Is it worth it for me? Help?

[dawz1026]

So I have a family of four that will basically stay only at The Beach Club. We come once per year every year and I am seriously looking into the buy but my questions are...

1.If I get the room at the BC for my dates can it be pulled from me by a BC owner if I buy into Copper Creek?

2. Park Hoppers?? Any discounts?

3.Table in Wonderland?? Do u get this or any food discounts?

4.Can you split stay?

5. How many points actually gets you more than one bed with a sleeper sofa? Hence 22 year old girl and 12 year old boy need own areas..

Thanks for any help...K

 

[Ben E N]

So I have a family of four that will basically stay only at The Beach Club. We come once per year every year and I am seriously looking into the buy but my questions are...

1.If I get the room at the BC for my dates can it be pulled from me by a BC owner if I buy into Copper Creek?

2. Park Hoppers?? Any discounts?

3.Table in Wonderland?? Do u get this or any food discounts?

4.Can you split stay?

5. How many points actually gets you more than one bed with a sleeper sofa? Hence 22 year old girl and 12 year old boy need own areas..

Thanks for any help...K

1. If you buy CCV looking to stay only at BCV you will end up greatly disappointed. Buy only where you want to stay to avoid that disappointment.

2. Direct buyers can buy the Florida Gold Annual Pass. Less available dates, but cheaper than the normal AP price.

3. You can buy into TiW. Direct purchasers get some discounts in some places as well.

4. Yes, but the dates have to be available.

5. Look at Poly and GFV. They both have studios with 3 sleeping surfaces. BCV does not, even in their 1 bedrooms.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

BCV studios have a bed, sleep sofa and Murphy bed. The 1BR has only a king and a sleep sofa. To get multiple real beds requires a 2BR.

 

[CarolMN]

So I have a family of four that will basically stay only at The Beach Club. We come once per year every year and I am seriously looking into the buy but my questions are...

1.If I get the room at the BC for my dates can it be pulled from me by a BC owner if I buy into Copper Creek?

Owners of the BCV can book a villa at BCV as early as 11 months prior to arrival. If you buy CCV, you cannot book BCV until 7 months (or less) prior to arrival. It is possible that there will not be any villas left for you to book at that time. However, if you do book a villa, it is yours unless you cancel it. No one can "bump" you out. Keep in mind that any DVC owner can book at BCV after the 7 month window opens, so you will have a lot of competition to book any remaining villas. BCV is very popular!

 

[crisi]

1.If I get the room at the BC for my dates can it be pulled from me by a BC owner if I buy into Copper Creek?

You don't want to do this. If you want to stay at BC you should own BC and book it at 11 months out. It is a very popular resort and the people who buy it tend to stay there and book early, leaving very few rooms for the rest of the membership that wants to stay there.

2. Park Hoppers?? Any discounts?

Only annual passes - do NOT buy for perks - they come and go. The discount on APs could disappear tomorrow. That said, the AP discount has been around about ten years now

3.Table in Wonderland?? Do u get this or any food discounts?

You can buy TIW if you own DVC. There are also a lot of 10% or 20% off deals for members at sit down restaurants currently - and currently, because those haven't been as good as they are right now for the 15 years I've owned. However - its a perk - it could disappear at any time. Do not use it as part of a purchase decision.

4.Can you split stay?

Yes

5. How many points actually gets you more than one bed with a sleeper sofa? Hence 22 year old girl and 12 year old boy need own areas..

Points vary by season and room type - Friday and Saturday nights are slightly more expensive. At BCV you will want a two bedroom - unless you want to pack the whole family into a studio - the studios are not large, only have one bathroom, and with the Murphy bed down and the sofa bed pulled out, it can be difficult to move around the room. Search up a DVC point chart. The last trip we had both my son and daughter on we stayed in a Grand Villa at the BW - they each got their own bedroom and bathroom - but that was a lot of points and BCV doesn't have Grand Villas. You can also seach up DVC floor plans to see how the rooms are laid out and what the bed situation is like.

 

[chicagodisneyguy]

I agree with the posters above. If you want to stay at BCV every trip you need to OWN BCV as your home resort. If you buy anywhere else and try to switch at 7 months I think you will be very disappointed in your success rate.

You don't say how far out you plan. Just know even if you own BCV but don't book between 11 months and 7 months you will also have little success securing a room. You need to utilize the home booking window for BCV to stay there. So if you are a family that books 3-6 months out, owning BCV (and DVC in general) probably isn't for you.

 

[jarestel]

Take note that most of the discounts and other perks will only apply if you buy directly from Disney. If you're considering a resale contract don't count on receiving much of anything in the way of perks.

 

[dawz1026]

I usually book a year out but yes..travel hockey kind of has me on hold waiting on schedules. Thanks so much for this info!

 

[crisi]

I usually book a year out but yes..travel hockey kind of has me on hold waiting on schedules. Thanks so much for this info!

With an adult child you probably know this, but in case you forgot - with a twelve year old it will get worse over the next five years. There have been points in time over the past several years where we could not get the stars to align between jobs (for us and the kids), sports, drama, camps, school schedules (can't miss much school in high school without it costing on grades - at least not at my kids' high school). Cancellation policies with DVC are a bit different, and points are use 'em or loose 'em (you can bank, but you need to be able to plan to do that). Often there is little available with DVC three months out from travel, so it isn't a good choice for the family that travels on short notice when the stars align.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

There's an added problem in the mix about the "perks," which are that you have to buy direct to get them, but to stay at BCV you really need to buy BCV points. Even in resale, BCV points are going to be fairly costly, but they're the only way to get BCV with any consistency. The direct pricing for BCV points is insane, nuts, and goes from "fairly costly" to "this may not save you much of anything versus staying on the hotel side and investing the cash wisely."

