellowstone is big, but what makes it even harder to get around the whole park quickly is traffic and the speed limit on the roads. Max is 55, but plenty of miles are slower. Plus, the farther into the summer you go, the more people there are. People at YNP can be incredibly stupid. They will stop on the road because they think they see something. This creates a huge bottle neck. There are hard core YNP visitors (most are regulars) that bring their massive scopes and set up in a few different spots near the road side. Sometimes tourists see them and stop thinking there is something to see. Many times there isn’t, the hard core people will be there all day waiting, usually for the wolves. If we can’t make it in early June, we don’t bother going until summer is over. September is a great time. Far less people and the elk start their rut, which is worth a trip just for that!

I had typed out a bunch of stuff, but had to look up the name of a favorite, and found this page: https://fullsuitcase.com/yellowstone-best-things-to-do/. I deleted everything I had written because it had at least half the things I had already written about, and provides more info about the places as well. We have gone to all the main places they write about (but not necessarily done all the hikes, or restaurants and hotels that are mentioned) and think all are worth it.

You can still see the effects from the fires of ‘88. That still gives me goosebumps, but that may be because we live here and I remember that summer/fall so well. I find it awe inspiring to look at the new growth that has taken over areas that were completely wiped out by fires. It was especially amazing to see the year after. I’ll never forget.

One more thing, when you’re driving through the park, you will see lots of little side drives off the main road. Most are pretty short, some are a few miles. All will spit you right back onto the same road you were on. I love those little drives. Most people don’t take them, so that’s always a bonus to me. :) I wish I could remember the names of any of them, but I don’t. Some took you to stunning views, some were more boring, but I never regretted any of them.

Oops! Another thing! I’m not sure what direction you’re coming and going, but if possible, try to travel the Beartooth Highway (outside the northeast entrance). You won’t regret it. It’s outside the park though and you may have to adjust your travel plans to take the pass, but I cannot imagine you would regret it. Stunning views.
 
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Tripadvisor has forums for almost any destination, and they are not driven by advertising.
 
Like Surprise2017 this is my home territory. I think the blog she posted is outstanding for suggesting all the great places to see. I would add that the restaurant in the Old Faithful Inn used to be outstanding. Its been some years since I ate there but it was really really good. My dad used to do private guided tours in Yellowstone for a company based in Cody and was a wealth of information on plant life, geology and wildlife. I wish I had some of the stuff he told me over time written down. Absolutely stay in the park-drive time back and forth to lodging outside will eat up much of your day. If you only have two nights I would plan one night in a north area and one at Lake or West Thumb for south areas. If you are planning to stay at Old Faithful and need all the comforts of home vice cool historical stuff be sure to book a room in the extentions or the snow lodge. The orginal lodge is orginal to 1907 which means shared bathrooms down the hall and no TV-but I love it any way.
 
If either of you are 62, you are entitled to purchase the America the Beautiful Senior pass. It's $80 now, but that is a lifetime pass for all the national parks in the US. If you just buy the annual pass, it is $20. I was lucky enough to buy mine several years ago when it was just $20 for a lifetime pass. I've used mine in the Everglades, Yellowstone, Acadia, Glacier, Smokey Mountains multiple times. If you are driving, that pass is good for everyone in the vehicle, so you don't need to buy two of them. We're planning on hitting Yellowstone for the winter in either 2020 or 2021. We've done that one twice and loved it. We used to live in Montana and went to Yellowstone, Glacier and Grand Tetons several times while we lived there.

The last time we were there, the restaurant at Mammoth Hot Springs was much nicer than a cafeteria. We were there for Christmas time, so it was a bit different, but we did need a reservation to dine.

The Old Faithful Snow Lodge is nice and it is modern. The lodges at Canyon were nice, too. That dining facility was more of a cafeteria. The Old Faithful Inn will remind you of WL. There are rooms there with bathrooms down the hall or some with bathrooms in the room.

You'll find a wealth of information on the official websites. If you are booking lodging in the park, you'll want to make sure it isn't booked up when you decide to go.
 
