Is something a CM would accomodate

KEVD

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My 6 y/o son is on the autism spectrum. He gets very uncomfortable in movie theaters. We would like to try taking him on Soarin' but we won't know how it will go until we try as it does have teh feel of a movie theater. We will know once we're seated and before the ride starts whether or not he will tolerate.

So my question is... if we explain this to the CM beforehand, do you think they would be able to seat us at the end of the row close to an exit in case we have to leave before it starts? Second question, if he can't handle it and my wife or I have to leave with him, do you think the they will grant us a "rider swap" ?
 
There's not a lot of time between boarding and "flight" for him to get used to it. It's really board, buckle and start...unless someone is having major issues. If it were to come to pass where everyone was buckled in and you absolutely needed to not ride, they wouldn't make you suffer through it...but I truly doubt they'd accomedate any "extra'' time for him to adjust. It will need to be a quick yes or no decision. It's entirely different than something like ITTBAB or VOTLM where you can pretty much leave whenever. If something happens once the "flight" starts, you will either have to suffer through it or they would have to stop the entire ride.

You can usually ask to be in a certain row or spot, but you may have to wait for the next "flight" and if it's very very crowded, they could say no. I would say the rider swap won't be an issue.
 
I actually disagree somewhat with the previous poster, there is a way to get a fair amount of time to get settled in before the ride starts.

Ask to be the first in line in Row 1 for Gate A, they are the first to go inside. Explain the situation to the CM, they should have no issues accommodating this situation.

You should be able to sit down and get him buckled in, then make a decision accordingly. Remember they also do a seat belt check, they normally start at the front row; however, you may be able to ask them to start at the back row for the seatbelt check, allowing a little more time. It would be during this check that you would need to make the decision, after that the ride is considered started and no one may be on the floor until the ride is finished.

If you use this method, you should get about 3-5 minutes before you have to make a decision.
 
You would have a relatively small time in which to decide whether or not to ride.

If you have not been on the ride yourself , I would suggest asking if you can have one member of your party preview the ride before trying to get on with your son. Rider Swap is common on Soarin' because of the height requirement and nature of the ride. It might be best to fo a regular child swap first so each of you can ride. Then discuss your experience to make a decision about whether even would be possible for him to go.

There is also a post on the EPCOT FAQ thread near the top of this board that shows and describes the things about the ride.

It would also be helpful to know what about a theater makes your son uncomfortable and how he shows his discomfort. Once the show starts, it is not possible to leave, so if he is used to leaving when he is uncomfortable, you need to think about how that will affect him.

The ride is actually a movie which is being shown when you are not in traditional theater seats, but special ride seats. The movie screen is in front of you, curves a little bit to the side and also below and above you so it isn't quite the same feeling as a movie theater where the movie shows in a box in front of you. On Soarin', the whole movie will be in your field of view unless you purposely look a little over to the side, below or top.
Because there is a screen, your son will see a movie screen in front of him if you are in the first row. The other rows can see it as the people walk in, but once seated the view of the screen is blocked by the row in front of you.

The seats themselves are more like lawn chairs with very high backs than regular theater seats. You can't see the people in seats behind or in front of you because of the High backs and all the machinery.
There is about a 6 to 8 foot aisle in front of each row of seats so being in any seat, you can still get out until they are done with the seat belt check. Once your seatbelts are fastened, they lock and the CM would need to release them or you can't get out. Once they have given the all clear, the flight is taking off and can only be stopped in an emergency, with an emergency stop and evacuation.

The ride starts in total darkness, during which, the rows of seats are pulled forward and up.
Row 1 will end up suspended about 35-40 feet above ground. Row 2 is about 25-30 feet and row 3 is about 15-20 feet. When seated in rows 2 and 3, you can see the feet of the guests in rows above you.

The show simulates a ride on a hang glider, so your feet hang free and the rows of seats tilt and sway according to what is happening on screen. You can find videos of the movie on YouTube and get an idea of when the more noticeable seat movements might occur, but it will be moving a bit all the time.

The movie also includes fireworks at the end and scenes over mountains and water. Scents are pumped in as you go over certain areas ( pine scent by pine forest, orange scent over orange grove, etc.) in case your child is scent sensitive.

After the fireworks scene, there is a short period of total darkness again as the rows come back and down into their original position.