 

[Ben E N]

There's an added problem in the mix about the "perks," which are that you have to buy direct to get them, but to stay at BCV you really need to buy BCV points. Even in resale, BCV points are going to be fairly costly, but they're the only way to get BCV with any consistency. The direct pricing for BCV points is insane, nuts, and goes from "fairly costly" to "this may not save you much of anything versus staying on the hotel side and investing the cash wisely."

I agree. I personally would vote for just staying there on cash when those stars do align. Other places, such as Poly, are worth the investment because the per night cost decreases with the number of years remaining. BCV is so pricy and with so few years left that you are trading a ton of flexibility for a much smaller savings.

 

[sndral]

To stay in a Beach club 2 br. villa during the ‘cheapest’ point season for 7 nights is 278 points. David’s DVC (a DIS sponsor & point rental broker) has a really handy calculator where you can put in your dates and see the points required to stay in the various sized villas. But you don’t have to buy all of those points at once. If you buy a loaded resale contract of say 150 points you can bank and borrow for at least 3 stays while you determine whether DVC and the BC DVC specifically is a good fit for you. If it is, then buy another set of points to add on later. Also, w/ an adult daughter and a 12 year old son your family vacation patterns may change. In the not too distant future your daughter may be in a relationship and either want her partner to come along or to not vacation w/ family at all, in which case a studio (107 pt.s for 7 nights cheapest season) or 1 br. (211 pt.s for 7 nights cheapest season) would be enough.
If you have been paying for 2 deluxe rooms to accommodate your family’s space needs (as I was before I bought DVC) then DVC will pencil out faster than if you’ve been staying in 1 room at the beach club.
Regarding the Beach Club DVC - it is a small DVC resort and very popular, if you want to stay there consistently, you really must own there. Resale points cost less than buying directly from DVC, but you lose member ‘perks.’
I considered buying at the BC as I really liked staying at the YC but opted to not do so as I don’t really like where the villas are situated vis a viz. the rest of the BC/YC - I assume during your BC stays you have wandered over to the DVC villa section and are ok w/ the location/lack of notable views? I also preferred a DVC resort w/ a later end date as I felt they were a better value.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Just to provide perspective, direct pricing for BCV points is $185 per point. The expiration is 2042; you don't get "extra time!" buying direct (some buyers mistakenly think this).

Resale, I'm seeing a fairly broad range depending on contract, and the prices have been going up lately. A 50-point contract, which I'd expect to sell high and fast, sold at $170pp. 200 point contracts are sitting in the $135-150 range. I see a few smaller contracts (100-160 points) asking $140-150.

Technically, Disney don't have an open waitlist for BCV direct, although if you whined enough they'd find you the points.

 

[lovin'fl]

We have twin DDs who are freshman in college and they played travel softball for 8 years, and play ball in college too. We have done well with our DVC. We did many Aug or Dec or Jan trips around their crazy schedule. And now we can go just us adults or we can go during their breaks which actually offer more options now.

We have TIW and have gotten it for many years. Recently DVC had a 20% off many dining venues special anniversary deal and we did not need to get TIW that year. But that deal ended so we have a new, bought in Jan, TIW card. We like that it discounts bar drinks too. It is a good value if you, basically, do 2 trips on it.

Ticket deals, and buying TIW or using DVC member dining discounts, are for members who buy direct (or who were grandfathered in). So if you want use of these things, and some other perks, you need to buy the minimum direct. They did have some tickets deals (aside from AP deals). One was a 4 day at 4 parks deal that was a great price. We bought and used that last May. Then there was a buy 7 day tix for the price of 5 and didn't need to use all right away. I currently have that but won't use day 1 until Oct and then I'll use the rest in March. That deal can't be bought anymore either. But, you can see, upon occasion they will offer ticket deals.

Yes, you can do split stays. We do them often. Love them. It's like two vacays in one.

OKW, HHI, VB, AKV, BLT have sleeper chairs and sleeper sofas in the living room and VGF has a sleeper sofa and a pull down bed. That's east coast DVC. Don't know about west coast.

 

[Deb & Bill]

You'll need to know that you cannot get a rollaway with a DVC reservation, even if you meet occupancy and just need another sleeping space. You can bring your own air bed (and sheets) for one of your kids so they don't have to share.

Plus if you do have the TIW card and have a DVC membership, you cannot stack discounts. It's one or the other.

If you cannot book at least seven months out, you will probably be disappointed most of the time.

 

[dawz1026]

who does the resale? Disney?

 

[Deb & Bill]

who does the resale? Disney?

No, everything you buy from Disney is a direct sale, even older sold out resorts. You buy a resale from any company that resells DVC contracts. Like the Timeshare Store that is a sponsor of the DVC boards.

 

[Ben E N]

No, everything you buy from Disney is a direct sale, events older sold out resorts. You buy a resale from any company that resells DVC contracts. Like the Timeshare Store that is a sponsor of the DVC boards.

Well, they just broker the sale from a private seller. I bought through the timeshare store, but most of the money went to my delightful seller from Maryland or Virginia or something like that.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Any BCV point you buy from Disney is direct, and will be $185pp.

I hadn't seen the latest price jump in resale for BCV, although it fails to surprise me. BCV, at this point, is an expensive resort to buy, and anyone buying it is buying it for home resort booking. It's not the contract you now buy to "get into the system!" or "try different resorts!" or "get good value!"

 

[rg35]

You will have an impossibly hard time getting a full stay at BCV at 7 months. It is small and incredibly popular. If you want to stay there then buy there.