I'd think it would make more sense to pay $80 for the interagency annual pass if visiting both.
Don't know if it would apply to the OP (they mentioned they're retired), but the lifetime senior pass is also $80 and it's good forever (or until you lose it - then you have to pay again to replace it).

Or there's an annual senior pass that's $20, if that works better.
 
I was lucky enough to buy mine several years ago when it was just $20 for a lifetime pass.
$10. I remember visiting with someone who was eligible. Even after misplacing a pass it was cheap enough to just buy another one. And now they have an annual senior pass at $20 that can be traded for a lifetime pass once there are 4.

When was the last time the price increased for the Senior Pass?
The Senior Pass has been $10 since 1994.​
How much did it increase?
The lifetime Senior Pass increased from $10 to $80.​
Why $80?
The legislation states that the cost of the lifetime Senior Pass be equal to the cost of the annual America the Beautiful – The National Parks and Federal Recreational Lands Pass, which is currently $80.​
What if a senior citizen is on a fixed budget?
The legislation also establishes an annual Senior Pass for $20. That pass is valid for one year from the date of issuance. Four annual Senior Passes purchased in prior years can be traded in for a lifetime pass. Additionally, access to the majority of National Park Service sites remains free—only 118 of 417 National Park Service sites have an entrance fee.
There are a few differences though. The senior passes only allow one signature that needs to be matched up with someone in the party. The regular annual pass allows two signatures, and it can be any two people who agree to share the pass.

There's also one thing about all these annual passes - that they're only punched/marked for the month that they're purchased, and that they're valid until the end of the same month in the next year. So if one gets a pass on June 1, it's valid for 13 months - until June 30 of the next year.
 
I live 2.5 to 5 hours from Yellowstone National Park depending on which entrance you use with the exception of the South. We have done quick 2 day 1 night trips but they are exhausting and involved leaving home at 3:30-4 AM using either the NE (Cooke City/Silver Gate) Entrance or the N (Gardiner) Entrance going hard catching major sites-upper falls, lower falls, old faithful, hot spings, mud pots, ect. Spend the night at a simple hotel usually the super 8 in Gardiner (lower cost to stay there) getting to the room around 10:30-11PM and back up and into the park before 7 AM the next morning making the opposite direction on the loop and also looping onto the southern loop towards Grand Teton and back up and out the East (Cody) Entrance getting home between 1 and 2 AM with plans to just crash on Day 3 though we often had to get up and take visitors to the airport (our typical reason for these whirl wind trips) We also did this with a large cooler in the back of the Mini Van plenty of food including lots of stuff for sandwiches to save time as well as usually having at least 3-5 drivers. Usually avoided any trails that were more than a 1 mile loop.
Camping don't know if that is in your plans while tent camping is permitted if there is significant bear activity in the area they can and will ask that you do not tent camp this also included pop up campers. In that case you will end up spendin the nigh in your vehicle if something happens in the night or if authorities know ahead of time finding a place to stay.

If you can give us an idea of where you would be coming from I can give more suggestions on which general route to take with the understanding that there could be road construction and they have closed roads or had roads restricted to 1 lane at reduced speeds so you may be waiting a while. Due to the elevation in the park 90-95% of the road constuction has to be restricted to between Mid May and Mid September though sometimes they can extend as early as late April and as late as Early October; however if it is a chip sealing job those are only done between May 15 and September 15 and the tempatures have to be above a certain range for the time the chipping is being done and the 48 hours after it is finished while it sets. This includes overnight lows. On jobs that are a chip seal you will be piloted through at a speed no higher than 25 MPH until the 48 hours is up. Please be patient and if you end up getting stoped as one of the first vehicles by the flagger standing out along the side of the road most of them love to stand there and chat with you. 90% of them are college students who are working over the break as typically the college/univerity classes end spring term by the 2nd full week in May and Fall term starts back up in early September.
To go from Yellowstone to Grand Teton National Parks it is less than an hour so if you allowed a couple of hours that would give you a nice relaxing trip. We have always done Grand Teton as a loop through for a half day to a day from West Thumb though sometimes Madison or Canyon and back since we would either stay at that spot the night before and be staying there that night or would move to there in the morning before mid day and then take the loop after a quick lunch just taking our towing vehicle.
 