Canada and China have 360 films where the screen is around you on all sides from waist height to about 20 feet high up the wall. These are movies where you stand. The way the movies were shot gives a feeling of motion, even though nothing moves and you are standing still on the ground. Going on one of these immersive movies might be a good way to see how he reacts to a movie that is a little more sensory than the movies he may have been in before. You can easily leave either of those movies if you want just by walking out the doors opposite from where you came in.
 

I think for safety reasons, they would not be able to deviate from the order they check the rows to make sure belts are fastened. Starting with the back would also not give those guests much time to get in, get settled and belted.

It is important to let the CM know you are kind of 'iffy' so they know there is a good chance you might need to leave.
 
Many years ago we were in your situation and breifed the CMs of our similar situation, and they were great, got us on the end. Everything went fine and our DS13 Aspergers is an old pro at soaring now
 
Thanks folks!

He says we wants to go on it but he struggles with communication so he may or may not fully understand what it's like until we are actually there. I truly think that if he gave it a chance, he'd really enjoy it. Actually the less time there is between when we sit and when it starts the better... less time for him to be anxious about it.

We should know within a min or two after walking in the room, whether or not we need to leave. I'm guessing that most people want to sit in the middle so I'm thinking, if needed, we can ask the folks on the end of the row if they will swap. We could probably even work that out on the way to our seats. When we were there a few years ago I recall hoping that I'd get a spot in the middle of the row.

Fingers crossed!
 
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a lot of the rides have videos on Youtube. I don't know if Soarin does or not. Maybe that would be a way for you to see if your son would be interested in it. We've gone on it once with our older dd. But our younger has ASD, and the standby wait times have always made me rule it out for her, since she does well up until about 20 minutes (I didn't think it would interest her enough to get a fast pass, but realize to each his own)
 
Even if they CM doesn't place you at an end, you could presumably ask once you've been assigned to a row if someone would switch. That's about as clear as mud so maybe this will help.

You are told to go into Row A, B, and C (Or 123, whatever). You stand in these rows for the preshow which is shown on a TV by the door hanging where everyone can see. These spots corrolate to your seats on the actual ride...so it wouldn't be unreasonable to ask someone in your own row if they would mind switching so you could be on the end. They might not want to but it's worth a shot.



____| | <-- door to actual ride area
________Row A-- 1 2 3 4 5
TV______Row B-- 1 2 3 4 5
________Row C-- 1 2 3 4 5

Hopefully I typed that so it looks right. If you were passenger 3 and 4 in any given row, perhaps passenger 5 would be willing to move into your spot making you now passengers 4 and 5. I wouldn't try switching with the other rows though.
 
Even if they CM doesn't place you at an end, you could presumably ask once you've been assigned to a row if someone would switch. That's about as clear as mud so maybe this will help.

You are told to go into Row A, B, and C (Or 123, whatever). You stand in these rows for the preshow which is shown on a TV by the door hanging where everyone can see. These spots corrolate to your seats on the actual ride...so it wouldn't be unreasonable to ask someone in your own row if they would mind switching so you could be on the end. They might not want to but it's worth a shot.



____| | <-- door to actual ride area
________Row A-- 1 2 3 4 5
TV______Row B-- 1 2 3 4 5
________Row C-- 1 2 3 4 5

Hopefully I typed that so it looks right. If you were passenger 3 and 4 in any given row, perhaps passenger 5 would be willing to move into your spot making you now passengers 4 and 5. I wouldn't try switching with the other rows though.
Follow this link to page 2 of the EPCOT FAQs thread. There are pictures of each part of the queue, including this part and the inside of the show area.
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1671441&page=2
 
You do know that the seats "fly", so even if he is OK at first, once the rows fly into the air, he will not beable to leave with out an emergency stop to the whole ride. I think you need to go and ride it yourself and then you can decide.
 
You do know that the seats "fly", so even if he is OK at first, once the rows fly into the air, he will not beable to leave with out an emergency stop to the whole ride. I think you need to go and ride it yourself and then you can decide.

this. ++1
 
I totally agree.. only you know what your child can handle.. but I would ride it myself first to see what it all details. My 10 year old doesn't like any of the bigger rides at Disney... such as coasters etc.. but she LOVES Soarin..
 

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