If either of you are 62, you are entitled to purchase the America the Beautiful Senior pass. It's $80 now, but that is a lifetime pass for all the national parks in the US. If you just buy the annual pass, it is $20. I was lucky enough to buy mine several years ago when it was just $20 for a lifetime pass. I've used mine in the Everglades, Yellowstone, Acadia, Glacier, Smokey Mountains multiple times. If you are driving, that pass is good for everyone in the vehicle, so you don't need to buy two of them. We're planning on hitting Yellowstone for the winter in either 2020 or 2021. We've done that one twice and loved it. We used to live in Montana and went to Yellowstone, Glacier and Grand Tetons several times while we lived there.

The last time we were there, the restaurant at Mammoth Hot Springs was much nicer than a cafeteria. We were there for Christmas time, so it was a bit different, but we did need a reservation to dine.

The Old Faithful Snow Lodge is nice and it is modern. The lodges at Canyon were nice, too. That dining facility was more of a cafeteria. The Old Faithful Inn will remind you of WL. There are rooms there with bathrooms down the hall or some with bathrooms in the room.

You'll find a wealth of information on the official websites. If you are booking lodging in the park, you'll want to make sure it isn't booked up when you decide to go.
There are some sit down dining rooms with table service. Some are more casual dining while a few are more upscale. The ones Delaware North runs are like diners with service at counters.
 
We were just in Yellowstone a couple weeks ago. We stayed outside the park, about 15 miles north of Gardiner and the north entrance. We were in the park every day by 8am ... took us maybe 20 minutes tops to get to the north entrance ... no lines, no waiting. We rented a small cabin through VRBO, perfect size for us. We never stopped in any of the park restaurants during our stay ... cooked breakfast & dinner in our cabin and brought lunch with us. The Old Faithful area is a zoo. You need to get there very early in the day or later on, say after 4 or 5pm. The parking at Grand Prismatic Spring is limited and folks were parking on the side of the road and walking through the parking lot to the spring and the trails associated with it. The Canyon area is also very busy although not quite like the Old Faithful area.
Be prepared for road construction ... this summer there is major construction between Norris and Mammoth ... wait times are roughly 30 minutes or more (they have signs up telling you to turn off your engine). Also major construction from Fishing Bridge eastward (on the east entrance road) with substantial wait times. Of course all of this may be completed by the time you go next year although the construction east of Fishing Bridge looked like it could take more than a summer to complete. So construction can certainly determine which roads will be easier to take (we drove over Dunraven Pass multiple times ... not a big deal for us but not everyone is comfortable with driving this road that doesn't have a whole lot of guardrails).
We did a bit of hiking so we were off the beaten path much of the time.
Grand Teton ... again we stayed in a VRBO rental south of the park ... easy access to the park though. We did eat out one evening at Signal Mountain Lodge and it was very good ... portions were excellent, service was great. Parking at the popular trailheads is crazy busy with lots of cars parked along the road (Taggert Lakes and the Jenny Lake area).
We did notice that there are some folks who consider the 45 mph speed limit as a mere suggestion and race around the parks (especially Yellowstone) as if the rangers are going to put the various "attractions" away for the night. Fortunately there are quite a number of places to pull over and let these folks go by.
IF you take any of the dirt roads in the parks, be prepared for holes, washboard surfaces, narrow roadways, and very sharp turns. The road into Slough Creek was decent though.
And be prepared to witness folks totally ignoring every park warning about wildlife or the hot springs.
 
IF so we ought to go pick on them because they are even bigger nerds then us
 
And be prepared to witness folks totally ignoring every park warning about wildlife or the hot springs.
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Those folks make the news where I live and we make fun of them trust me these are some of the most reacted to stories on the local media. We will judge those who do that though people with interesting look interesting stories we just accept and let go but if someone does something stupid including but not limited to let's put junior on the nice statue of the bison and take a photo and then the bison charges them well that will be talked about for weeks and in some cases even years later such as the dimwhitted nimscule that decide the baby bison was cold and put it in the back of their station wagon.
 





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